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[Sresla]

I guess I am in the minority - I liked Leliana's Song, overall. I liked that it was story driven and dialogue heavy. Sure, the details didn't ring 100% true to what you (the Warden) was told but I don't think I was that surprised by it. Heck - I think they did a better job with engaging me with their small cast of supporting characters in Leliana's Song than they did with Awakenings.

I might be too forgiving of DLC. I've pretty much liked everything they've shipped - I even liked Darkspawn Chronicles up until the Alienage, but it probably rates lowest since I can't (and won't) ever be able to finish it (bye $5). I think RTO is better if you do it very early on in the game (very - like... post-Lothering, pre-Treaties). Stone Prisoner, well... Shale is brilliant but I'm glad I got the deluxe version when it was on sale because I might think $15 is too much if it was separate. Feastday? Hell yes. $3 is cheap for the inspiration it provided (YMMV drastically on that one). Warden's Keep, also alright. Chance that some creepy old guy might be able to cure me? Wants me to drink something nasty as a test? Sure - I've put worse things in my mouth, as the priestess so famously said to the handsome actor.

But yes, wary of anything that might be Zevran oriented. Hated Awakenings. I actually don't think I need "closure" in the Zevran department, too much canon makes my imagination

(I couldn't pick just one - from the 'Darkspawn' series!)

Modifié par Sresla, 08 juillet 2010 - 07:25 .

[soignee]

I liked Leliana's song. One day I will romance her, honest.



Not got darkspawn chronicles but since I brought too many biowarepoints yesterday, might as well.

[ejoslin]

This will sound weird, but I'm kind of glad that they're not continuing the story of "my" warden. This way, I can write my own ending for my warden.



I will eventually get the Leliana song DLC, but maybe when they release all DLCs as a complete package. One advantage to missing a few years of gaming is that some fabulous games are now bargain basement, and it's hard for me to justify spending $7 for a 2 hour DLC when I just spent $20 on a game I can tell will probably take me over 100 hours (and will have replayability). Then next in line will be a $9.99 game which I may love and may hate, but will definitely take me over 3 hours to decide.



THEN I still have ME1 to play, which I haven't been able to get into. So by the time I get to ME2, that will probably be bargain basement. It may be 2015 before I catch up on games, and if I'm lucky, I won't need to do many upgrades to my computer to play them (maybe a video card and a new power supply to drive it).



The witcher is absolutely gorgeous with the high res mods. I mean, absolutely insanely beautiful (though Triss's jiggling boobs were a bit overdone). I'm still getting the feel of it, but the people in it do seem real.



My point? I have none, but it's nice having a day where I actually can sit at my computer!

[Cuddlezarro]

Ej you playing the witcher with Polish voices BTW?



because to be honest I dont think it feels right to play the game in any other language than its native one (that and I found the english voices horrible)

[Costin_Razvan]

The english voice actor for Geralt is awesome, that's what I think.



Not all of us know Polish you know, though I guess you can just simply install Polish VO and Enligh subtitles

[ejoslin]

Heh, no, I most definitely am not. It never really occured to me to play it in anything BUT with the English voices. So far, though, I like the voices, though the VA is not as good as DA for sure (but much better than some other games I've played).



Really, playing in the native language would be lost on me since I'd be reading the subtitles anyway. Weird thing; I hate English dubs in movies, but that's because usually the emotion is way off. Probably the same thing in video games, but not as pronounced. Really, since I'm used to text "voices" in games, as long as the VO is reasonable, I'm not complaining.

[Cuddlezarro]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The english voice actor for Geralt is awesome, that's what I think.

Not all of us know Polish you know, though I guess you can just simply install Polish VO and Enligh subtitles

who said I know polish?

and I find polish VO with english subs more immersive considering  thats what it was originally suppossed to be in

and unlike japanese voice acting it doenst drive me up the wall

[sami jo]

ejoslin wrote...

I got the enhanced edition, and you're right, I got it from Steam. I'm not sure I could even have gotten the default game -- it was only $20 (I figured I couldn't go wrong). I love Steam; no disks, unlimited installs, and good download speeds. Oblivion mods had issues, but it seems they learned from that.

Thank you for the links! The game looks gorgeous to me as is (at 1920x1080), so even more gorgeous is a good thing.

Edit: As a complete aside, is Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic worth playing?  Gah, I missed so many games since having kids (and getting lost in EQ and then EQ2)  I have no idea about most games since FF7!

KOTORI was a great game.  KOTORII with the restoration project mods is also fantastic.  I'm currently replaying both.  I got the first one for PC bundled with four other "best of Star Wars PC" games for a whopping $20.  I played both of them on the Xbox half a dozen times before getting the PC versions.

[Arundor]

Apparently you have to play a predefined character in Dragon Age 2. You can choose gender and name, but your race, origin and surname are all predefined.

At least for now I think I'll pretend it isn't happening. I might be happier that way.

[Sarah1281]

Well, it's not like you got to choose your surname in DA, either. They had a set one for each origin even if only the noble ones actually were said.

[sami jo]

Arundor wrote...

Apparently you have to play a predefined character in Dragon Age 2. You can choose gender and name, but your race, origin and surname are all predefined.

At least for now I think I'll pretend it isn't happening. I might be happier that way.

I'm not surprised with all that has been said by devs about the cost of making it as open-ended as DA and all the screaming about how people wanted their character fully voice acted as ME was. (I'd really prefer to not have my character voiced, but I am clearly in the minority). 

[ejoslin]

@sami jo, I bought it for $10 it's not much of a risk, though by the time I get to playing it it may be down to $5.

@Arundor DA 2 is coming out quite a bit sooner than I expected it to. My guess is our character won't be a warden; I'm hoping that our save from the end of Origins can be used in some minor way, but given how quickly this is coming out, I don't know. Awakening was in development for, what, a year? A bit more? So this one will be out a year after that? I'm hoping it doesn't feel as rushed as Awakening did.

It could be good, however. It would have to be a completely different story, though, with just things about the wardens, about the blight, whatever, on the periphery. Though I must admit, I'm disappointed that my character HAS to be a human, if it means for a better story given time constraints, it could be ok.

Edit: The thing that makes me most nervous is it looks like they want to make DA 2 more action oriented.  There are so many action oriented games out there.  I just am hoping it's done well.  I've pretty much decided not to preorder -- I want to see what the reviews say first.

Modifié par ejoslin, 08 juillet 2010 - 08:58 .

[Corker]

Just from a technical point of view, I never really expected much of DAO to port over. There are too many options to cover, and it looked like no matter which way you jumped, Ferelden was going to be without a smooth succession, paving the way for a nice little civil war. I thought maybe the DR might port, but... that's almost two separate games, don't you think? If the Old God Baby is as earth-shaking as such a being ought to be, how would you write something that can accommodate both its presence and its absence? I have no idea, myself.

[sami jo]

ejoslin wrote...

@sami jo, I bought it for $10 it's not much of a risk, though by the time I get to playing it it may be down to $5.

@Arundor DA 2 is coming out quite a bit sooner than I expected it to. My guess is our character won't be a warden; I'm hoping that our save from the end of Origins can be used in some minor way, but given how quickly this is coming out, I don't know. Awakening was in development for, what, a year? A bit more? So this one will be out a year after that? I'm hoping it doesn't feel as rushed as Awakening did.

It could be good, however. It would have to be a completely different story, though, with just things about the wardens, about the blight, whatever, on the periphery. Though I must admit, I'm disappointed that my character HAS to be a human, if it means for a better story given time constraints, it could be ok.

Edit: The thing that makes me most nervous is it looks like they want to make DA 2 more action oriented.  There are so many action oriented games out there.  I just am hoping it's done well.  I've pretty much decided not to preorder -- I want to see what the reviews say first.

Well, the original writing team is on this, and they were not on Awakening, so they have had more time to work on it than a year, but yes, I suspect it will have a far smaller scope and far fewer choices than DAO.  I'm not a huge fan of ME/ME2.  They are ok, but they are very light on the RPG elements, and that seems to be what they are aiming for with the DA series now.  I'll reserve judgement until we hear more and the game is actually out, but I suspect this will be a "wait to purchase" thing like ME2 was.

[Costin_Razvan]

What do RPG elements mean for you in ME2? Choices? You have them. Although they don't affect your story in general ( you will still win no matter what unless you are a complete idiot or do it on purpose but this also works for Dragon Age: Origins.).

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 juillet 2010 - 09:27 .

[Cuddlezarro]

I dont see how they could focus more on action in DA2 than in DAO already considering Origins had a metric **** ton of combat already seriously Origins was not even remotly combat light in the slightest

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 08 juillet 2010 - 09:44 .

[Arundor]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

I dont see how they could focus more on action in DA2 than in DAO already considering Origins had a metric **** ton of combat already seriously Origins was not even remotly combat light in the slightest

Most likely they're talking about the entire combat system, as opposed to the quantity of combat.

If past experiences are any indication, this probably means they're doing away with some of the strategic choices in selecting an appropriate combation of talents for your character, and instead focusing on player skills like mouse precision and reflexes. Perhaps like the transition from ME1 to ME2.

[Jaulen]

*shudder*



I'm okay not playing my Warden(s).

A little weirded out of the whole playing a person wit hthe name of Hawke (can we say cheesy romance novel name??)

Hoping they don't change combat style to turn based, or player skills and reflexes too much (that would really suck, give me a Wii for that instead of a mouse).

Hoping we still get compatriots to interact with.....if it's single player no party members to support and help me, well then.....

Not happy with having to play a human, foudn my human PC in DA:O my least immersive.



And REALLY hoping it's not anime style animation like in the art and the mag cover....that would REALLY REALLY suck.



Okay, enough to say I'll be waiting to see if I purchase DA2. (Still haven't and probably will never purchase Awakenings for the PC)

[Cuddlezarro]

Arundor wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

I dont see how they could focus more on action in DA2 than in DAO already considering Origins had a metric **** ton of combat already seriously Origins was not even remotly combat light in the slightest

Most likely they're talking about the entire combat system, as opposed to the quantity of combat.

If past experiences are any indication, this probably means they're doing away with some of the strategic choices in selecting an appropriate combation of talents for your character, and instead focusing on player skills like mouse precision and reflexes. Perhaps like the transition from ME1 to ME2.

ME1's combat system was trash compared to ME2 though =/

plus Dragon ages combat while fun...wasnt exactly the deepest combat system iv every played I wouldent be surprised if it

also since when could you not have more focus on mouse precision and reflex's and using the right talents at the right time? because RTS games do that all the times

[Arundor]

Matter of opinion. I personally found ME1 far superior.


And it's just speculation, but I'm thinking they will force the action in DA2, as that's what the mainstream seems to expect. In DA1 you could pause, reflexes were not an issue. It was a matter of strategy and planning. Choose appropriate talents, observe the tactical situation, and decide on a proper strategy for the circumstances. With pausing you could have as long as you needed to plan.

In a game where they tout lots of action, I'm guessing they'll do away with the strategic planning. It's still an RPG so I would hope they don't water down the strategic elements too much, but they might bring in some reflexive or timing-based techniques like combat from The Witcher, or Assassin's Creed.

Modifié par Arundor, 08 juillet 2010 - 10:28 .

[Cuddlezarro]

I found ME1 to be complete crap



also Dragon ages combat summed up in a nut shell



get mage use CC spell on lump of enemies, demolish enemy rince and repeat for the billions of filler combat encounters



I liked it but seriously it was not that deep and dont say its not like that on higher difficulties either because it was (and this is coming from some one who plays on nightmare with difficulty mods and STILL finds it to easy)

[Arundor]

Not disagreeing. I too could argue that DA is simple in comparison to some games. The point was that it does have more strategic elements than most so-called next-gen games.

What I was trying to do was provide a possible explanation for how DA2 could have "more action". It's an established trend for "next-gen" games to reduce whatever stragetic elements do exist, amp up the reflex-based mechanics and refer to it as "fast paced action".

Modifié par Arundor, 08 juillet 2010 - 10:55 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

I found ME1 to be complete crap

While I agree it was a bull**** system for a shooter, especially compared to ME2. I really liked it at the time I got it, because I always wanted to play a shooter/RPG hybrid. ( honestly playing KOTOR with a lightsaber was awesome, but using your blaster using companions was crap as hell )

I do like ME2 system a lot more though

[Cuddlezarro]

my biggest hatred for ME1's combat... the sniper rifle

I love sniper rifles but ugh trying to use it in ME1 was... ugh

edit: oh and the Mako... I HATE that thing... that thing should be renamed "drunk driving simulator"

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 08 juillet 2010 - 11:04 .

[Costin_Razvan]

Ok. I agree on that account Cuddle.

But honestly using an Assault Rifle or Shotugn in ME1 wasn't bad at all.

 edit: oh and the Mako... I HATE that thing... that thing should be renamed "drunk driving simulator"

I only played Mass Effect 1 on the PC....my brother got it on the Xbox said it was crap as hell. I never quite understand what's so bad about controlling it honestly. It handles decently on the PC.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 08 juillet 2010 - 11:06 .