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Sresla

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Hah, let me tell you about what I did at the arboretum after midnight last week....

Or not.  That would be TMI.


I could stand to hear a little more.

Edit: Because I had to find something.

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Owls:

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My DNF is bald.  But I don't think she's ugly.   She reminds me of somebody I used to know.

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Unfortunately, she looks like a child when wearing a helmet.
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I can sing.. write a song...I wanted to be a writer for a long time, but that's the artsy stuff I can do..oh, and I played clarinet for years from 6th grade to 12th.

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Sannox wrote...

My DNF is bald.  But I don't think she's ugly.   She reminds me of somebody I used to know.

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no, she's bald, but she's pretty cute!

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Verly wrote...

I can sing.. write a song...I wanted to be a writer for a long time, but that's the artsy stuff I can do..oh, and I played clarinet for years from 6th grade to 12th.


My only talent is getting bumped in the head.

Edit: But I'm damn good at it.

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Sresla wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Hah, let me tell you about what I did at the arboretum after midnight last week....

Or not.  That would be TMI.



I could stand to hear a little more.

Many of us are interested in hearing the unbelievable arboretum story ...

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soignee wrote...
oh man you have no idea how much owl stuff I own. T-shirts, PJs, dresses... It's now My Thing and I end up being given owl stuff for birthdays etc
ETA: HOOOOT!

http://pics.livejour...oe/pic/000877sf
Also sorry Charsen run away from this thread it'll all be over soon!


bet you will have interesting dreams... best say good things in that room, :?

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Creature 1 wrote...
...Alternatively, if you think my interpretation of the story is wildly inaccurate, we can discuss the evidence.  From what you've said so far it seems you're more interested in baiting than actually talking. 


Tempting but I must decline with thanks, for the topic is kind of worn out at this stage and it could be too painful for those lurkers, who have actually experienced said horrors to see the same discussion here over and over.

I gleefully ignore that not-so-veiled insult there.

Maybe we'll hark back later, for now, let's leave it at that.

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soignee

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Charsen wrote...

soignee wrote...
oh man you have no idea how much owl stuff I own. T-shirts, PJs, dresses... It's now My Thing and I end up being given owl stuff for birthdays etc
ETA: HOOOOT!

http://pics.livejour...oe/pic/000877sf
Also sorry Charsen run away from this thread it'll all be over soon!


bet you will have interesting dreams... best say good things in that room, :?


Perhaps I should take it as a sign that the big owl keeps on falling off...

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Herr Uhl

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soignee wrote...

Charsen wrote...

soignee wrote...
oh man you have no idea how much owl stuff I own. T-shirts, PJs, dresses... It's now My Thing and I end up being given owl stuff for birthdays etc
ETA: HOOOOT!

http://pics.livejour...oe/pic/000877sf
Also sorry Charsen run away from this thread it'll all be over soon!


bet you will have interesting dreams... best say good things in that room, :?


Perhaps I should take it as a sign that the big owl keeps on falling off...


It is clearly trying to smother you in your sleep.

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I'm a cat person, but I don't have one right now.(she died last year) I do have a doggy though.

no the cat I was talking about, but one of my favorites
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Sarah1281 wrote...

@Creature 1: If you feel Zevran is a rapist than why are you a fan? Wouldn't that be kind of a turn-off in a guy to say the least?

Um, he is a murderer, you know.  Is that not a turn-off? 

I'm a fan because he's an interesting character.  If he weren't raised in such extraordinary circumstances he'd have less excuse for his behavior.  His excuse in this case is that he thinks of sex very casually, so while he pays a lot of attention to verbal consent, he's kind of tone-deaf when it comes to implied coercion and its impact on the validity of consent. 

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UpiH wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...
...Alternatively, if you think my interpretation of the story is wildly inaccurate, we can discuss the evidence.  From what you've said so far it seems you're more interested in baiting than actually talking. 


Tempting but I must decline with thanks, for the topic is kind of worn out at this stage and it could be too painful for those lurkers, who have actually experienced said horrors to see the same discussion here over and over.

I gleefully ignore that not-so-veiled insult there.

Maybe we'll hark back later, for now, let's leave it at that.

It wasn't an insult, that's my frank evaluation of your posts in this discussion.  But if you want to stop, fine with me, since I doubt continuing would be productive. 

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Creature 1 wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

@Creature 1: If you feel Zevran is a rapist than why are you a fan? Wouldn't that be kind of a turn-off in a guy to say the least?

Um, he is a murderer, you know.  Is that not a turn-off? 

I'm a fan because he's an interesting character.  If he weren't raised in such extraordinary circumstances he'd have less excuse for his behavior.  His excuse in this case is that he thinks of sex very casually, so while he pays a lot of attention to verbal consent, he's kind of tone-deaf when it comes to implied coercion and its impact on the validity of consent. 

In a setting where you can't go anywhere without a sword then Zevran killing people stand out less among the other companions than Zevran going around raping people. Even if he were an Orlesian Chevalier and that's just what Orlesian Chevaliers did I couldn't get past that while the killing has to be taken more in context.

Edit: Oh, and let's not forget that while he may enjoy killing it is also a job he was forced into and cannot quit. Any and all sex with targets was his own choice.

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I wanted to try artrage software. It's interesting, but lack of interface setting is killing me (I hopelessly need mouse scroll == zoom).

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soignee

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Very nice Mina! Very nice touch with the book print, nice little detail. I'd tie the colours in the background behind them with something, my instinct is saying an ochre-y red.



You've inspired me to work on something, not sure what. Sigrun fan art? IDK. Something fun, been drawing birds for work and my mural... No more birds! Even if they are owls.



I'm obsessed with Artrage. I seriously do all my work in it. I've upgraded to Artrage studio, a little more money but moar toys! And mousescroll=zoom for me on artrage normal, on studio I have to use the zoom function on my wacom.

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I've never heard of Artrage...I decided to download it. I have no skill, but it gives me something to mess with.

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Minaleth

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soignee wrote...
Very nice Mina! Very nice touch with the book print, nice little detail. I'd tie the colours in the background behind them with something, my instinct is saying an ochre-y red.

Thank you :wub: There should be giant bookcase behind ... with books :) I think you are very right with color choice. naked reading in library? Totally yes! :3

soignee wrote...
You've inspired me to work on something, not sure what. Sigrun fan art? IDK. Something fun, been drawing birds for work and my mural... No more birds! Even if they are owls.

Awesome! Do it! I believe I haven't seen any Sigrun fanart yet.

soignee wrote...
I'm obsessed with Artrage. I seriously do all my work in it. I've upgraded to Artrage studio, a little more money but moar toys! And mousescroll=zoom for me on artrage normal, on studio I have to use the zoom function on my wacom.

*cries* Why cannot this be standard option in every editor? I want to choose how does my freakin interface works and everything. I don't need much, just some choices. 
On the other hand surprisingly it's more intuitive than Corel Painter for me, I would probably buy it, if it was more customizable.

#29444
Sannox

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I love your picture, Mina. I think it might end up being my new favourite of yours. What are they reading?

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Verly wrote...

I've never heard of Artrage...I decided to download it. I have to skill, but it gives me something to mess with.

I recommend. The day before I showed it to my 6year old nephew and he was excited :D Me thinks it's fun to mess with colors this way. 

#29446
Verly

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that really is a beautiful picture. gah, I wish I could draw like that.

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Herr Uhl

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Minaleth wrote...

soignee wrote...
You've inspired me to work on something, not sure what. Sigrun fan art? IDK. Something fun, been drawing birds for work and my mural... No more birds! Even if they are owls.

Awesome! Do it! I believe I haven't seen any Sigrun fanart yet.

There is some, but there is a lack of it. I think Missa has about the same amount.

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Sresla wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Hah, let
me tell you about what I did at the arboretum after midnight last
week....

Or not.  That would be TMI.


I could stand
to hear a little more.


Only for you, Sresla.

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Oh yes yes, minus the bugs. <3


Awesome as this is, there are a couple of really huge old traveling pines out at Ashland (or were, before a particular storm last year).  If you're after privacy in a public place, there's nothing better.

And Mina, that drawing is wonderful.

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jenovan

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Eeee, Mina, that's gorgeous! :D

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Mina, that is amazing. Gah. I can't get over how beautiful it is.