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Edit so its appropriate for top of page...

Now - back to topic...
I started a new game with a Dalish mage. Just finished Lothering and it occurred to me that theres something horrible about this game. I CANT STOP BEING A NICE WARDEN!!! She was rude to just about every human then I got Zev asap, and my warden suddenly stopped being nasty. I'm despairing of ever being able to play a b1tch!

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Well, on the manties things, it DOES have a different meaning than panties -- they're using it to mean lacy panties with extra fabric in front. Panties IS the term used in the US. Knickers are pants that button below the knees here, normally worn with knee socks.

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ejoslin wrote...

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Huh? I must be the weird one hereabouts. I don't particulary like porn, that's about as arousing as a NY phone book would be. I don't feel any need to peep the copulation of people akin to me. I don't feel the need for any extra gear or somesuch. A woman I love will do well enough and if there isn't any around, my imagination and memories will do the trick. I was taught human anatomy while I was 12 or so.

Fair enough, all of us always belong to some majorities and some minorities. I guess, it all comes to us being individuals. You define your environment and what you are yourself, no need to let the environment define you.


Oh, I don't like porn either, and I'm completely into monogamy.  I just think preferences that are not quite, hmmmm, mainstream?, are not as uncommon as we think.  Nor are they portrayed accurately by the media.


I find most porn boring, but I do like some of it.  

I agree about the media.  The media has a lot to answer for in its portrayal of mainstream sexuality, never mind anything else. 

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ejoslin wrote...

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Huh? I must be the weird one hereabouts. I don't particulary like porn, that's about as arousing as a NY phone book would be. I don't feel any need to peep the copulation of people akin to me. I don't feel the need for any extra gear or somesuch. A woman I love will do well enough and if there isn't any around, my imagination and memories will do the trick. I was taught human anatomy while I was 12 or so.

Fair enough, all of us always belong to some majorities and some minorities. I guess, it all comes to us being individuals. You define your environment and what you are yourself, no need to let the environment define you.


Oh, I don't like porn either, and I'm completely into monogamy.  I just think preferences that are not quite, hmmmm, mainstream?, are not as uncommon as we think.  Nor are they portrayed accurately by the media.


I have thought, it belongs to the stage where people are unsure of their identity and take role models from the media and feel inadequate if they don't copy the role models one-to-one. I grew up in an environment where it was impolite to be overly interested in fellow man's bedtime pastimes. I always take those folks who are like that with a grain of salt (no pun intended).

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ejoslin wrote...

Well, on the manties things, it DOES have a different meaning than panties -- they're using it to mean lacy panties with extra fabric in front. Panties IS the term used in the US. Knickers are actually the term for pants that button below the knees here, normally worn with knee socks.


I used to have knickers when I played football on gravel. Saved you a lot of scraping. And they're called knickers in Swedish too.

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I forgot that 'panties' was the usual word in the US. I had read that before. We do sometimes use 'pants' here (particularly for children) but that has a different meaning as well.  Your knickers probably = knickerbockers or plus fours.

What do they wear in DA? Are we meant to believe they wear those things (I won't hazard a try at a name, because I'm sure I'll pick the wrong one!) they wear when nude, or are they just for modesty? Whatever they wear, it seems to be called small clothing in fan fiction.

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Sannox wrote...

What do they wear in DA? Are we meant to believe they wear those things (I won't hazard a try at a name, because I'm sure I'll pick the wrong one!) they wear when nude, or are they just for modesty? Whatever they wear, it seems to be called small clothing in fan fiction.


Morrigan calls them unmentionables. I don't remember anyone else talking about them.

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Alistair talks about running around in his small clothes in a banter with Morrigan.

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Sannox wrote...

I forgot that 'panties' was the usual word in the US. I had read that before. We do sometimes use 'pants' here (particularly for children) but that has a different meaning as well.  Your knickers probably = knickerbockers or plus fours.

What do they wear in DA? Are we meant to believe they wear those things (I won't hazard a try at a name, because I'm sure I'll pick the wrong one!) they wear when nude, or are they just for modesty? Whatever they wear, it seems to be called small clothing in fan fiction.


well the males look like there wearing manthongs of a sort (ps I hate thongs)

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I imagine that Morrigan might not bother wearing anything!

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Sannox wrote...

I imagine that Morrigan might not bother wearing anything!


not according to her sex scene!

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I wonder, why does the clothes morph with the shapeshifters?



Other than that it would be hard to have it any other way that is.

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@ CZ Yes, but she puts on a bra for the sex scene, so she could well put on the other thing too!

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@ CZ Yes, but she puts on a bra for the sex scene, so she could well put on the other thing too!


weirdly that bra covers more of her boobage then her regular outfit.

*shrugs*

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I don't think I have ever actually heard someone using the word 'knickers.'

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Sarah1281 wrote...

I don't think I have ever actually heard someone using the word 'knickers.'


I do, regularly!

But Anders says Andraste's knickerweasels! in game Which makes me lulz, because I think of a religious icon shoving weasels in their underpants and it's lulzy.

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Briefs, drawers, knickers, panties, pants, shorts, trunks, underpants, jockey shorts, full length underpants, ask your local dealer.



Oghren talks about pants with Leliana.

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@ Sarah Well, I'm a different generation to most of you. A 'knickers' generation, obviously. I've heard it a lot, but panties - no. Manties - definitely no.



@ Soignee Yes, and it's weird that she obviously gets her bras from the same place as all the other women, no matter what race. And they are all in a modern, strapless balconette style. Just what you need under armour. A strapless bra.

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UpiH wrote...

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And we found out that one of the reasons the Alithread people find this intimidating is because they only check in on Fridays.


Makes you wonder as to whether there's a specific reason for them to do that  pointedly on Fridays...


Hey now, I made my first visit here on a non friday...and posted finally, on a non friday. But now I know not to poke my head in ON Fridays when my kids are home;)

Andddd...Zev Squee..at the gates
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And her...for a time happy ending.
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Not sure why it says travels, I went back to Orzammar:unsure:

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She had to travel back to Orzammar? And maybe the 'for a time' just refers to when he went to Antiva or whatever while you were in Amaranthine for Awakening? Or sequel baiting?

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Lady Jess wrote...

UpiH wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

And we found out that one of the reasons the Alithread people find this intimidating is because they only check in on Fridays.


Makes you wonder as to whether there's a specific reason for them to do that  pointedly on Fridays...


Hey now, I made my first visit here on a non friday...and posted finally, on a non friday. But now I know not to poke my head in ON Fridays when my kids are home;)

Andddd...Zev Squee..at the gates
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And her...for a time happy ending.
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Not sure why it says travels, I went back to Orzammar:unsure:


That's a lovely kiss picture.  I like your dwarf's freckles.

My male elf, the one I took through Awakening, got a horrible epilogue card, saying that Zevran elected to stay at the side of his love - for a time.  I can't remember which option I chose, as I was planning on going to Antiva.  I felt forced to play my elf through Awakening just so that he could get Zevran back! 

@ Sarah, yes, those 'for a time' epilogues work well with Awakening, and I bet they were set up like that in anticipation of the expansion.  But before Awakening came out, they weren't too good.

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Yeh, for all the epilogues, there's two for a time, and one forever. With Zevran, if you rejoin the grey wardens, he stays with the warden and helps train and recruit though he never officially joins. If you travel, you continue your adventures for a time. If you stay in Denerim, he elects to stay with the one he loves for a time.

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So I must have gone for Denerim with that character, then. It looks like it's definitely the worst option if you're not going to play Awakening (but fine if you are), whereas the Grey Wardens is the best (but not so good if you're going to play Awakening, maybe).

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Sarah1281 wrote...

She had to travel back to Orzammar? And maybe the 'for a time' just refers to when he went to Antiva or whatever while you were in Amaranthine for Awakening? Or sequel baiting?


I was expecting the for a time, I know returning to the Wardens avoids that particular phrase vwith him. But, I also know the Zev end slide in Awakening, so the for a time does make more sense if you're importing. Which I am, because I'm a bit obsessive, and have vthis insane urge to make sure every character has an end game save from both games "just in case" we get to import from either one in the future.

And while I'm thinking of it..do they ever say exactly what Zev's tattoo means?

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That's a lovely kiss picture.  I like your dwarf's freckles.

My male elf, the one I took through Awakening, got a horrible epilogue card, saying that Zevran elected to stay at the side of his love - for a time.  I can't remember which option I chose, as I was planning on going to Antiva.  I felt forced to play my elf through Awakening just so that he could get Zevran back! 

@ Sarah, yes, those 'for a time' epilogues work well with Awakening, and I bet they were set up like that in anticipation of the expansion.  But before Awakening came out, they weren't too good.


Thanks! My first character to romance Zev was my CEF. I was sooooooo ticked off at the awakening slide I almost screamed out loud. To this day I do not know if him and I had a big fight in Antiva, or if it was him and I vs the crows that we may or may not have taken over.