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Charsen wrote...
lulziest wedding mod glitch ever. even zevran's expression is a glitch. sometimes the toolset freaks out and does odd stuff with faces. don't worry... it's fixed. =p
Hmm... When I spared Loghain, Alistair was hardened and pre-arranged to marry Anora -- and he still did. Or is that not what you meant?ejoslin wrote...
Edit: An interesting thing at this point in this conversation -- if Alistair is hardened, and you did NOT arrange for the marriage ahead of time, you can talk him into marrying Anora at this point. However, if it was arranged ahead of time, he won't marry her no matter what.
jenovan wrote...
Hmm... When I spared Loghain, Alistair was hardened and pre-arranged to marry Anora -- and he still did. Or is that not what you meant?ejoslin wrote...
Edit: An interesting thing at this point in this conversation -- if Alistair is hardened, and you did NOT arrange for the marriage ahead of time, you can talk him into marrying Anora at this point. However, if it was arranged ahead of time, he won't marry her no matter what.
Corker wrote...
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Modifié par Sannox, 23 juin 2010 - 07:18 .
Here it is.ejoslin wrote...
Sarah1281 wrote...
You have just inspired me to write a one-shot at some point (maybe Wednesday?) where the Warden has to quit because she's pregnant and since Alistair is also a Warden and thus it's highly unlikely that he'll be able to be the father it will probably have to be Zevran.ejoslin wrote...
The Shale/Zevran banters are great too. When he says he wouldn't mind if he got the femwarden pregnant... Well, hah, it doesn't go quite like that, but that's the basic upshot. Of course, in that one, if he's with a male warden, he says it's not really a concern.
*grin* If you link it, I'll read it!
I have to admit, that is my favorite romance banter.
Sarah1281 wrote...
Here it is.ejoslin wrote...
Sarah1281 wrote...
You have just inspired me to write a one-shot at some point (maybe Wednesday?) where the Warden has to quit because she's pregnant and since Alistair is also a Warden and thus it's highly unlikely that he'll be able to be the father it will probably have to be Zevran.ejoslin wrote...
The Shale/Zevran banters are great too. When he says he wouldn't mind if he got the femwarden pregnant... Well, hah, it doesn't go quite like that, but that's the basic upshot. Of course, in that one, if he's with a male warden, he says it's not really a concern.
*grin* If you link it, I'll read it!
I have to admit, that is my favorite romance banter.
I Quit the Blight.
Sarah1281 wrote...
Here it is.ejoslin wrote...
Sarah1281 wrote...
You have just inspired me to write a one-shot at some point (maybe Wednesday?) where the Warden has to quit because she's pregnant and since Alistair is also a Warden and thus it's highly unlikely that he'll be able to be the father it will probably have to be Zevran.ejoslin wrote...
The Shale/Zevran banters are great too. When he says he wouldn't mind if he got the femwarden pregnant... Well, hah, it doesn't go quite like that, but that's the basic upshot. Of course, in that one, if he's with a male warden, he says it's not really a concern.
*grin* If you link it, I'll read it!
I have to admit, that is my favorite romance banter.
I Quit the Blight.
Finally! I can add something!The Entire Goddamn Thread Contributors wrote...
Ok, here's the deal. Anyone/Everyone can copy and edit this list. Keep it snowballing.
Only rule: if the Zevthread in any way inspired the creation or continuation of a Zev-themed project, add it. (Mods made for Zevran but not inspired by this thread shouldn't be added, those go on Sresla's big list of Zev mods etc though!). =P
Can be... groups, mods, threads, fanfics, fanarts, blogs, whatever...this is what we will paste to the haters
Then when we're all good and happy let's stick it up on Sresla's group page and bring it out like crispy old photos of semi-naked grandchildren for Thanksgiving.
Links if ya got em.
The Worth of this Thread:
- Complete Zevran FAQ by Ejoslin
- Mods: ZevranASAP, ZevRING, Ejoslin's Zevran Dialogue Fix, MorGothic's Many Headmorphs & Face Tattoos, Gatekisses, Your Leliana Zevran Loop Fix, Ending Slide Show, City Elf Alienage Fix, Ruck...Zevran Changes, Weddings (WIP) by Charsen,
- Tutorials: Morgothic's Adding Face Tattoos as Presets, Module Making, Voice Generation FMOD, Morgothic's Toolset installation guide, Head morph guide, Intro to VO Dialogue Comments
- Fanart:
- Aimo: Watercolor Zevran, Alicorn comic, Missa & Zevran, Zevran and Missa, Alicorn and Princess
- Minaleth: anything in BW album, anything in flickr album,
- Kaioku: Zevran & Alley, Chains (and WIP1, WIP2),
- Aroihkin: Mark of death, Zevran and Alleyana, Zevran and Tannusen,
- soignee: WonderMissa, Missa & Charsen zoolanderified, Missa & Zevran,
- Nonivta: Missa Dwarf Approved, Well-Oiled Zevran in Old Jeans With a Frozen Margarita,
- Verly: DA Gallery, Rayne and Zevran, Veylya and Zevran Part 1, Part 2, Part 3, Part 4
- others: Brosca's Missa Janet Jackson by jenn-y, You Cannot Misplace Me by nitocris, Pirate Zevran by Elps,
- Fanfic: Jenovan (+fanart by payroo), Soignee's Dead Duster Walking, Aroihkin's "Immovable Object", Tellervo's "Chains", Sialater: The Rescue, Charnia, Murmurs, TanithAeyrs: "A Grey Warden's Honor", Sannox's Campfire Chronicles, The Hunt by Shadow of Light Dragon, Aroihkin's Kmeme Anon!Fail, Salted Butter by McChubbin, Jayelet (in spanish): Tzvi & Zevran, Historia de Kohav, Neshi una bruja diferente, I Quit the Blight by Sarah1281
- Fanvideos: Sannox's Kisses, ejoslin plays with FRAPS
- Zevrinjection Friday: 11 weeks in a row and counting. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11]
- Serious Discussions: Rinna, Taliesen, post-awakening carryover, Zevran's suicide attempt, love vs. business in the Crows, Dalish ancestry, why people kill off the assassin, Zevran fatherhood, ultimate sacrifice, Antivan society, height differences, race vs. species, healing mechanics, earring proposal, rape is not love, virginal love and so-called purity, organizational structure of the Antivan Crows, Zevran-Taliesen-Ignacio's ranks within the Crows, implications of Zevran's reaction to public kisses, possible premeditation of Rinna's death, plausibility of the Zevran epilogue in Awakening
- Not so serious discussions: shipping, anime hate, Twilight hate,
- Discovery and sharing of VO notes which clarified the intended meaning of various lines, confirmed the nature of the relationship with Taliesen, etc.
- Source of help for fans of other LIs attempting to fix their character's dialogues the way Ejoslin has (Alistair and Morrigan)
- 3 Official Bioware Employee comments.
- Unique Memes to this thread: Soignee's Barrowhand, EJ's yellow eyes/EJ pwns Madonna, Alistair's creep eyes, Alistair's School of Kids Who Can't Read Or Write Good, Zevran's Kneepads, gardening as a euphemism for sex, elf ear fun, Swimsuit edition by Sarah, infamous page 666, Pretty Pink Sparkle Princess Cousland's story by Nonvita (with art by Nonvita (IP) and Aimo), Alicorn, Aro's Ford turned to Sextiva, page 1000, Owl hair, Charsen's toolset manipulations (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
- Countless Friendships (and more?)
Modifié par Sannox, 24 juin 2010 - 04:46 .
Well, we're not really sure how the DR works but I think it involves more than just 'go to the closest fetus' because it could be someone else's and unless the ritual actually pulls the OG in then it could still kill one of the Wardnes. But of course it's not like Ahria will actually be at the fight since she'll be a few months along by then and it's a really bad idea.Sannox wrote...
Sarah1281 wrote...
Here it is.ejoslin wrote...
*grin* If you link it, I'll read it!
I have to admit, that is my favorite romance banter.
I Quit the Blight.
Aww, poor Alistair! And poor Zevran, being suspected of 'commitment issues' (she's going to get a surprise!).
It makes me wonder how that would affect the ending. Presumably, Morrigan's ritual would still work, because the conception would be later (actually, techinically not even a conception at the point - or does the battle take quite a while? I imagined it taking a day). But if the ritual wasn't done, or even if there was an embryo closer to the archdemon at death, would your warden be carrying the god-child instead of Morrigan? If so, it makes me wonder why Morrigan didn't do something to prevent a female warden becoming pregnant. Maybe she did, with her herbalism. Or maybe the chance is so slim that it wasn't an issue.
Morrigan would be bound to know about the pregnancy and have some other plan up her sleeve if the pregnancy might be a threat (possibly to do with stopping the pregnancy, or even kidnapping the baby after birth - but most likely the first I would think. And the warden would have no idea at that point).
. And thanks for bringing it up! I enjoyed the story, and it raises interesting questions).
Modifié par Sannox, 24 juin 2010 - 07:13 .
Sannox wrote...
If Morrigan isn't at the fight though, the DR still works. So it seems that distance isn't too important. The archdemon's spirit seems to 'prefer' a new conception to a fullgrown grey warden, so if there's a pregnant Morrigan somewhere out there, the warden is safe to take the killing blow.
I imagine it would probably still be the case that the archdemon would prefer the new conception to a months-old foetus,so as long as the DR had been done, Ahria's foetus wouldn't be affected. (ETA: Thinking about it, the dark ritual also doesn't take place without the warden. Either the warden does it, or persuades Alistair or Loghain. So would there be a DR at all if Ahria had left?). But if it hadn't been done, and Alistair or Loghain took the killing blow, then presumably Ahria's foetus would turn into the godbaby that Morrigan had planned.
But ... that's all probably academic, because (a) the archdemon might not be defeated without the warden and (
As for what the DR does, I imagine that it's about the conception itself, so forget what I said about that above. What draws the archdemon's spirit is the taint (from the warden's half of the conception) and the fact that it's a new conception, not the ritual, I don't think. I think the ritual is just to make sure that conception happens at that point - something that would be very unlikely otherwise.
(I haven't checked anything up, so feel free to correct me on my 'facts'. I can't remember what the archdemon's spirit is called, for start, and I know it doesn't actually 'prefer' anything, but I think you know what I mean
Modifié par Charsen, 24 juin 2010 - 08:12 .
Charsen wrote...
WIP#1 for the dwarf noble wedding. Keep in mind seriously this is just the foundation of the scene though i plan to have more after this point too.
most of the NPCs will move position, still need to add some more folks, and still need animations on everyone. chairs and nugs look purple due to the way the toolset renders area objects. hopefully i will be able to post another update today =)
The point of Morrigan's ritual would be to create a tainted child at exact this night. A naturally conceived child would be untainted and does nothing to prevent the ultimate sacrifice.Sannox wrote...
Aww, poor Alistair! And poor Zevran, being suspected of 'commitment issues' (she's going to get a surprise!).
It makes me wonder how that would affect the ending. Presumably, Morrigan's ritual would still work, because the conception would be later (actually, techinically not even a conception at the point - or does the battle take quite a while? I imagined it taking a day). But if the ritual wasn't done, or even if there was an embryo closer to the archdemon at death, would your warden be carrying the god-child instead of Morrigan? If so, it makes me wonder why Morrigan didn't do something to prevent a female warden becoming pregnant. Maybe she did, with her herbalism. Or maybe the chance is so slim that it wasn't an issue.
Modifié par klarabella, 24 juin 2010 - 09:36 .
klarabella wrote...
The point of Morrigan's ritual would be to create a tainted child at exact this night. A naturally conceived child would be untainted and does nothing to prevent the ultimate sacrifice.
The child of a Grey Warden is a normal child. There's the theory that Alistair is the child of a Grey Warden mage.Nilfalasiel wrote...
Would a normally conceived child with at least one Grey Warden parent be untainted though? I thought the whole point in having a Grey Warden be involved in the ceremony was to transmit the taint to the child. So that would mean that any child born of at least one Grey Warden would already be tainted. I also thought that the ritual was to make the conception 100% guaranteed, since Grey Wardens had such difficulty to conceive naturally. It could also somehow make the child more receptive than a naturally conceived one, so that the Archdemon would "prefer" it to any other vessel.
klarabella wrote...
The child of a Grey Warden is a normal child. There's the theory that Alistair is the child of a Grey Warden mage.
Isn't he the child of a sculliery maid...?
That's what he believes.Nilfalasiel wrote...
The theory is based on The Calling.I could look up the posts where David Gaider confirmed that Grey Warden children are a rare occasion but perfectly normal.Nilfalasiel wrote...
Also, that's not really an argument for the child of a Grey Warden being normal, since Alistair ends up becoming a Grey Warden too...
klarabella wrote...
I could look up the posts where David Gaider confirmed that Grey Warden children are a rare occasion but perfectly normal.Nilfalasiel wrote...
Also, that's not really an argument for the child of a Grey Warden being normal, since Alistair ends up becoming a Grey Warden too...
David Gaider wrote...
A Grey Warden can have a child... just not with another Grey Warden. So in the case of Alistair being married to a female PC the only possible result is no heir (unless Alistair has a child with someone other than his wife, I suppose). Grey Wardens have a limited chance of conception with a non-Grey Warden, but it does happen... and the child is not tainted in any fashion.
Insofar as how long a Grey Warden could remain on the throne, it depends. The taint will make a Grey Warden age faster, so someone like Loghain isn't going to be able to stay a Grey Warden for very long as he's no young man. The "thirty years" quote is about the maximum, but the reality is that it depends on how often one is exposed to the corruption and sometimes just personal variance-- even so, for a monarch to stay on the throne upwards of thirty years is no mean feat. I don't really think that's the limiting factor when it comes to this sort of thing.
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