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[Aroihkin]

Sannox wrote...

I'll look forward to your Ser Bryant story, Aro.

I've been dabbling in kmeme. Problem (a) is that a lot of the stuff there is rather good, and I've been worrying about filling somebody's prompt with my stuff when they could get something better. I've been trying to get around that by looking at some of the older unfilled prompts.

Problem ( is that I can't find an awful lot of actual kink. Most of it is vanilla. I'm not sure I can write straight sex. And

Edit: deleted Problem © as I remembered that there's usually only me here at this time of day, and I don't want it hanging about in the ether for hours, making me nervous!

A) I understand that fully, it's part of why I only got tempted into doing one when I found such an obscure character had been requested but not filled yet. Someone said they would a week ago, but no-show yet, so... plus they were going to write het. So even if they post theirs, I doubt ours will be so similar in content as to be redundant. XD

...Yeah. Agreed. For me, I'm playing up the mage/templar pale elf/dark human opposites thing. (Decided to make him an elf for this for that reason.) And Tannusen has kinks of his own, built-in from the many years, that I can draw on too. Unlike Alley he has been written and roleplayed in romance and the like, many times!

C) Fine, edited out my reply!

...Meh, this is my first PWP (Porn Without Plot / Plot, What Plot?), and why am I not surprised it's with Tannu?

I think this is me expunging some of my "I've been writing nothing but het!" annoyance out of my system. It'll probably make IO and TAF easier to deal with again, I've been starting to get edgy about it. I like both, so only doing one or the other makes me cranky. IO would have been slash to balance against TAF's het if throwing Alley into the main slot hadn't been so tempting. *cranky*

Edit 2: This would get the pagetop. Fine, fine. Have someone else's awesome screencap!

Modifié par Aroihkin, 31 mai 2010 - 10:35 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Hello there, Zevranites, fellow groupie here!  *waves* I usually reside on the ME forums, but I decided to unlurk, as I'm currently in the middle of my first DA:O playthrough. I'm running a Female DE (Selene), dual-wielding Warrior, and trying to decide on the best course for her Zev romance. So far, I've cleared Redcliffe (to get Zev ASAP), pottered about Denerim for a bit, did Alistair's and Leliana's personal quests (more on that later) and then cleared the Circle Tower (in other words, still a long way to go).

As is customary for me, I'd spoiled myself about the game before going in, just so I could plan things out a bit. I picked Zev due in no small part to lurking around this thread  And because I have an inherent liking for complicated romances. Definitely no regrets so far. As soon as he opened his mouth, I was like "ok, mister, you're ON". Yes, he lays the dodgy banter on really thick, but my girl enjoys a good laugh, and she's not shy about these things (I like to think she's had some kind of experience before). And while she's still wary of Zev's motives and not about to jump in head over heels (no tent so far), she's probably starting to think something along the lines of "grr, why does he have to be so sexy...?" And since he's not done anything to warrant suspicion so far, she might also be starting to let her guard down. Her visit to the Fade, coupled with the way he tells some of his stories (or refuses to tell them), certainly contributed to showing her that there's more to him than meets the eye.

I'm on PS3, so I have no way of precisely knowing affection status, but he says "hmm?" when I address him, then the "staring luridly" comment when I ask him stuff. I've also heard the "lovely eyes" exchange between him and Morrigan. I did avoid the "what do you fancy?" question earlier on though, despite wanting to hear his response, because it kinda felt out of place right then. Still trying to decide whether I regret it or not. After completing the Circle Tower and having to give him a gold bar due to inventory overload, I have now saved before his "I've a question, if I may" convo which leads to him asking about the future...because I'm trying to decide on my next move. I'm mainly hesitating between "I could use a friend", and telling him "you could go, if you wanted". It's basically a question of how much Selene trusts him at that point...And, I'll admit it, I kinda want to hear "is there nothing to stay for?" (that IS now, isn't it? or is it later?) Thoughts?

However, I also seem to have a massive hissy-fit in the making on the side. Basically, I hoarded all the gifts I came across, until it became crucial for me to free up my inventory. So I decided to play Grey Warden Santa and hand them out (hence the gold bar to Zev). In retrospect, a stupid idea since most of the available gifts were for...Alistair and Leliana.

Their affection bars shot up (they both got their 2nd approval bonuses), but again, no other indications, so I couldn't know the exact extent of the damage. I find Lel annoying, so I don't really care about what happens with her, but I did make sure to avoid her first romance trigger (the hair convo). As for Al, before starting the game, I didn't think much of him (due in great part to his potential treatment of non-HN females; my thanks to this thread again), but I have to admit I've warmed up to him since. In an "awww, yousocute, lemme pinch your cheeks!", completely unromantic kind of way. And I'm pretty sure I didn't have any romance convos with him. But while running around the Circle Tower, I accidentally clicked on him instead of a chest...And was unpleasantly surprised to see the rose convo pop up. Huge "...oh, I'm such an ass..." moment and reload. Even if I don't plan on romancing him, it still felt like kicking a puppy (he has a gift for puppy faces...). I'm going to get the "him or me" convo between him and Zev, aren't I? Even if I never speak to Al in camp again? Same question for Lel.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 31 mai 2010 - 11:16 .

[Sannox]

Thanks, Aro. I didn't realise you had answered when I edited my post (would have love to have read your answer). I just felt a bit awkward about asking. I'm worried about causing offence, and as kmeme is anonymouse there is no way to edit posts.  I might ask my question again, if I can think about how to word it.

Thank you very much for your answers to (a) and (! What you mentioned about ( and Tannussen having his own kinks: I'm not sure if when people just suggest a pairing (and not a kink) if they are wanting/happy with it being kinky, or if they are looking for straight sex between that pair (or three, or whatever).

I like m/m, but I think I'm going to concentrate on het, because of the pronouns (and also because of my greater life experience in that area!).

Modifié par Sannox, 31 mai 2010 - 11:04 .

[Sannox]

Welcome, Nilfasiel! 

Ejoslin is the best person to ask, but I'm not sure if she's around at the moment.   I think that 'Hmmm?' means that the romance is active and he's at 'interested'.  

I believe you do get that question about whether there's somebody to stay for, if the romance is active, and there's also an opportunity to turn on the romance then, if you haven't already (but don't take my word for it.  I'm not sure). 

I suppose that if you've turned on the romances with Alistair and Leliana,  you are going to have to deal with them at some point.   I haven't found that it's a big problem dumping them.   Their approval still goes up with later gifts and quests.  I think it does matter how you do it, though, and I don't know enough about them to say how.   I got a huge drop in approval from Alistair once when I dumped him at 'love', because I think some choices set him back to '0'.

I think that if any two romanced characters hit 71 approval, whichever one you speak to first will make you choose.  If you ignore Alistair, Zevran will make you choose.  You could get the rose conversation over with and cut off the romance before that happens.   Looking at the toolset (and again, don't take my word for it.  I don't understand the toolset).  It looks like saying that you're sorry but you're not interested will loss approval, but saying that is's a brilliant plan (with sarcasm, I assume!) will reset his approval to '0'.   Both will cut off the romance, but the 'not interested' option seems to be gentler. 

ETA:I believe Leliana has a conversation about the other romanced character earlier, so that might be another opportunity to cut off her romance.

Modifié par Sannox, 31 mai 2010 - 01:09 .

[Tellervo]

Sannox wrote...

Thanks, Aro. I didn't realise you had answered when I edited my post (would have love to have read your answer). I just felt a bit awkward about asking. I'm worried about causing offence, and as kmeme is anonymouse there is no way to edit posts.  I might ask my question again, if I can think about how to word it.

Thank you very much for your answers to (a) and (! What you mentioned about ( and Tannussen having his own kinks: I'm not sure if when people just suggest a pairing (and not a kink) if they are wanting/happy with it being kinky, or if they are looking for straight sex between that pair (or three, or whatever).

I like m/m, but I think I'm going to concentrate on het, because of the pronouns (and also because of my greater life experience in that area!).

It's a kinkmeme.  They get what they get.

[Aroihkin]

Tellervo wrote...

Sannox wrote...

Thanks, Aro. I didn't realise you had answered when I edited my post (would have love to have read your answer). I just felt a bit awkward about asking. I'm worried about causing offence, and as kmeme is anonymouse there is no way to edit posts.  I might ask my question again, if I can think about how to word it.

Thank you very much for your answers to (a) and (! What you mentioned about ( and Tannussen having his own kinks: I'm not sure if when people just suggest a pairing (and not a kink) if they are wanting/happy with it being kinky, or if they are looking for straight sex between that pair (or three, or whatever).

I like m/m, but I think I'm going to concentrate on het, because of the pronouns (and also because of my greater life experience in that area!).

It's a kinkmeme.  They get what they get.

Yeah. If they want vanilla and they get kink and don't like it, wtf are they doing posting on a kinkmeme? At the very least they could specify they want generic unfing because the pairing is rare or something.

Tannusen's kind of a freak, but he doesn't go too crazy in this.

He just has his own preferences thanks to various previous versions. Random example? The Pern version hooked up with a Harper (musician) singer, and he's been a voice guy in every version since. I don't think he cared about voices much one way or another (at least, no more than the average person) before that. Now it can get him all bothered.

Etc etc etc. Developed characters are good in porn! And porn is good for character development.



I'm too tired to make sense, haha.

Also, welcome to the thread, Nilfalasiel! I wish I could help, but I seriously have the dumb at this hour.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 31 mai 2010 - 01:39 .

[soignee]

Aro.... pst. It's a kinkmeme. PWP it up, post a link somewhere if you want an ego stroking (hurr durr stroking hurr) and that's that.

Also GDI someone go fill in my M!elf/morrigan prompt, MORRIGAN GETS NO LOVE. It is cold in her tent you know.

[Minaleth]

Since we are speaking of kinkmeme ... the prompt featuring m!mage, Zevran and lyrium has been filled, but to be honest I was sort of disappointed. I thought it would be wilder

[soignee]

soignee wrote...

Aro.... pst. It's a kinkmeme. PWP it up, post a link somewhere if you want an ego stroking (hurr durr stroking hurr) and that's that.
Also GDI someone go fill in my M!elf/morrigan prompt, MORRIGAN GETS NO LOVE. It is cold in her tent you know.

Also so I don't sound like a complete **** (perish the thought, obviously, I have a reputation to maintain) PWP is good for helping your writing, especially if you have hang ups about the steamy bits. *salutes* thanks kmeme!

As I mentioned elsewhere on the forums on the subject... A few of the 'kinks' have made me back away in horror. And made me learn what fandom words are. dubcon? Lemon? Lime? etc and so forth.

[Aroihkin]

soignee wrote...

Aro.... pst. It's a kinkmeme. PWP it up, post a link somewhere if you want an ego stroking (hurr durr stroking hurr) and that's that.
Also GDI someone go fill in my M!elf/morrigan prompt, MORRIGAN GETS NO LOVE. It is cold in her tent you know.

Dude, I just wrote almost 3k words of PWP, relax. I wasn't even the one asking if kinking up the prompts is okay. XD I'm just amused that I've probably put Tannu in too much porn over the years, but I regret nothing!



Edit: Unless your point is that I over-analyze (lol anal) my characters. In which case, yeah, but I look for character development even in my porns. :3 A few folks claim to like it when I ramble a bit about characters, else I'd have stopped inflicting it on folks by now.

soignee wrote...
Also so I don't sound like a complete **** (perish the thought, obviously, I have a reputation to maintain) PWP is good for helping your writing, especially if you have hang ups about the steamy bits. *salutes* thanks kmeme!

As I mentioned elsewhere on the forums on the subject... A few of the 'kinks' have made me back away in horror. And made me learn what fandom words are. dubcon? Lemon? Lime? etc and so forth.

This is why I have definitions for all my "warnings" for the fanfics on my site. XD They're really not that intuitive when you really look at them.

Minaleth wrote...

Since we are speaking of kinkmeme ... the prompt featuring m!mage, Zevran and lyrium has been filled, but to be honest I was sort of disappointed. I thought it would be wilder

I believe that means you have to write it! Unless it was your request.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 31 mai 2010 - 02:13 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Thanks for the welcomes! ^^

Sannox wrote...

I think that if any two romanced characters hit 71 approval, whichever one you speak to first will make you choose.  If you ignore Alistair, Zevran will make you choose.  You could get the rose conversation over with and cut off the romance before that happens.   Looking at the toolset (and again, don't take my word for it.  I don't understand the toolset).  It looks like saying that you're sorry but you're not interested will loss approval, but saying that is's a brilliant plan (with sarcasm, I assume!) will reset his approval to '0'.   Both will cut off the romance, but the 'not interested' option seems to be gentler.

 
Yeah, I tried seeing the rose convo through before reloading, just to see what my options would be. I did pick "I'm not interested, I'm sorry", because it is the gentlest option available. But it triggered his puppy face and made me reload. Honestly, my first thought at that point was: "now the poor kid's either gonna have to have his first time with Morrigan or die a virgin...all because of me!"

But I guess it's best to let him down easy, rather than having a confrontation. I'm not sure which is worse: angry Alistair or sad Alistair. And I certainly don't want to ****** Zev off...

As for Lel, as far as I know, there's a second romance trigger after her personal mission which is also easily avoidable, so she might be easier to neutralize than Al.

Note to self for future playthroughs: gifts are evil!

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 31 mai 2010 - 02:25 .

[Minaleth]

Aroihkin wrote...

Minaleth wrote...
Since we are speaking of kinkmeme ... the prompt featuring m!mage, Zevran and lyrium has been filled, but to be honest I was sort of disappointed. I thought it would be wilder

I believe that means you have to write it! Unless it was your request.

We came up with this prompt while discussing someones status change here, and thought it would be good for lulz and maybe hot as well, I assume one of discussing people posted the prompt. So yeah, it's actually partly mine. I also wouldn't want to entertain poor readers with my not native english, but on the other hand by now I might know much more words suitable for PWP in english than in my native language, lol

[soignee]

Aroihkin wrote...

ORLY
WELL
I COUNTER WITH



...god i love this dog so much

[ejoslin]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Thanks for the welcomes! ^^

Sannox wrote...

I think that if any two romanced characters hit 71 approval, whichever one you speak to first will make you choose.  If you ignore Alistair, Zevran will make you choose.  You could get the rose conversation over with and cut off the romance before that happens.   Looking at the toolset (and again, don't take my word for it.  I don't understand the toolset).  It looks like saying that you're sorry but you're not interested will loss approval, but saying that is's a brilliant plan (with sarcasm, I assume!) will reset his approval to '0'.   Both will cut off the romance, but the 'not interested' option seems to be gentler.

 
Yeah, I tried seeing the rose convo through before reloading, just to see what my options would be. I did pick "I'm not interested, I'm sorry", because it is the gentlest option available. But it triggered his puppy face and made me reload. Honestly, my first thought at that point was: "now the poor kid's either gonna have to have his first time with Morrigan or die a virgin...all because of me!"

But I guess it's best to let him down easy, rather than having a confrontation. I'm not sure which is worse: angry Alistair or sad Alistair. And I certainly don't want to ****** Zev off...

As for Lel, as far as I know, there's a second romance trigger after her personal mission which is also easily avoidable, so she might be easier to neutralize than Al.

Note to self for future playthroughs: gifts are evil!

I actually like the jealousy conversations.  Zevran's reaction when you pick him...  yeh.  For minimal approval loss, have Zevran force the choice, not Alistair (if choose Zevran, that is).

Alistair is actually easy to start; gifts don't start it though.  However, unlike Zevran, he doesn't confirm you meant what he thinks you mean, so it's easy to find yourself being given the rose.  I like Alistair's romance, though, so I often play it through before getting Zevran's approval high enough to force the confrontation.  

Edit: You can actually gain approval breaking up through the confrontation.  But yes, Ali does look so sad   But his are not the saddest in the game.  Gah, I cannot get over how much attention the writers put into the breakups.

Modifié par ejoslin, 31 mai 2010 - 02:35 .

[ejoslin]

soignee wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

ORLY
WELL
I COUNTER WITH



...god i love this dog so much

I see your awesome dog and cat and bring up CZ & Charsen's

Just because!

[Minaleth]

XD Omg, that lamppost ... I always have to lol.

Modifié par Minaleth, 31 mai 2010 - 02:42 .

[jenovan]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Hello there, Zevranites, fellow groupie here!  *waves* I usually reside on the ME forums, but I decided to unlurk, as I'm currently in the middle of my first DA:O playthrough. I'm running a Female DE (Selene), dual-wielding Warrior, and trying to decide on the best course for her Zev romance. So far, I've cleared Redcliffe (to get Zev ASAP), pottered about Denerim for a bit, did Alistair's and Leliana's personal quests (more on that later) and then cleared the Circle Tower (in other words, still a long way to go).

As is customary for me, I'd spoiled myself about the game before going in, just so I could plan things out a bit. I picked Zev due in no small part to lurking around this thread  And because I have an inherent liking for complicated romances. Definitely no regrets so far. As soon as he opened his mouth, I was like "ok, mister, you're ON". Yes, he lays the dodgy banter on really thick, but my girl enjoys a good laugh, and she's not shy about these things (I like to think she's had some kind of experience before). And while she's still wary of Zev's motives and not about to jump in head over heels (no tent so far), she's probably starting to think something along the lines of "grr, why does he have to be so sexy...?" And since he's not done anything to warrant suspicion so far, she might also be starting to let her guard down. Her visit to the Fade, coupled with the way he tells some of his stories (or refuses to tell them), certainly contributed to showing her that there's more to him than meets the eye.

I'm on PS3, so I have no way of precisely knowing affection status, but he says "hmm?" when I address him, then the "staring luridly" comment when I ask him stuff. I've also heard the "lovely eyes" exchange between him and Morrigan. I did avoid the "what do you fancy?" question earlier on though, despite wanting to hear his response, because it kinda felt out of place right then. Still trying to decide whether I regret it or not. After completing the Circle Tower and having to give him a gold bar due to inventory overload, I have now saved before his "I've a question, if I may" convo which leads to him asking about the future...because I'm trying to decide on my next move. I'm mainly hesitating between "I could use a friend", and telling him "you could go, if you wanted". It's basically a question of how much Selene trusts him at that point...And, I'll admit it, I kinda want to hear "is there nothing to stay for?" (that IS now, isn't it? or is it later?) Thoughts?

Welcome to the thread!  (Or, well, welcome to posting on the thread! 

You're right, you're about to (possibly) hear the "Is there no one I might say for?" in that convo.  It sounds like it might ultimately come down to how you RP your DE, but (as I'm sure you've read around here  even if you choose the "You could go", which gets less approval, it's super easy to get Zev's approval up, even without gifts.  Some of the less positive convo choices let you learn a lot about him (and even if you already know these things, hearing him say them... ).

I picked the "you could go, if you wanted" on my first playthrough, unaware of what the reply would be... my CE just wanted to give him an out.  I found the "no one I might stay for" reply shocking, at that early point in their relationship, and a very nice surprise indeed.   So I'm a bit biased towards that choice...   I suppose if you're playing the game out with the spoilers  fully in mind, you could look at this convo from the point of view of your DE -- does she want friendship for sure, or would she expect Zev to leave?  Oooor, you could plan on what she might learn from the conversation... because learning that Zevran wants to stay is a powerful thing at that point (IMO).

My pre-coffee 2 cents.

[Sannox]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Thanks for the welcomes! ^^

Sannox wrote...

I think that if any two romanced characters hit 71 approval, whichever one you speak to first will make you choose.  If you ignore Alistair, Zevran will make you choose.  You could get the rose conversation over with and cut off the romance before that happens.   Looking at the toolset (and again, don't take my word for it.  I don't understand the toolset).  It looks like saying that you're sorry but you're not interested will loss approval, but saying that is's a brilliant plan (with sarcasm, I assume!) will reset his approval to '0'.   Both will cut off the romance, but the 'not interested' option seems to be gentler.

 
Yeah, I tried seeing the rose convo through before reloading, just to see what my options would be. I did pick "I'm not interested, I'm sorry", because it is the gentlest option available. But it triggered his puppy face and made me reload. Honestly, my first thought at that point was: "now the poor kid's either gonna have to have his first time with Morrigan or die a virgin...all because of me!"

But I guess it's best to let him down easy, rather than having a confrontation. I'm not sure which is worse: angry Alistair or sad Alistair. And I certainly don't want to ****** Zev off...

As for Lel, as far as I know, there's a second romance trigger after her personal mission which is also easily avoidable, so she might be easier to neutralize than Al.

Note to self for future playthroughs: gifts are evil!

First time around, my character did sleep with Alistair before she dumped him.  And he seemed to enjoy the dark ritual just fine, from what I could see :happy:.


But, curses on the game for getting me emotionally involved, I/my character felt guilty afterward dumping him, which affected a choice later in the game. 

Yes, the later romance trigger for Lel is easy to spot - at least for my female character it was something to do with asking her if she was interested in women. 

I haven't tried it, but if the gifts can be bought and sold cheaply, maybe it's better to sell them to Bodahn and buy them back when you're about to give them.  I might try that next time. 

[Sannox]

I was me asking the newbie-type questions about kmeme.  Thanks, Tellervo.  (Why do I never notice my atrocious grammar and spelling until somebody else quotes my posts?  *cringe*).  I think the whole idea of kmeme is great, and I've had a lot of fun reading the stuff there, but participating makes me nervous.  

soignee wrote...

Also so I don't sound like a complete **** (perish the thought, obviously, I have a reputation to maintain) PWP is good for helping your writing, especially if you have hang ups about the steamy bits. *salutes* thanks kmeme!

As I mentioned elsewhere on the forums on the subject... A few of the 'kinks' have made me back away in horror. And made me learn what fandom words are. dubcon? Lemon? Lime? etc and so forth.

You see, I don't seem to be backing away in horror from anything there.  Which makes me worry that my kink threshold is a bit different to other people's.  I have managed to find some pretty kinky stuff though.

Non-con, I understand.  Nice and simple and a common kinky fantasy.   Dub-con - I should find out what exactly it is.  Obviously somewhere between con and non-con.   Would 'being forced but aroused against their will' be non-con or dub-con?  I'd say non-con, but I'm not sure.  Lemon and lime, I don't know.   I used to be active on the fetish scene many years ago, so I'm familiar with real life kinky terms like sounding, cupping, etc, but some of the ones used in fiction are new to me. 

[Nilfalasiel]

jenovan wrote...

Welcome to the thread!  (Or, well, welcome to posting on the thread! 

You're right, you're about to (possibly) hear the "Is there no one I might say for?" in that convo.  It sounds like it might ultimately come down to how you RP your DE, but (as I'm sure you've read around here  even if you choose the "You could go", which gets less approval, it's super easy to get Zev's approval up, even without gifts.  Some of the less positive convo choices let you learn a lot about him (and even if you already know these things, hearing him say them... ).

I picked the "you could go, if you wanted" on my first playthrough, unaware of what the reply would be... my CE just wanted to give him an out.  I found the "no one I might stay for" reply shocking, at that early point in their relationship, and a very nice surprise indeed.   So I'm a bit biased towards that choice...   I suppose if you're playing the game out with the spoilers  fully in mind, you could look at this convo from the point of view of your DE -- does she want friendship for sure, or would she expect Zev to leave?  Oooor, you could plan on what she might learn from the conversation... because learning that Zevran wants to stay is a powerful thing at that point (IMO).

Thanks!

Yeah, I'm trying to figure out the RP perspective. I see her as not being inherently judgmental or prejudiced about things (she doesn't share the automatic Dalish mistrust towards humans, for example), but in Zev's case, he DID try to kill her and later admit to using his charms as a weapon, so, while she's definitely attracted to him, she's still not quite sure what's going on. She's not coy, so she'll retaliate to banter anytime, but she'll need more hints before moving past that. She's had a glimpse of something darker and more serious beneath the surface (Fade nightmare, refusing to tell her about his previous mission), so hearing him say that he wants to stay is probably the best way to go at this point. It'll intrigue her even more. The more I think about it, the more "I could use a friend" sounds odd, actually.
 
@ Sannox: O.o Kinkeh! Guess Al got some really good practice before the ritual!
 
@ ejoslin: Yeah, I suspected the gifts didn’t start it, but just pushed the whole thing over the edge. Lel has convo triggers, so Al must have them too. It’s just that I can’t figure out what the trigger was. I remember avoiding very blatant stuff like “My home is with the Grey Wardens. With you”, so it must’ve been something else. Is it after his personal quest? Or earlier?
 
The Al romance does seem very sweet…but for anyone who's not HN, it's kind of a lose-lose-lose (yes, 3) situation. If you prefer Zev, it’s just as bad dumping Al before and after the sex; the former is either leaving him to have his first time with Morrigan or to die a virgin, the latter is either "hump him and dump him" or "jeez, you were terrible in bed". And, if you do want to stick with Al, the third lose is the Landsmeet.
 
As for thought being put into breakups, I think it’s a BioWare trait in general. Some of the breakups in Mass Effect, while not quite as elaborate, are completely gut-wrenching.

[soignee]

Sannox wrote...


You see, I don't seem to be backing away in horror from anything there.  Which makes me worry that my kink threshold is a bit different to other people's.  I have managed to find some pretty kinky stuff though.

Non-con, I understand.  Nice and simple and a common kinky fantasy.   Dub-con - I should find out what exactly it is.  Obviously somewhere between con and non-con.   Would 'being forced but aroused against their will' be non-con or dub-con?  I'd say non-con, but I'm not sure.  Lemon and lime, I don't know.   I used to be active on the fetish scene many years ago, so I'm familiar with real life kinky terms like sounding, cupping, etc, but some of the ones used in fiction are new to me. 

I'm firmly in the "no means no kthnx" bracket and there was a rape story I read there that -I am aware I shouldn't have read, but I'm a human and the OH LOOK BIG RED BUTTON WUT IT DO mentality is alive and well- pretty much f*cked over my day at the time and I really should not have tripped over it.

*shrug* Not My Kink. I'm not really looking at it now, it kind of soured my experiences. And I don't really contribute to the writing much anymore, considering I: 1) write it in DDW and 2) not enough free time.

Dub con means "dubious" consent. Lemon comes from manga I do believe, and just means sex. Lime means foolin' around and no 4th base.

[ejoslin]

A lot of Alistair's conversations have romance starter lines. As simple as saying to him, "Just try that line with me!" Boom, puppy eyes. Interestingly, the line you quote is not a romance starter line, though you do get a really nice response if the romance is active.



I do agree that Alistair's romance is very much a tragedy. That's part of the reason I like it so much. The only time I don't pursue it at all is when playing a HNF -- something about the purely political marriage appeals to me. However, you actually can gain approval if you break up with him after having sex with him -- he at that point is realizing that thing won't be so simple, and while he's very sad, it's the Warden who's making the tough decision.



I really do need to try Mass Effect.

[SurrealSadi]

ejoslin wrote...

A lot of Alistair's conversations have romance starter lines. As simple as saying to him, "Just try that line with me!" Boom, puppy eyes. Interestingly, the line you quote is not a romance starter line, though you do get a really nice response if the romance is active.

I do agree that Alistair's romance is very much a tragedy. That's part of the reason I like it so much. The only time I don't pursue it at all is when playing a HNF -- something about the purely political marriage appeals to me. However, you actually can gain approval if you break up with him after having sex with him -- he at that point is realizing that thing won't be so simple, and while he's very sad, it's the Warden who's making the tough decision.

I really do need to try Mass Effect.

Yeah, my f!Amell somehow ended up in a relationship, albeit briefly, with Al. She did the nice thing and slept with him, then dumped his arse for Zev. She had a flashback to poor Cullen, and, well... She felt bad for Al. Got approval for the breakup.

She was also Ninja'd by Leliana. She flat out turned the crazy french girl down. That doesn't mean the annoying French girl isn't playing archer for the party though...

[Charsen]

soignee wrote...
As I mentioned elsewhere on the forums on the subject... A few of the 'kinks' have made me back away in horror.

yeah... the concept of calling certain things "kink" in fanfic annoys me since apparently my entire sexuality has been lumped into being "kinky", aka weird, unusual -- slippery slope here to other words that i'd rather not rage over so early in the morning. seriously soignee, dwarfy mama of my internet babbys, let's lazy-rage over this with yappy recycling naz! dog sometime. =b

[Nilfalasiel]

ejoslin wrote...

A lot of Alistair's conversations have romance starter lines. As simple as saying to him, "Just try that line with me!" Boom, puppy eyes. Interestingly, the line you quote is not a romance starter line, though you do get a really nice response if the romance is active.

Gah! Ninja romance is ninja.  I'll try to be more careful on my next playthrough. There were a few responses where I thought "hmm...what if he misinterprets that...? eh, I'm probably just overthinking". But I guess not!

I do agree that Alistair's romance is very much a tragedy. That's part of the reason I like it so much. The only time I don't pursue it at all is when playing a HNF -- something about the purely political marriage appeals to me. However, you actually can gain approval if you break up with him after having sex with him -- he at that point is realizing that thing won't be so simple, and while he's very sad, it's the Warden who's making the tough decision.

Hmm, fair enough. It's just that it strikes me as inconsiderate to him to act first and think later in this context. It's not like the GW doesn't know what's in store for him, and even though he's impulsive, she should know better. Dunno if a night of fun is worth all the subsequent heartache for him.

I really do need to try Mass Effect.

It's a great series, do try. Coming from DA:O, you might be a little spoiled in the interaction department. There's distinctly less of it, but it's still very much worthwhile, at least IMO. The romances in ME1 are well-constructed, but the possible romantic interests are kind of bland. In ME2, the romance construction is a little shoddy (usually wrapped up in about 3-4 convos), but most of the available romantic interests are great. If you like both Alistair and Zevran, you will probably like Garrus. Personality-wise, at least, he's got some traits from both: Alistair's snark, awkwardness and humorous side, and Zevran's slightly dangerous, darker side with some buried emotional trauma. The only catch is that he's an alien: not everyone's cup of tea, although his personality can win you over in spite of that.

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