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Aroihkin wrote...

I'm of the opinion that "They raped me, but now I love them!" stuff is just bad writing, especially in fanfic. But fanfic is the land of a lot of wtf stuff, like using water as lube. When it totally breaks physics or the reasonable limits of the human psyche (without being explained very well), it's at the point of bad writing IMO. It's like how one generally shouldn't write detailed sex without at least researching how it really works, if one is a virgin.

I was talking purely about the kinkmeme stuff, rather than fanfiction in general.  It's purely for fun there, and purely meant just to be a turn on, isn't it?

edited: So I've edited this post, which ended up being less about writing for kmeme and more about my personal life!

Oh that's just typical!  A pagetopper with a post that I was thinking 'I bet I wouldn't be posting this if I hadn't had a drink!'   Now what kind of picture can I possibly put with this?

Oh, I know.   Age play ... just to make my point ;):
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Modifié par Sannox, 01 juin 2010 - 05:42 .


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Minaleth wrote...

It's more brush than pen, but it's definitely worth a try. 
And you art is gorgeous! That Missa's approval stamp was hilarious and beauuuutiful :3 I am so looking forward for more!


I just looked them up and they're quite affordable. I think I'm going to order one and some refills soon. Thanks for the tip!

And in that case, you'll be happy to know (I hope) that you're involved in what I'm currently working on. =P (Now the pressure is on to make it look good! XD)

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Minaleth wrote...

Sorry to interrupt serious discussions but I have to share my line art (dome with super epic awesome Pentel brush pen!!) before I destroy it completely with some coloring experiment. Clickie to enlarge...

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I've changed Zevran's expression to something less enthusiastic than it originally was.


That's amazing...:wub:

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OK so, lolfanfic question for those that read Dead Duster Walking.

14000 words for one chapter is too much, but if I cut it down to two parts the first half is basically:

*Tapsters/Lord Helmi (who is a cool dude and offers interesting insights about casteless/caste relations)
*Lina being a crazy b*tch
*Zevran and Missa are stunted emotional idiots (again)
*Lady Dace is a nasty piece of work
*LOL DEEP ROADS
*Alistair's a lulzy idiot
*Assassination attempt


The second half is much more punchy and fun and violent, and has more of a pay off, and I did it to balance out the pace of the first. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- WUT I DO WUT

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soignee wrote...

OK so, lolfanfic question for those that read Dead Duster Walking.

14000 words for one chapter is too much, but if I cut it down to two parts the first half is basically:

*Tapsters/Lord Helmi (who is a cool dude and offers interesting insights about casteless/caste relations)
*Lina being a crazy b*tch
*Zevran and Missa are stunted emotional idiots (again)
*Lady Dace is a nasty piece of work
*LOL DEEP ROADS
*Alistair's a lulzy idiot
*Assassination attempt


The second half is much more punchy and fun and violent, and has more of a pay off, and I did it to balance out the pace of the first. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF- WUT I DO WUT


Yay, this looks like 19 and 20 are soon?  It really doesn't matter if you break it down into two to me; I'll read them both at the same time.

Edit: In seriousness, you should break it down into two chapters, because 14000 words IS a lot.  It's ok if your resolution is in the second chapter.

second edit: 

Minaleth wrote...

Sorry to interrupt serious discussions but I have to share my line art (dome with super epic awesome Pentel brush pen!!) before I destroy it completely with some coloring experiment. Clickie to enlarge...

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I've changed Zevran's expression to something less enthusiastic than it originally was.


This is beautiful.

Modifié par ejoslin, 31 mai 2010 - 11:52 .


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If you break it into two chapters and have both done then you can make sure to have a quicker update while you write chapter 21.

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I think it would just seem like a treat to get two chapters at once!

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Hm, speaking of kinkmeme and porn of dubious quality...

This man--

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--finally just got laid. I even gave it a witty title, because it made me chuckle. XD

"The Chant of Light on Hard Mode"

Also is my first post on AO3, and it links to the kmeme prompt/reply. Hopefully I got the last name for an elven mage correct. Wiki said Surana.

Contains no Zevran, sadly. But none of the prompts for him have really caught my eye yet. :/ I clearly need to browse through again, now that Tannusen has slipped out of his cage. I may have to use a naked Zevran as bait to get him back in there.

Erm, also, posting porn makes me nervous. So... DISTRACTION BOWIE!

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Always there when I need him, Bowie is. :wub:

Modifié par Aroihkin, 31 mai 2010 - 11:57 .


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Sarah1281 wrote...

If you break it into two chapters and have both done then you can make sure to have a quicker update while you write chapter 21.


I like the way you think. **** it, publishing chapter 19 noaw.

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Aroihkin wrote...

Hm, speaking of kinkmeme and porn of dubious quality...

This man--

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--finally just got laid. I even gave it a witty title, because it made me chuckle. XD

"The Chant of Light on Hard Mode"

Also is my first post on AO3, and it links to the kmeme prompt/reply. Hopefully I got the last name for an elven mage correct. Wiki said Surana.

Contains no Zevran, sadly. But none of the prompts for him have really caught my eye yet. :/ I clearly need to browse through again, now that Tannusen has slipped out of his cage. I may have to use a naked Zevran as bait to get him back in there.

Erm, also, posting porn makes me nervous. So... DISTRACTION BOWIE!

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Always there when I need him, Bowie is. :wub:


Oh why post it now, when I have to go?  I'll read it in the morning.   Something to look forward to.

Most of the Zevran prompts haven't inspired me either.  I don't know why that is.

I won't be posting any links to my porn!  Especially as I filled ... oh, you really don't want to know!   I have had a couple of lovely fills in return though, so I'm going to keep going back.   Just need to work out what to do about warnings, etc.

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Chapter 19 update, finally.

Here: http://www.fanfictio...t/s/5771314/19/

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soignee wrote...

Chapter 19 update, finally.

Here: http://www.fanfictio...t/s/5771314/19/


YAY!

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Aroihkin

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Sannox wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Hm, speaking of kinkmeme and porn of dubious quality...

This man--

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--finally just got laid. I even gave it a witty title, because it made me chuckle. XD

"The Chant of Light on Hard Mode"

Also is my first post on AO3, and it links to the kmeme prompt/reply. Hopefully I got the last name for an elven mage correct. Wiki said Surana.

Contains no Zevran, sadly. But none of the prompts for him have really caught my eye yet. :/ I clearly need to browse through again, now that Tannusen has slipped out of his cage. I may have to use a naked Zevran as bait to get him back in there.

Erm, also, posting porn makes me nervous. So... DISTRACTION BOWIE!

Image IPB
Always there when I need him, Bowie is. :wub:


Oh why post it now, when I have to go? I'll read it in the morning. Something to look forward to.

Most of the Zevran prompts haven't inspired me either. I don't know why that is.

I won't be posting any links to my porn! Especially as I filled ... oh, you really don't want to know! I have had a couple of lovely fills in return though, so I'm going to keep going back. Just need to work out what to do about warnings, etc.

I've never even put in a request on there. I think I'm possibly weird. XD



Edit: Belatedly, splitting that chapter is what I'd have done, having one ready to go on-hand is always nice too. Takes some of the pressure off. :3

Modifié par Aroihkin, 01 juin 2010 - 12:16 .


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*Edit*

To slow...
Off to read Chapter 19...:o

Done, it was very good as always.

Modifié par MorGothic, 01 juin 2010 - 12:31 .


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Minaleth wrote...
Sorry to interrupt serious discussions but I have to share my line art (dome with super epic awesome Pentel brush pen!!) before I destroy it completely with some coloring experiment. Clickie to enlarge...

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I've changed Zevran's expression to something less enthusiastic than it originally was.




this is really beautiful Mina. their faces seem very classical art in style. i tried to figure out what artist this reminds me of, but it's been a while since i took art history. i thought maybe ~raphael perhaps, or at least of that era's style. very nice. =)

Modifié par Charsen, 01 juin 2010 - 12:29 .


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MorGothic wrote...

*Edit*

To slow...
Off to read Chapter 19...:o

Done, it was very good as always.


huzzah! was worried it was dull due to splitage

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It was very good. Can't wait for 20!

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soignee wrote...

MorGothic wrote...

*Edit*

To slow...
Off to read Chapter 19...:o

Done, it was very good as always.


huzzah! was worried it was dull due to splitage


Where and the way you ended made it work, if you hadn't split the chapter, it would ruined it due to too much happening in a single chapter, but with the chapter seeming reasonably calm you set the scene for the sh!t to really hit the fan in the next one.  

Does that make sense? :huh:

Can't await for Chapter 20. :o

Modifié par MorGothic, 01 juin 2010 - 12:50 .


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((Fffffffffffffffffff-- so I went poking through Zev prompts and found one. I'll have to brush up on some research if I do it, though. It's a complicated kink. Still. I'm doomed.

Kmeme is clearly like pringles. Once you pop you can't stop?))

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Charsen wrote...

this is really beautiful Mina. their faces seem very classical art in style. i tried to figure out what artist this reminds me of, but it's been a while since i took art history. i thought maybe ~raphael perhaps, or at least of that era's style. very nice. =)


Dürer? 

Modifié par Corker, 01 juin 2010 - 12:51 .


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Okay, soignee, I read the chapter, liked it, and decided to review it. It's easier to keep track of review feedback than remembering to look on the Zev page 1232/1233 for it, right?

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@Aro: :D Most excellent!

@Min: So lovely. You are amazing.

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Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, soignee, I read the chapter, liked it, and decided to review it. It's easier to keep track of review feedback than remembering to look on the Zev page 1232/1233 for it, right?


thanks sarah! woah long review *goes off to read*

I know you'd appreciate the dwarf politics of it... There's like 4 of us who do...

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soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, soignee, I read the chapter, liked it, and decided to review it. It's easier to keep track of review feedback than remembering to look on the Zev page 1232/1233 for it, right?


thanks sarah! woah long review *goes off to read*

I know you'd appreciate the dwarf politics of it... There's like 4 of us who do...

What? It was only 696 words! Image IPB

And I only know that as I had to type it out in Word because once you hit a certain length in the review window then it keeps flashing up to the top of your review so you can't see what you're writing.

And I adore the dwarven politics. Seriously, the game should have had more of them. And maybe more assassination attempts instead of fanatics trying to kill you on the street with everyone watching. And since Bhelen's greeting speech is so awesome and so is finding evidence Bhelen set you up, I think that's my new favorite way to play it.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 01 juin 2010 - 01:34 .


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Sarah1281 wrote...

soignee wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Okay, soignee, I read the chapter, liked it, and decided to review it. It's easier to keep track of review feedback than remembering to look on the Zev page 1232/1233 for it, right?


thanks sarah! woah long review *goes off to read*

I know you'd appreciate the dwarf politics of it... There's like 4 of us who do...

What? It was only 696 words! Image IPB

And I only know that as I had to type it out in Word because once you hit a certain length in the review window then it keeps flashing up to the top of your review so you can't see what you're writing.

And I adore the dwarven politics. Seriously, the game should have had more of them. And maybe more assassination attempts instead of fanatics trying to kill you on the street with everyone watching. And since Bhelen's greeting speech is so awesome and so is finding evidence Bhelen set you up, I think that's my new favorite way to play it.


jsut seems to be the dwarf noble way- assassins make sense instead of "fanatics." Much more practical then being jumped on randomly, but that's probably game mechanics.