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[Nonvita]

ejoslin wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...

I can't imagine him having any experience with kids, though, so how unless he gets some then how is he supposed to know what to do with his own?

It's not rocket science.  It really isn't.  Kids don't come with instruction manuals, but at the same time, there's no great mystery either. He obviously is not short tempered nor does he say cruel things out of anger.  So he's already a better parent than many out there.  

Edit: ROFL, I make it sound like he's a real person.  But seriously, patience and remaining level headed are two of the most important things when it comes to raising children.

Hehe, seriously. I don't imagine him being the disciplinarian parent, but I think he'd be a good one nonetheless. I always picture my CE coming home to find him teaching their child about poisons, for example, for which he'd definitely need a little scolding (but scolding is fun, right? =P). I imagine, "Do what your mother says," coming up quite often. Still, he's patient and easygoing, and I think he really would want to see a child have a better life than he did.

He's not a real person, but I think it's cute nonetheless!

Edit: Annnnnnd kisses it is. Because Charsen is the bestest ever. <3

Modifié par Nonvita, 22 juin 2010 - 05:16 .

[Charsen]

i have made a new group for the Weddings discussion so i won't lose track of your suggestions

jen - Wade is supposed to be "cheering" but i have to tighten his animations.. Lily is crying in the backrow cuz yeah that is a hot mess

surreal - thanks =) i plan to add other people to the audience in the backrow, like a dalish or a werewolf depending on how that is handled, or maybe i will put the Crow "representative" back there, lurking..

jayelet - the lady in the back row is Lily, though i should make Wynne's head explode in rage (wynne is behind Zevran as a Mage witness)

nonV- JackFuzz's disappearance was extremely sudden, he promised to release his mod one day and then he disappeared, his accounts deleted, his groups deleted later... it was bizarre, people said even his email bounced. oh well. =[[ maybe down the road.
btw <3

EJ - i'm gonna PM you soon when i start working on that dialogue -- if we can combine them to one working B2B with all that stuff, that would be great cuz right now i don't even know which version to use XP

re: ring - i think 2nd proposal is most appropriate too
re: equal ("gay") marriage in the game not being canon - don't care. i think the savior from the blight could convince someone to do it for them. besides, i wouldn't do the mod without it, simple as that

soignee wrote...
mannnnn charsen's going to kill me... THE OWLS MADE ME DO IT, FORGIVEEEE MEEEEEEEE
please don't put wynne in the honeymoon scene for dwarves

Wynne is gonna be there, watching your honeymoon and growling, and Ogren will be hanging naked from the ceiling, watching

Herr Uhl wrote...

Sarah1281 wrote...
Why?

Because Native Americans are weird that way.

hmm what was that? all i see is bork bork bork....weird =p

sarah, owls see for spirits, that can be good or bad *shrug*

Modifié par Charsen, 22 juin 2010 - 06:19 .

[Sannox]

Catching up late, but I agree that having the earring doesn't work so well as a trigger for the proposal, because of the conversations that come after. It would work best after the conversation where he explains what he feels (at the same point as the second offer, if it exists).  (ETA: I just remembered that wardens who reject it and then feel the same as Zevran don't get the proposal or the earring, so they need the opportunity to ask too).  The trigger for the dialogue to come up would be a positive answer to that conversation. 

I'm not sure with the other companions. Morrigan's could maybe come after she offers the ring, so I think all of them could be pre-Landsmeet apart from Zevran.

I don't think it matters that the Chantry don't approve (of gay marriages). It's a private ceremony done as a favour to the warden. I can imagine a way to fit it in if I want it in game, the same as I managed to fit in the Loghain kiss!
And I do think it's great that the warden will get a chance to propose if they want.

ETA: I also love the idea of having the quiet ceremony in the clearing for everybody.   It would be best for Morrigan, but it would also be great for some of the wardens who would be unlikely to have a chantry wedding (the dwarves who avoided that quest, the Dalish, etc.).

Modifié par Sannox, 22 juin 2010 - 07:13 .

[Sannox]

soignee wrote...
See I ballsed up the conversation on Missa in game. DDW the fic is obviously not a canon playthrough.

What I don't like about it is the timing. Missa will have gameface on because: 1) she got beat up and shoved in jail 2) LOL LAND'S MEET. She's not going to be have her guard down long enough to give him the proper time of day. I've written one scene and she sounds a right c*ck in it because sheit boils down to FFS ZEV, HERE, NOW? WRY.

I think that it is a bit like that though - at least, the way it worked for me, the earring offer seemed to come right in the middle of a lot of stuff.    It was on the way to rescue Anora, and we were still standing over Taliesin's body after Zevran having promised to stay till death, and I had to talk to him again ...., and we were in a hurry, presumably, with the other companions standing waiting!   I know it's possible to wait until later until you're back at camp, but as you say, that will usually mean it's after the prison escape, and again, there's a lot going on.   The other companions have their moments earlier, maybe in calmer times, but Zevran's is right in the midst of everything. 

Modifié par Sannox, 22 juin 2010 - 07:33 .

[Sannox]

Aroihkin wrote...

Done!



Click for DevArt link. :3

I almost missed this!    I love the light and dark and particularly the details on the clothes.    It's even better having read the story!

[Charsen]

Sannox wrote...

soignee wrote...
See I ballsed up the conversation on Missa in game. DDW the fic is obviously not a canon playthrough.

What I don't like about it is the timing. Missa will have gameface on because: 1) she got beat up and shoved in jail 2) LOL LAND'S MEET. She's not going to be have her guard down long enough to give him the proper time of day. I've written one scene and she sounds a right c*ck in it because sheit boils down to FFS ZEV, HERE, NOW? WRY.

I think that it is a bit like that though - at least, the way it worked for me, the earring offer seemed to come right in the middle of a lot of stuff.    It was on the way to rescue Anora, and we were still standing over Taliesin's body after Zevran having promised to stay till death, and I had to talk to him again ...., and we were in a hurry, presumably, with the other companions standing waiting!   I know it's possible to wait until later until you're back at camp, but as you say, that will usually mean it's after the prison escape, but again, there's a lot going on.   The other companions have their moments earlier, maybe in calmer times, but Zevran's is right in the midst of everything. 

this is true.. well i suppose it could happen during the epilogue. but wouldn't that seem awkwardly placed too?

[Cuddlezarro]

*shuffles through all the squeeing fangirls*



ohai people~



whoopsie

[Sannox]

@ Charsen, I do like it where it is, in the midst of everything. I just meant that I could understand Missa's reaction.



@ CZ, that looks like fun, whatever it is. My son keeps telling me I would love FO3, but our version is on Xbox and I never play that.

[Cuddlezarro]

Sannox wrote...

@ Charsen, I do like it where it is, in the midst of everything. I just meant that I could understand Missa's reaction.

@ CZ, that looks like fun, whatever it is. My son keeps telling me I would love FO3, but our version is on Xbox and I never play that.

it is fun

despite the fact its my first playthrough iv kind of already got like 10mods installed =3


edit:and that was me detonating a nuke in the middle of a town =3

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 22 juin 2010 - 08:04 .

[Minaleth]

@ Aro - your art is very awesome and well accompanies the story ^^

@ Squee Mod - I don't really care when that happens, because I need to replay from save anyway. I think that anything after earring is okay for Zevran. Personaly most natural seem to be the epilogue setting, as the Warden and group actually have time for more pleasant things. But as I said I would LOVE it anyway.

CZ shuffling through the fangirl crowd is exceptionally amusing sight ... :3

Modifié par Minaleth, 22 juin 2010 - 08:35 .

[Charsen]

well. i could make one at the epilogue also, and then you can pick when you do it. and then if you decide to wait to the epilogue to marry him, it would be something a little more grand and originless



*pulls CZ close so he doesn't get lost*

[Minaleth]

Right. Let me make some more coherent thought on that matter and I'll writ it in you project discussion later. I might have also some thought on Leliana.

[Sannox]

Thinking about the epilogue again, that was one part of the game that was a bit of a let down for me.  There's the chance for the short conversation with Zevran, which is OK, but I suppose I imagined that they'd be together at the end, rather than the warden going off on their own (even if it's only temporarily).   And I also wanted a bit of a more involved conversation about what had happened.   So yes, maybe having the ceremony that late in the game, after the archdemon, would make up for that (if that's what you're talking about).    But it would mean that the US wardens would miss out.  

The earlier conversation about Zevran and kids - I think he would be OK as a father, and very single minded about protecting his children, as he is with the warden, and also caring and aware of their needs.   He would definitely keep them away from the physical abuse he experienced.   When he talks about the sex though, he doesn't seem to be talking about sexual abuse the way he sees it.  So I don't think he'd be particulary protective that way (i.e. he wouldn't want them exploited, but he'd probably just smile at underage experimenting).  I agree with EJ that an awful goes over small children's heads, so although he might not be overly careful about what he exposed them to, they probably wouldn't pick up on it (suggestive comments to the warden, etc.).  I imagine he'd expect them to be independent at a fairly young age.  I don't see him mollycoddling them, although he would be indulgent at times.    I don't think he'd ever be gushing - I think there would always be that bit of reserve there.  The way he is at the end of Origins could be the start of process of change.

I don't suppose there is much chance of a child (especially not with a male warden), but maybe they would adopt - perhaps in Antiva.  I could see him being happy never having a child, though.

Modifié par Sannox, 22 juin 2010 - 09:01 .

[Cuddlezarro]

my dude in his new unupgraded penthouse suite









...dude how can you say my guy is wearing rags! XD

[Sannox]

Well, the decor isn't very fabulous, I have to say. That place could do with a lick of paint.

[Cuddlezarro]

Sannox wrote...

Well, the decor isn't very fabulous, I have to say. That place could do with a lick of paint.

well I could always paint the walls red with there blood

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 22 juin 2010 - 09:36 .

[Nonvita]

Ack! I never actually replied. >.>



I think the epilogue might be the best, though there will still be some problems. But there will be problems no matter where it is, so why not? The epilogue might be the least cluttered time to put it in and, like Sannox said, add some depth to it. But uhhhhh, do whatever works best for you!



*drunken rambling*

[Charsen]

i think i'm gonna do both. if you think it's not too cluttered before the end of the game to marry, do it then, otherwise wait til the end and accost him in the party hall and see if he'll do it then --

[soignee]

Sannox wrote...
I don't suppose there is much chance of a child (especially not with a male warden), but maybe they would adopt - perhaps in Antiva.  I could see him being happy never having a child, though.

Yeah, Missa isn''t exactly a breeder >.> She has shoddy ovaries, thanks dwarf genes!

[tmp7704]

Nonvita wrote...

He makes a couple snarky banter comments in the Alienage--one regarding the tree and the other about alienages in general. He never specifically says to the CE what his problems are, but it's easy to infer that he sees them as being lazy and accepting their poor lots in life instead of fighting for something better.

Meh, mr "i was bought by the Crows so then i spent my whole life as their property even though i didn't exactly like it there" is hardly in position to get on the high horse regarding that matter, isn't he...

[Sannox]

Yes, I thought the same with my dwarf - dwarf/elf combo, warden taint - not a hope. Luckily, I didn't imagine her as particularly maternal. She'd probably just be relieved not to have to bother with contraception.



Would it be possible for Loghain to officiate at the non-chantry ceremonies, if Wynne isn't there, or instead of Wynne? Am I being silly now? It's just that he has a certain gravitas, and none of my characters are really chantry types, and I'm really taken with the idea of the ceremony in a clearing.

[Herr Uhl]

tmp7704 wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

He makes a couple snarky banter comments in the Alienage--one regarding the tree and the other about alienages in general. He never specifically says to the CE what his problems are, but it's easy to infer that he sees them as being lazy and accepting their poor lots in life instead of fighting for something better.

Meh, mr "i was bought by the Crows so then i spent my whole life as their property even though i didn't exactly like it there" is hardly in position to get on the high horse regarding that matter, isn't he...

Like Morrigan and circle mages then.

[tmp7704]

Well bit different i think since Morrigan didn't experience much of the circle mages lot herself so she's speaking out of ignorance. Zevran's comment comes across more like hypocrisy. I'm going to see if the VO notes have something more on that, though.

edit: ah, that's the lines and notes:

#15 - LANDSMEET (ELVEN ALIENAGE) - just inside the gate, coming into the Alienage proper
Ahhh, an alienage. They're the same everywhere, aren't they? (combination of bitterness and amusement)

#16 - LANDSMEET (ELVEN ALIENAGE) - upon nearing the giant tree in the clearing (the vhenadahl)
Elves plant these trees to remind themselves of who they once were. And then they pee on it. Charming symbolism, really. (amused)

okay, doesn't really strike me as if he's disapproving or looking down on them. Feels more like memories to his own past and the ironic snarkiness that's his usual coping routine.

edit 2: and lol at Leliana's notes

This is a real alienage! I've never been in one! How exciting! (Inappropriate gushing.)

Modifié par tmp7704, 22 juin 2010 - 11:25 .

[Jayelet]

My characters do not like the chapel at all, I doubt very much that they felt comfortable there.
My suggestion is that the elves, have the their origin, are allowed to choose who will lead the ceremony, an example:
Pavel or Marethari  I think a better option for them than any other. And the best the city forest.

Wynne did not please.

Modifié par Jayelet, 22 juin 2010 - 11:25 .

[sami jo]

@Charsen: Squee! =P It looks great so far.