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ejoslin wrote...


Kaioku wrote...


Lies and slander! What do you think I'm doing right here, right now? Dancing the funky chicken, juggling dictionaries while humming the jeopardy's theme?
Also, I was busy getting accepted into one of the best design schools in Germany, I'm sure that counts for something... :unsure:


Ohohoh!  Congratulations!


Thanks a billion ejoslin! :wub:
Well the fact that it's one of the very best schools there are as I so humbly mentioned (because well, I'm proud, d'uh xD)
doesn't necessarily say much for the quality of art schools around here but still, I'm really, really ****ing honored. :lol::)

Edit: Well lookie that, top of the page. *lol* Tiny tiny pic:

Image IPB

Modifié par Kaioku, 15 juin 2010 - 06:34 .


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@ Kaioku, Congratulations! It sounds very exciting.

And I know what that tiny picture is - it's one of my favourites of yours.

@ Aro, I'm delighted that you're posting your progress again. I will look forward to it. I love the detail on the clothing. It reminds me that I don't look at things properly. :lol:

Modifié par Sannox, 15 juin 2010 - 06:38 .


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sami jo

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Does anyone have the massage invite convo handy? The toolset has decided it hates me and my game keeps crashing (I think it's the new video drivers).

Edit: @Aro: amazing again.

Modifié par sami jo, 15 juin 2010 - 07:31 .


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sami jo wrote...

Does anyone have the massage invite convo handy? The toolset has decided it hates me and my game keeps crashing (I think it's the new video drivers).

Edit: @Aro: amazing again.

Do you remember what conversation it's in? 

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I think he means the one where Zev's asking you to his tent, that comes up randomly when you're at a certain affection level and go back to the camp.

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Okay, I found it. It will probably take a few minutes to type up, though.

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@ Aro - very awesome :3 Progress stages are always interesting. What are you going to do with background? Backgrounds scare me.

Alley fanart is also nice, she looks exactly how I imagine it.

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That's the one. Thank you, Sarah!

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If Zevran is at adore at you haven't gone to the tent yet:

If female: Zevran: Tsk. You looks so tired, my dear. It is all this constant walking and fighting. I think I know what you need. (VO: seductive)
If male: Tsk. Look at you. Your weary stance, the dark circles under your eyes. P oor man, all this constant walking has gotten to you. Do you know what you need? (VO: seductive)
(PC: A horse?
Zevran: A little late for that, I should think (VO: amused))
(PC: A good night's rest, maybe.
Zevran: Mmm, I'm thinking more drastic measures are called for (VO: seductive))
(PC: Well I doubt you can give it to me.
Zevran: Oh? Is that a challenge I hear? (VO: chuckling, amused))
(PC: O? This I have to hear.)
Zevarn: My thought is this. We retire to your tent and I show you the sort of massage skills that one only learns growing up in an Antivan ****house. (VO: seductive)

(PC: You must be joking.
Zevran: Do you see me laughing? This need be no complex thing. You are a beautiful and fascinating woman. I am...well, I am who I am. Is there any reason not to enjoy each others' company?
(PC: Zevran, I...don't know about this...
Zevran: *chuckles* What is there to fear, my Grey Warden? You deserve a little fun, do you not? If you're not of a mind, however, it is no tragedy (VO: easy come, easy go)
(PC: No. This is not going to happen. Ever.
Zevran: I see. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there? I apologize if my offer was...inappropriate. (VO: Disappointed but not very))
(PC: We're not exactly alone.
Zevran: Oh, THAT. Bashful, are we? As you wish (VO: amused))
(PC: There is someone else.
Zevran: Ah, my mistake. Say no more, then. I take it all back. (VO: he did not know that, did not mean to offend))
(PC: Not here, not now.
Zevran: Ah, well. You can't blame a man for trying, can you? Never fear. Another time will always present itself. (VO: amused chuckle))
(PC: No, I'm definitely of a mind.
Zevran: Then why are we still talking?(VO: seductive -- this leads into a love scene))

(PC: How about the fact that you're an assassin?
Zevran: Now here I thought we'd gotten past that. Taliesen is dead, and there is no more benefit to my killing you. Surely you understand that?/Now here I thought we had gotten past that. Must you be so distrustful? Can I not be forgiven my past, mm? (VO: amused by the question, tut-tutting the player)
(PC: I still don't trust you.
Zevran: I see. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there? I apologize if my offer was...inappropriate. (VO: Disappointed but not very))
(PC: It doesn't matter.
Zevran: I see. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there? I apologize if my offer was...inappropriate. (VO: Disappointed but not very))
(PC: There is someone else)
(PC: Zevran...I don't know about this...)
(PC: You're right.
Zevran: A willing victim it is. And if I might ask, if the opportunity to proceed past the massage should present itself? (VO: suggestive)))

(PC: A great many reasons, actually)
Zevran: I see. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there? I apologize if my offer was...inappropriate. (VO: Disappointed but not very))
(PC: There is someone else.)
(PC: I suppose not...
Zevran: A willing victim it is. And if I might ask, if the opportunity to proceed past the massage should present itself? (VO: suggestive)))

(PC: No. Absolutely not.
Zevran: Why? Because you are a man? Surely we are past such superficial definitions. We travel together, do battle together...is there any reason we may not also take pleasure in each other's company? (VO: amused)
(PC: You have the wrong idea bout me.
Zevran: I see. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there? I apologize if my offer was...inappropriate. (VO: Disappointed but not very))
(PC: How about the fact that you're an assassin?)
(PC: Zevran, I...don't know about this...)
(PC: There is someone else.)
(PC: I suppose not...))

(PC: Are you suggesting what I think you are?
Zevran: If you mean to ask whether or not there might be more than a massage involved, allo wme to simply say taht you won't be disappointed with any of the techniques I've picked up over the years (VO: seductive)
(PC: That sounds good to me.)
(PC: You must be joking.)
(PC: No. Absolutely not.)
(PC: Zevran, I...don't know about this.)
(PC: Are you sure about this?
Zevran: *chuckles* What is there to fear, my Grey Warden? You deserve a little fun, do you not? If you're not of a mind, however, it is no tragedy (VO: easy come, easy go)))

(PC: That sounds good to me.
Zevran: A willing victim it is. And if I might ask, if the opportunity to proceed past the massage should present itself? (VO: suggestive))
(PC: I'll leave that up to you.
Zevran: Then why are we still talking?(VO: seductive -- this leads into a love scene))
(PC: It won't. Ever. Trust me.
Zevran: I see. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there? I apologize if my offer was...inappropriate. (VO: Disappointed but not very))
(PC: Let's not go there, shall we?
Zevran: Ever the evasive one, hmm? *chuckles* Another time, then. If you're lucky. (VO: amused))
(PC: I'm sure I'll think of something.
Zevran: Then why are we still talking?(VO: seductive -- this leads into a love scene)))

#32635
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Aroihkin wrote...
The idea of shading so much black leather is making me ¬.¬-face though.

Tip:  If you pick the color black and click on the pouring paint bucket, you can color it all black in one go!  :o

(Yes, yes, that was a joke.  But that's how I'd approach the problem.  Which is why stick figures are as artistic as I get!)

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Thank you, Sarah! <333333



While I'm being pesky...does anyone have the convo right after that where Zev tells the Warden the poem? *insert sheepish look here*




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sami jo wrote...

Thank you, Sarah!

While I'm being pesky...does anyone have the convo right after that where Zev tells the Warden the poem? *insert sheepish look here*


Wait.....he tells a poem...how come I missed THAT?! Almost missed the ring part as well, only got it before the Final battle.

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

sami jo wrote...

Thank you, Sarah!

While I'm being pesky...does anyone have the convo right after that where Zev tells the Warden the poem? *insert sheepish look here*


Wait.....he tells a poem...how come I missed THAT?! Almost missed the ring part as well, only got it before the Final battle.


At roughly +70 he asks the Warden if s/he knows anything of poetry then shares an awful and very baudy poem a mark told him to try to cheer the Warden up.  It's the raunchy version of a little kid telling you a bad knock-knock joke to cheer you up--sweet and a little awkward.

#32639
Aroihkin

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Yeah, you get the poem convo instead of the "you have to pick between us" convo if you don't have another romance when he hits that point. Also, the poem is different depending on the PC's gender, which has made me always think he came up with it himself and is lying about the mark. XD Especially since he's so nervous telling it to you. -- Do you need the whole convo, Sami? I'm typing it up, but someone will probably beat me to it. :3

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I was on the downstairs computer for awhile and my laptop is the one with the toolset so if you're doing the poem convo then I won't bother looking it up as well.

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Aroihkin wrote...

Yeah, you get the poem convo instead of the "you have to pick between us" convo if you don't have another romance when he hits that point. Also, the poem is different depending on the PC's gender, which has made me always think he came up with it himself and is lying about the mark. XD Especially since he's so nervous telling it to you. -- Do you need the whole convo, Sami? I'm typing it up, but someone will probably beat me to it. :3


I just need through the poem and then the line about how he's learned to take things as they come.  (Crazy muse strikes again.  If I can ever get Tzofi past Lothering, I'll be nearly finished. ::headdesk::)

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Costin_Razvan wrote...

sami jo wrote...

Thank you, Sarah!

While I'm being pesky...does anyone have the convo right after that where Zev tells the Warden the poem? *insert sheepish look here*


Wait.....he tells a poem...how come I missed THAT?! Almost missed the ring part as well, only got it before the Final battle.


Heh, then I hate to tell you this, but you missed the final part of the romance as well.  It happens AFTER he offers the earring for the first time, and you have to invite him to the tent to open that dialog.  It's where he finally declares his feelings, and if you turned down the earring the first time he offered it, perhaps proposes.

Edit: I agree with Aro about the poem -- a female mark most certainly did not say the poem as he tells it to a female warden.  Whether he made it completely up or just changed a bit of it, though, it's hard to say.  It's a pretty bad story to make up as a cover.  You can skip it completely, though, if he forces you to choose between him and someone else when you choose him, though; just tell him you can't talk right then or whatever.

Modifié par ejoslin, 15 juin 2010 - 09:16 .


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sami jo wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Yeah, you get the poem convo instead of the "you have to pick between us" convo if you don't have another romance when he hits that point. Also, the poem is different depending on the PC's gender, which has made me always think he came up with it himself and is lying about the mark. XD Especially since he's so nervous telling it to you. -- Do you need the whole convo, Sami? I'm typing it up, but someone will probably beat me to it. :3


I just need through the poem and then the line about how he's learned to take things as they come.  (Crazy muse strikes again.  If I can ever get Tzofi past Lothering, I'll be nearly finished. ::headdesk::)

I didn't do all the branches, then. :33 Lemme know if you need more of a bit.

Z: How well-versed are you in poetry? Antivan poetry specifically.

-W: I know nothing of poetry.
--Z: *Chuckles* Trust me, you'll know even less once I tell you this. (he has little confidence in his poetry skills)

-W: This is your question?
--Z: And why not? I am no master of serious dialogue, after all. (amused)

-W: I know a good poem when I hear it.
--Z: A-ha! Well trust me, then, you won't be hearing it now.

----

Z: It was recited to me, as I recall, by a rather wealthy target of mine. Let's see... "The symphony I see in thee / it whispers songs to me." (his best poetry recitation voice -- this is romantic stuff)

IF: PC is male
Z: "Songs of hot breath upon my neck / songs of soft grunts by my head / songs of hands on muscled back / songs of thee come to my bed." (his best poetry recitation voice -- this is romantic stuff)

IF: PC is female
Z: "Songs of hot breath upon my neck/ songs of soft sighs by my head / songs of nails upon my back / songs of thee come to my bed." (his best poetry recitation voice -- this is romantic stuff)

----

-W: Oh dear...
or
-W: This was told to you by a target?
or
-W: That is cringe-worthy at best.
--Z: Oh, I know, I know. I couldn't believe that she thought this would actually convince me to spare her. (amused, meaning that he assassinated the woman who told him the poem)

-W: What is that? Sex poetry?
--Z: So she claimed. She was trying to seduce me, you see, and somehow thought that this would actually convince me to spare her.

----

Z: I had sex with her anyway, but that goes without saying. She still had to die. The poem was amusing at the time, however, and thus I've always remembered it. (wistful memory)

--

W: And why are you telling it to me?

IF: PC is male
Z: Here I thought you might be cheered up by some naughty poetry. You simply look so... grim. Such an unflattering expression for such a handsome face. (playful)

-W: You think I'm handsome, do you?
--Z: Who wouldn't? Burn me in the chantry if you must, but you're a man to stoke the lust in women and other men alike. *Chuckles* Surely you know this and are playing with me. (playful)

Z: Me, I tend to make the best of whatever situation I find myself in, stealing what moments I can. It's served me well, most days. You might learn to do the same. (teasing)

#32644
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ejoslin wrote...

Edit: I agree with Aro about the poem -- a female mark most certainly did not say the poem as he tells it to a female warden.  Whether he made it completely up or just changed a bit of it, though, it's hard to say.  It's a pretty bad story to make up as a cover.


The story about a mark trying to seduce him with bad poetry may even be perfectly true, but -- especially with the voice-acting making him sound soooo nervous reciting it to you, and the gender thing, and etc -- I suspect that particular poem didn't come from any mark. XD

But this is Zev, so of course he didn't come up with it. He just, uh, is holding it. For a friend person he killed. Honest!

:?:unsure:

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I love the way he clears he throat before telling it.

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ejoslin wrote...

I love the way he clears he throat before telling it.

Yeah. XD And this supports the "Zev made it up and is a lying liar who lies" theory, the VO note on this line:

Z: *Chuckles* Trust me, you'll know even less once I tell you this. (he has little confidence in his poetry skills)

His poetry skills. Not his memory, recitation skills, etc... XD

Really, he's so adorable sometimes.:wub: And full of sh*t.

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Well there are only two small parts different in the male and female version so it would be easy enough to change. "Grunts" to "sighs" and "hands on muscled to" "nails upon my."

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Charsen wrote...

speaking of the zombie apocalypse, go to Newsweek.com, press ↑, ↑, ↓, ↓, ←, →, ←, →, B, A, hit Enter (saw this on reddit)

o.O Why the Konami code???

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<3 Thank you Aro!

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SurrealSadi wrote...

Charsen wrote...

speaking of the zombie apocalypse, go to Newsweek.com, press ↑, ↑, ↓, ↓, ←, →, ←, →, B, A, hit Enter (saw this on reddit)

o.O Why the Konami code???

I can't get this frickin' thing to work.  Anyone else having problems?