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[Aroihkin]

Oh, yeah, that came out today didn't it? ...lol.

Edit: Oh of all the--

Modifié par Aroihkin, 08 juillet 2010 - 02:56 .

[SurrealSadi]

Yes, it did. I was surprised when I started DA:O this morning and got a "Software update available". I thought the major patch they've mentioned was out. Nope. Just trophies for the new DLC <.<

[Cuddlezarro]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

What about Loghain and ( since I know you have a dwarf ) Bhelen?

Btw. In fallout 3 which companion(s) do you use?

Iv killed Bhelen all of once out of my many many playthroughs

Loghain is now pretty much in my party sinceiv grown to hate Alistair with each new playthrough (though I havnt played in ages)

as for FO3 Dogmeat,Jehricho or whatever his name is and a baby deathclaw =3

[Costin_Razvan]

A baby deathclaw? How does that happen?

[Cuddlezarro]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

A baby deathclaw? How does that happen?

mods the things only about 40% a normal deathclaws size and carries crap for me... and kicks ass in fights =3

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 08 juillet 2010 - 03:51 .

[sami jo]

Finished it. I am underwhelmed. The armor doesn't even have a new texture and isn't as good as Felon's coat. It's glitchy (surprise!) and I definitely will not be playing it again. The whole bit at the end about this being a bard's song and therefore changeable doesn't cut it for me. I like her even less now.



But it did distract me from the fact that I feel like I am living in a rice steamer for a bit.

[SurrealSadi]

sami jo wrote...

Finished it. I am underwhelmed. The armor doesn't even have a new texture and isn't as good as Felon's coat. It's glitchy (surprise!) and I definitely will not be playing it again. The whole bit at the end about this being a bard's song and therefore changeable doesn't cut it for me. I like her even less now.

But it did distract me from the fact that I feel like I am living in a rice steamer for a bit.

I didn't want to play it to begin with. Now I REALLY don't.

I know the feeling. Thankfully it's been so sunny that by 2pm the moisture in the lower atmosphere has been burned off. Right now(1:20 AM) it's 75F.... 

[sami jo]

Ooooh Nonvita.....I found a way for Princess to make her entire party pink! Mod found here.

[Aroihkin]

sami jo wrote...

Finished it. I am underwhelmed. The armor doesn't even have a new texture and isn't as good as Felon's coat. It's glitchy (surprise!) and I definitely will not be playing it again. The whole bit at the end about this being a bard's song and therefore changeable doesn't cut it for me. I like her even less now.

But it did distract me from the fact that I feel like I am living in a rice steamer for a bit.

Spared me from having to try it out, haha.

Now I kind of hope they don't touch Zevran with this garbage.

As delicious as simply having more footage and voice-overs of him would be, I'm not sure it'd be worth the rage...

[Costin_Razvan]

Well you know Zevran DOESN'T specify where they kill that Merchant, so they could very well use that as an excuse to put him in Fereldan....bull**** I say.

I would however hope for a Sten, Anders, Oghren DLC, as the important part of their lives takes place in Fereldan. Imagine playing as Anders as he tries to escape the Circle and winds up in Amaranthine!

Truthfully I would hope for a Loghain DLC related to the first book! We could see Maric and Rowan, the battles of West Hill and River Dane and the what took place between the two battles.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 juillet 2010 - 07:00 .

[sami jo]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Well you know Zevran DOESN'T specify where they kill that Merchant, so they could very well use that as an excuse to put him in Fereldan....bull**** I say.

I would however hope for a Sten, Anders, Oghren DLC, as the important part of their lives takes place in Fereldan. Imagine playing as Anders as he tries to escape the Circle and winds up in Amaranthine!

Truthfully I would hope for a Loghain DLC related to the first book! We could see Maric and Rowan, the battles of West Hill and River Dane and the what took place between the two battles.

If they aren't going to put out anything that relates directly to the original campaign, then yes, I'd like to see something from the books.  Though, given that they have been putting their newbie writers on the DLCs, I shudder to think what they would do with those characters.  I begin to wonder if they have even played through their own game with some of the stuff that is in the DLCs.

[Nilfalasiel]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

Well you know Zevran DOESN'T specify where they kill that Merchant, so they could very well use that as an excuse to put him in Fereldan....bull**** I say.

I would however hope for a Sten, Anders, Oghren DLC, as the important part of their lives takes place in Fereldan. Imagine playing as Anders as he tries to escape the Circle and winds up in Amaranthine!

Truthfully I would hope for a Loghain DLC related to the first book! We could see Maric and Rowan, the battles of West Hill and River Dane and the what took place between the two battles.

Not to be a party-pooper, but I don't see them making DLC for any of the Awakening companions, simply because so many people don't care about them. I'm not even certain they're going to make DLC for all the Origins companions, so Awakening seems like too big of a stretch to me. Much as I would love to see a Shale DLC about her time as a dwarf, she's already a DLC character; the chances of her receiving another DLC are slim at best. Same for Loghain: a DLC for him could be interesting, but I don't think that many people trade Alistair for him other than for the sake of curiosity at seeing the ending with him/getting achievements.

I'm not even sure they're going to do a Zevran DLC: he's rather far from being everybody's favourite companion, unfortunately.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 08 juillet 2010 - 09:31 .

[Aroihkin]

I'd say it's fortunate, considering how crappy the DLCs have been getting.

[Costin_Razvan]

Not to be a party-pooper, but I don't see them making DLC for any of the Awakening companions, simply because so many people don't care about them. I'm not even certain they're going to make DLC for all the Origins companions, so Awakening seems like too big of a stretch to me. Much as I would love to see a Shale DLC about her time as a dwarf, she's already a DLC character; the chances of her receiving another DLC are slim at best. Same for Loghain: a DLC for him could be interesting, but I don't think that many people trade Alistair for him other than for the sake of curiosity at seeing the ending with him/getting achievements.

I'm not even sure they're going to do a Zevran DLC: he's rather far from being everybody's favourite companion, unfortunately.

Leliana isn't exactly a favorite either. She isn't hated by many people but she isn't liked either. Morrigan and Alistair are at the top for most, followed by Oghren and/or Sten.

As for a Loghain DLC, while I agree he is one of the most disliked character by most people I think quite a big number of people would like to see Maric, Rowan and the Rebellion in the game even if that meant playing from Loghain's perspective.

   Though, given that they have been putting their newbie writers on the DLCs

I disagree that the DLCs are poorly written. Certainly there was little actual writing in RTO  but I think it was good ( especially Loghain + Wynne. ). Darkspawn Chronicles is possibly for the lulz, but it might that Alistair would actually do those choices if he was in charge.

As for Leliana's Song, aside from the fact the ending part where you go after Raleigh and Marjolaine has a bad reason and is just for getting revenge - Apparently Bioware writers think that getting revenge is awesome, and that you need to be somewhat insane to spare Loghain ( or so I gather from Mary Kirby's words, that you don't have to be completely insane to spare him, that you sparing Loghain is somewhat insane in nature) - the rest is well written. The choice for it to be set in Fereldan was not done by the writers, but they did do a good job at creating the story.

Honestly. I wish Bioware would stop with the whole revenge ****. I don't believe in it. ( though of course many others do so it's good for sales right? )

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 juillet 2010 - 01:03 .

[Brockololly]

I'll be the Paul Revere of the forums and spread the DA2 news, for
better or worse:

http://gameinformer....0_Revealed.aspx

http://kotaku.com/55...an-all new-game

Quoted from Game Informer: "Dragon Age II is a full-fledged sequel, featuring anew hero, a different part of the world, and a ton of surprising improvements that will shed even more light on the lore of the Dragon Age universe."

So it seems no Warden returning, no Ferelden. As a Morrigan fanboy (and Zevran fan) I am not too happy.


The cover:


So it looks like we're not our Warden anymore but some
dastardly evil dude is still killing darkspawn.....*facepalm* Ugh....

Modifié par Brockololly, 08 juillet 2010 - 12:56 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

As for a Loghain DLC, while I agree he is one of the most disliked character by most people I think quite a big number of people would like to see Maric, Rowan and the Rebellion in the game even if that meant playing from Loghain's perspective.

Those who have read the books would, yes, but are there really that many people who have?

I disagree that the DLCs are poorly written. Certainly there was little actual writing in RTO  but I think it was good ( especially Loghain + Wynne).

I've heard quite a few people complaining that the RTO interactions were OOC. In particular, Wynne, when she tells Alistair she's slept with younger men before. I've heard that one, and it was really jarring. People have also been surprised that Zevran suggests just leaving Cailan's body there. I actually didn't bring him along for RTO just to avoid that.

As for Leliana's Song, aside from the fact the ending part where you go after Raleigh and Marjolaine has a bad reason and is just for getting revenge - Apparently Bioware writers think that getting revenge is awesome, and that you need to be somewhat insane to spare Loghain ( or so I gather from Mary Kirby's words, that you don't have to be completely insane to spare him, that you sparing Loghain is somewhat insane in nature) - the rest is well written. The choice for it to be set in Fereldan was not done by the writers, but they did do a good job at creating the story.

My ideal ending for DA:O would've been to induct Loghain and make him kill the Archdemon. He keeps saying that all he's ever done was to protect Ferelden: what better way to prove it and go out with at least a little bit of honour?

But when push comes to shove, I prefer Alistair to Loghain, and I really dislike Anora. So Loghain dies.

As for the fact that DA2 is about a different character: haven't we known this for a while already? I'm pretty sure it's been said before that the Warden wasn't returning for DA2. I still think they should bring up Morrigan's baby in some way, but that's still possible without the Warden returning.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 08 juillet 2010 - 01:23 .

[Minaleth]

I have no problem if DA II : Whatever is different story, if it's good one.
Origins have an end, it's story with a closure (depends on the decisions but many of them fell like closure). Imo Awakening shouldn't exist nevertheless be a story of the same Warden, bad idea. The only true potential for sequel after Origins is the Dark ritual. And it doesn't need the same hero to get rolling.

But well yes, in a way it's disappointing. If the Origins story was just a beginning of something bigger and clearly centered around the Warden with open end (like the one in Awakening), it would be different situation and we could get series of adventures with the same Warden, potentially also companions. That would be awesome, but Origins is not like this. Hence I sort of prefer new story in the sequel.

Modifié par Minaleth, 08 juillet 2010 - 01:45 .

[Costin_Razvan]

People have also been surprised that Zevran suggests just leaving Cailan's body there. I actually didn't bring him along for RTO just to avoid that.

That idiot is responsible for the deaths of thousands in my eyes. I honestly suggested it myself when I first went there, but Loghain shut that down quickly for a good reason, though honestly from what I remember he disapproves if you let Cailan there ( though that might be my bad memory ).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 juillet 2010 - 01:52 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

That idiot is responsible for the deaths of thousands in my eyes. I honestly suggested it myself when I first went there, but Loghain shut that down quickly for a good reason, though honestly from what I remember he disapproves if you let Cailan there ( though that might be my bad memory ).

Idiot or no idiot, he's dead. Leaving him strung up on top of a castle wall isn't going to do anybody any good, it certainly won't bring back the people who died at Ostagar, and it isn't going to teach him a lesson. Had it been Loghain's body, I still would've taken it down. It's an unnecessary display of cruelty.

As for who's responsible for the deaths at Ostagar, I think Loghain is the greater offender of the two. Cailan may have been misguided in thinking he could overcome the Blight, but he didn't leave the battlefield with a regiment of perfectly valid men.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 08 juillet 2010 - 02:11 .

[Herr Uhl]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Idiot or no idiot, he's dead. Leaving him strung up on top of a castle wall isn't going to do anybody any good, and it certainly won't bring back the people who died at Ostagar. Had it been Loghain's body, I still would've taken it down.

I think that the crows would appreciate it.

[Nilfalasiel]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Idiot or no idiot, he's dead. Leaving him strung up on top of a castle wall isn't going to do anybody any good, and it certainly won't bring back the people who died at Ostagar. Had it been Loghain's body, I still would've taken it down.

I think that the crows would appreciate it.

That's a different can o' worms. But leaving his body there serves no practical purpose. Zev supposedly appreciates practicality, doesn't he? Besides, he's not with the Crows anymore at that point.

[soignee]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Idiot or no idiot, he's dead. Leaving him strung up on top of a castle wall isn't going to do anybody any good, and it certainly won't bring back the people who died at Ostagar. Had it been Loghain's body, I still would've taken it down.

I think that the crows would appreciate it.

That's a different can o' worms. But leaving his body there serves no practical purpose. Zev supposedly appreciates practicality, doesn't he? Besides, he's not with the Crows anymore at that point.

Cawww?

[Costin_Razvan]

Idiot or no idiot, he's dead. Leaving him strung up on top of a castle wall isn't going to do anybody any good, it certainly won't bring back the people who died at Ostagar, and it isn't going to teach him a lesson. Had it been Loghain's body, I still would've taken it down. It's an unnecessary display of cruelty.

As for who's responsible for the deaths at Ostagar, I think Loghain is the greater offender of the two. Cailan may have been misguided in thinking he could overcome the Blight, but he didn't leave the battlefield with a regiment of perfectly valid men.

I don't want to start another Loghain debate, not here. But MY opinion is that Cailan was the one fully responsible for the defeat at Ostagar and even if Loghain had charged they still would have lost.

Again this is my personal opinion, and it colors my views on Cailan. He isn't just a simple idiot. He is a glory seeking idiot who doomed thousands of people to their deaths.

Taking him down in my opinion is a gesture of respect and I find impossible to find any ounce of respect for a man willing to sacrifice thousands of men for his personal glory and unwilling to listen to strategic advice. These type of people have been responsible for dooming kingdoms in human history.

As for Zevran and RTO. I just loaded a save and left the body there with only Zevran in my part. He does approve but he doesn't encourage leaving Cailan there through his words.

Though honestly are surprised? It's easy to get stuck on the idea Zevran has some very high moral qualms. He does not, but he is against needless slaughter ( or what he perceives as needless slaughter ) like the Mages and Dalish but he also is the one to suggest keeping the Anvil. I find it in character for Zevran to approve of Cailan staying there for he is at least even partially responsible for the deaths at Ostagar. ( Regardless of what one might feel about Loghain, Cailan was in charge at Ostagar. The fact Loghain betrayed the king could mean very little ).

Again, this is just my personal opinion. But I think the deaths at Ostagar were needless, and Zevran might just think that too, hence why he approves of leaving the man responsible and in command for the crows.

 Zev supposedly appreciates practicality, doesn't he?

If practicality is what you are going for, then let me say that's it is far more practical to leave the body then bother wasting the time to take it down.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 juillet 2010 - 02:26 .

[Nilfalasiel]

soignee wrote...

Cawww?

LOL.

Ok, I feel reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally stupid now.

Here goes my DERP moment of the day!  

EDIT: I'll post the rest separately.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 08 juillet 2010 - 03:08 .

[Corker]

soignee wrote...

Cawww?

As I was walking all alane,
I heard twa corbies making a mane;
The tane unto the t'other say,
'Where sall we gang and dine to-day,
Where sall we gang and dine to-day?'

'In behint yon auld fail ******,
I wot there lies a new slain knight;
And naebody kens that he lies there,
But his hawk, his honnd, and lady fair,
His hawk, his honnd, and lady fair

("Twa Corbies," old Scots ballad, not mine!)

Modifié par Corker, 08 juillet 2010 - 02:27 .