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[Aroihkin]

Kaioku wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Objection! (T__T)


@aro: *JUMPS* HERE I AM! WRITING!

Edit: Ewwwwwwwwww I don't want Mpreg ... neither in nor getting it all over my face.

You! You never caaaaaall, you never wriiiiiiite! You just abandon meee!

Edit: Haha, oh, wow. Here, I'll post some fanart:





Like I could possibly resist the irony.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 14 juin 2010 - 05:23 .

[tmp7704]

soignee wrote...

bollocks, frankly. I'm sure Christina Aguilera would love to know I think her latest album could use a heavy hand in the editing department. Wait, I'll get it on it now.

And i'm sure everyone who draws fanart and writes fanfics has the popularity of Christina Aquilera together with the size of fanbase and amount of associated opinions regarding their work. Why, just yesterday i saw her posting in the "fanfiction sucks" and confessing she agonizes over her FF stats and whenever someone unsubscribes from following her work.

Srsly, we both know what i meant so why play the dumb card?

[Tellervo]

Kaioku wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Objection! (T__T)

I'm talking about in my own experience.  It's different for other people.  I have often considered throwing my hands up in disgust and giving up on art because it's very little return for a great deal of effort, but I have never seriously considered this with writing.

[Minaleth]

Tellervo wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Has it ever taken you longer than a year of regularly working on a drawing and not just abandoing it for awhile to finish it? It's taken me that long for some fanfics.

Yes, actually.  I have a couple of pastel pieces like that.  One of them is going on seven years now, and I'm convinced I'll never finish it to satisfaction.

For me, all drawing is an abstraction of some sort.  It takes me maybe thirty minutes of work to clearly communicate an image in words, but in art?  At least a week, and then it won't be quite what I intended.  And emotion, that I'm utterly incapable of communicating through art.  So, yes, fiction is much easier than art, at least for me.

Ok, let me compare my skills. I have never written any fic, so you could expect I don't write. The truth is I write scientific stuff for job and fiction (but no fanfiction) and poetry as personal relax. I find writing easier. It comes naturally and it doesn't need many corrections until I find it good enough. Though when it comes to fiction I am at loss because I am unable to make up plots (therefor I admire everyone of you who can write decent plot ), but writing bad plotless fic would be piece of cake. When I draw it's struggle, lot's of erasing, bending lines, oogling references, remaking whole parts and redrawing until my damn finger hurts. I have no professional training for either of those skills.
In conclusion I think that it depends on person and their talent what do they find easier. Though me thinks that a random picked person with no skill would go for writing. As have been already said - anyone can "write" that it resembles a fluent text. Drawing something that is better than a stick figure would take more effort if you have zero skill.
Comparing end products is pointless because the skills used are unbelievably different and there is no way how to say which one takes more effort to finish. even if you can measure it in hours, but that is not the whole truth.

[soignee]

tmp7704 wrote...

soignee wrote...

bollocks, frankly. I'm sure Christina Aguilera would love to know I think her latest album could use a heavy hand in the editing department. Wait, I'll get it on it now.

And i'm sure everyone who draws fanart and writes fanfics has the popularity of Christina Aquilera together with the size of fanbase and amount of associated opinions regarding their work. Why, just yesterday i saw her posting in the "fanfiction sucks" and confessing she agonizes over her FF stats and whenever someone unsubscribes from following her work.

Srsly, we both know what i meant so why play the dumb card?

I'm not going to touch this as you knew what I meant also.

But the delicious, delicious image of Christina Aguilera checking her stat bar at ff.net for her fanfic is such a happy image I want to draw it. ANNNND I AMMMMM.

I reckon Christina Aguilera would write Supernatural fanfic, internets. She seems the type.

[tmp7704]

soignee wrote...

But the delicious, delicious image of Christina Aguilera checking her stat bar at ff.net for her fanfic is such a happy image I want to draw it. ANNNND I AMMMMM.

woot, somethiing good came out of that, then. POST WHEN DONE?

[Tellervo]

Minaleth wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Has it ever taken you longer than a year of regularly working on a drawing and not just abandoing it for awhile to finish it? It's taken me that long for some fanfics.

Yes, actually.  I have a couple of pastel pieces like that.  One of them is going on seven years now, and I'm convinced I'll never finish it to satisfaction.

For me, all drawing is an abstraction of some sort.  It takes me maybe thirty minutes of work to clearly communicate an image in words, but in art?  At least a week, and then it won't be quite what I intended.  And emotion, that I'm utterly incapable of communicating through art.  So, yes, fiction is much easier than art, at least for me.

Ok, let me compare my skills. I have never written any fic, so you could expect I don't write. The truth is I write scientific stuff for job and fiction (but no fanfiction) and poetry as personal relax. I find writing easier. It comes naturally and it doesn't need many corrections until I find it good enough. Though when it comes to fiction I am at loss because I am unable to make up plots (therefor I admire everyone of you who can write decent plot ), but writing bad plotless fic would be piece of cake. When I draw it's struggle, lot's of erasing, bending lines, oogling references, remaking whole parts and redrawing until my damn finger hurts. I have no professional training for either of those skills.
In conclusion I think that it depends on person and their talent what do they find easier. Though me thinks that a random picked person with no skill would go for writing. As have been already said - anyone can "write" that it resembles a fluent text. Drawing something that is better than a stick figure would take more effort if you have zero skill.
Comparing end products is pointless because the skills used are unbelievably different and there is no way how to say which one takes more effort to finish. even if you can measure it in hours, but that is not the whole truth.

That's my point, though.  It's not about a matter of time but about clarity of vision and the ability to communicate that vision.  For me, words are easy.  Putting what I see in my head on paper in lines is much more difficult.

[Kaioku]

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Objection! (T__T)


@aro: *JUMPS* HERE I AM! WRITING!

Edit: Ewwwwwwwwww I don't want Mpreg ... neither in nor getting it all over my face.

You! You never caaaaaall, you never wriiiiiiite! You just abandon meee!

Lies and slander! What do you think I'm doing right here, right now? Dancing the funky chicken, juggling dictionaries while humming the jeopardy's theme?
Also, I was busy getting accepted into one of the best design schools in Germany, I'm sure that counts for something...

[Aroihkin]

Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Objection! (T__T)


@aro: *JUMPS* HERE I AM! WRITING!

Edit: Ewwwwwwwwww I don't want Mpreg ... neither in nor getting it all over my face.

You! You never caaaaaall, you never wriiiiiiite! You just abandon meee!

Lies and slander! What do you think I'm doing right here, right now? Dancing the funky chicken, juggling dictionaries while humming the jeopardy's theme?
Also, I was busy getting accepted into one of the best design schools in Germany, I'm sure that counts for something...

...Wait, that's not what you're doing?

All this time, all these lies!

I think I saw something about that on devart or something? Congrats~ :3

But you'll just leeeaaave meeee agaaaain. Sob.

[Kaioku]

Tellervo wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Objection! (T__T)

I'm talking about in my own experience.  It's different for other people.  I have often considered throwing my hands up in disgust and giving up on art because it's very little return for a great deal of effort, but I have never seriously considered this with writing.

See, it's exactly the other way around with me.
There's gotta be different kinds of artsy folks, that way they can inspire each other. That's what I think. :3

[Kaioku]

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Objection! (T__T)


@aro: *JUMPS* HERE I AM! WRITING!

Edit: Ewwwwwwwwww I don't want Mpreg ... neither in nor getting it all over my face.

You! You never caaaaaall, you never wriiiiiiite! You just abandon meee!

Lies and slander! What do you think I'm doing right here, right now? Dancing the funky chicken, juggling dictionaries while humming the jeopardy's theme?
Also, I was busy getting accepted into one of the best design schools in Germany, I'm sure that counts for something...

...Wait, that's not what you're doing?

All this time, all these lies!

I think I saw something about that on devart or something? Congrats~ :3

But you'll just leeeaaave meeee agaaaain. Sob.

Yeah honey, I'm sorry. I should've commented on your impressive fanart, but never got around to... Just you wait ten minutes until my hands aren't busy holding chopsticks anymore and I'll come online (AIM) alright? <3

[ejoslin]

Kaioku wrote...


Lies and slander! What do you think I'm doing right here, right now? Dancing the funky chicken, juggling dictionaries while humming the jeopardy's theme?
Also, I was busy getting accepted into one of the best design schools in Germany, I'm sure that counts for something...

Ohohoh!  Congratulations!

[Aroihkin]

Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Words just come out. Drawing takes me weeks, rarely gets finished, and I never like it even if I'm proud of the improvement. So, it depends on the person. Everyone's got different talents. Personally, I think fic is about a thousand times easier than art.

Objection! (T__T)


@aro: *JUMPS* HERE I AM! WRITING!

Edit: Ewwwwwwwwww I don't want Mpreg ... neither in nor getting it all over my face.

You! You never caaaaaall, you never wriiiiiiite! You just abandon meee!

Lies and slander! What do you think I'm doing right here, right now? Dancing the funky chicken, juggling dictionaries while humming the jeopardy's theme?
Also, I was busy getting accepted into one of the best design schools in Germany, I'm sure that counts for something...

...Wait, that's not what you're doing?

All this time, all these lies!

I think I saw something about that on devart or something? Congrats~ :3

But you'll just leeeaaave meeee agaaaain. Sob.

Yeah honey, I'm sorry. I should've commented on your impressive fanart, but never got around to... Just you wait ten minutes until my hands aren't busy holding chopsticks anymore and I'll come online (AIM) alright? <3

I've been up all night and am stupid tired, so I'mma just leer at that for no particular reason.

READY?

SET?

LEEEEEEEEER!

...god, every macro I went through my folder to hotlink here would get me banninated or at the very least flamewar'd at, so have this one:



Treasure it always!

[Nonvita]

Forget it, this wasn't worthwhile. Just needed to blow off some steam.


Now moving on: KAIOKU IS BAAAAACK! And she got into an awesome design school! That's fantastic! *is super jealous* Congratulations!

Modifié par Nonvita, 14 juin 2010 - 07:40 .

[Charsen]

awesome Kaioku! congrats =))



regarding the fanfic/fanart stuff.... rum helps

[Tellervo]

Kaioku!  How wonderful.  May I hump your leg in celebration?

Charsen wrote...

regarding the fanfic/fanart stuff.... rum helps

Bourbon.  Definitely bourbon.

[soignee]

Charsen wrote...

awesome Kaioku! congrats =))

regarding the fanfic/fanart stuff.... rum helps

you might be right... is there any left?

[Herr Uhl]

soignee wrote...

Charsen wrote...

awesome Kaioku! congrats =))

regarding the fanfic/fanart stuff.... rum helps

you might be right... is there any left?

The rum is gone.

[soignee]

Herr Uhl wrote...

soignee wrote...

Charsen wrote...

awesome Kaioku! congrats =))

regarding the fanfic/fanart stuff.... rum helps

you might be right... is there any left?

The rum is gone.

YES BUT WHY IS THE RUM GONE

[Charsen]

soignee wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

soignee wrote...

Charsen wrote...

awesome Kaioku! congrats =))

regarding the fanfic/fanart stuff.... rum helps

you might be right... is there any left?

The rum is gone.

YES BUT WHY IS THE RUM GONE

DRINKS ALL AROUND!

[Herr Uhl]

*predicted that link being posted in 2 posts*



Just as planned.

[Nonvita]

Rum would cure my hangover headache, yessirree.

[soignee]

Nonvita wrote...

Rum would cure my hangover headache, yessirree.

The urge to drink heavily is upon me again, who's with me?! *pets gin bottle absently*

[Herr Uhl]

soignee wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Rum would cure my hangover headache, yessirree.

The urge to drink heavily is upon me again, who's with me?! *pets gin bottle absently*

*curses cast*

[Corker]

Hello again!

I baked soignee some virtual cookies as writing-bait over in the dwarf thread, and she thought I should share one of them over here.  It's not a pun, but it's the very next worst thing.

There was an Antivan assassin
Who thought he'd go Grey Warden-stabbin
"Hey, he's kind of hot"
The Grey Warden thought
And now in her tent  they are thrashin

(Or change out "her" for "his" as appropriate)

Modifié par Corker, 14 juin 2010 - 10:50 .