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[Cuddlezarro]

im not a big fan of assault rifles or shotties in either ME game... though I havnt tried vanguard yet (to busy fun playing an infiltrator)



also Michael jackson with boobs has freakish derp derp eyes

[sami jo]

Truthfully, if they go to a more ME-style (no pausing, no real tactical choices) style of combat, I won't buy it. I'm terrible at twitch games and have no desire to get better at them. I don't know whether it will improve their sales or not, which is, of course, their bottom line. I play for the story for the most part. I hate having to play a healer in ME, because that is the only thing I can play and not die horribly every ten minutes.

/rant =P



I'm not making any judgments until I see more. I'll probably get it at some point, but whether I get it right away, or wait until it's in the bargain bin is still up in the air. That is a little sad, really. I've always purchased every BW game the second they come out, but between the unpatched bugs in DAO and the buggy non-immersive mess that was Awakenings, I am more cautious now. I don't have $50 to spend on "meh."

[Charsen]

but ME isn't a twitch game. there's pausing, in fact, you need to pause to aim and coordinate tactics properly. =)

trust me, i play twitch games a lot... like currently me & CZ are going thru L4D and L4D2 together, and it's of course a twitch game. great fun too. but yeah ME1 and 2 are not twitch like that... you should be using your pause to control your actions in ME1 and 2, otherwise it would be too cumbersome to direct fire and also take care of the ai. XD

Modifié par Charsen, 09 juillet 2010 - 12:03 .

[Cuddlezarro]

indeed I pause god damn othen in ME2 to set up biotic combos and to tell which enemies my team mates should be going ater and who they should use there skills on

and since im on Insanity i have to plan even mroe so to get biotics and stuff to work

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 09 juillet 2010 - 12:15 .

[sami jo]

Charsen wrote...

but ME isn't a twitch game. there's pausing, in fact, you need to pause to aim and coordinate tactics properly. =)

trust me, i play twitch games a lot... like currently me & CZ are going thru L4D and L4D2 together, and it's of course a twitch game. great fun too. but yeah ME1 and 2 are not twitch like that... you should be using your pause to control your actions in ME1 and 2, otherwise it would be too cumbersome to direct fire and also take care of the ai. XD

It's close enough to twitch to thwart me. 

[Costin_Razvan]

Well apparently they are making Dragon Age 2 like that, or so it would appear I think...

I almost never pause in ME2 unless I want to switch weapons.

Honestly though. An RPG is first and foremost playing a role, not some set in the stone combat system or loot system.

Edit: A little battle in the Witcher ( spoilers ): Azar Javed's death

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 09 juillet 2010 - 03:15 .

[ejoslin]

So... Yeh... *MY* canon ending for DA:O was this avatar, HNF, married to Alistair, Zevran as her paramour, spending some time rebuilding the gray wardens but also Teyrna of Gwaren. That changed, obviously, with DA:OA. I stopped playing this character as soon as I realized that she and Alistair had somehow found true love -- I knew Zevran wouldn't be mentioned anywhere. SO anyway, I created a new canon ending based on the Awakening epilogue. My warden chased after Zevran, they confronted the crows in Antiva city, lots of blood and gore and very violent things happened but they won, and went off riding into the sunset, never to be seen again.

The good news about DA2 is, well, THAT ending should stick. I don't want to see Zevran in any DLC I don't think because I think he will be changed, and not for the better.

On another topic, I think "RPG" actually means more than just "playing a role." I mean, seriously, you could say just about any video game is an RPG using that definition -- even Mech Warrior could be called an RPG. Videogames ARE about escapism after all.

RPG is a particular genre. It used to be when I saw RPG on those old games, I knew it would be story driven and have turn based combat. Adventure games were story driven and had more hack and slash combat. Someone started calling the adventure games "adventure rpgs" and the confusion started.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 juillet 2010 - 03:43 .

[soignee]

ZEV FRIDAY EVERYONE QUICK POST STUFF!






...Let's start with Salma.
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Modifié par soignee, 09 juillet 2010 - 01:01 .

[Creature 1]

Oh hai Friday!

[soignee]

Mutya Buena! I l<3 her. No one outside of England is going to know who she is. I love her attitude in life more then anything, she used to be in Sugababes (who used to be a good pop, now not so much.)

Based Missa partly on her in looks.






...here she is when she was in the Sugababes:




Yeah I'll stop posting now >.>

[PunkNouveau13]

This thread is probably one of the reasons I look forward to Friday...Well that and I have weekends off! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]


Oh! I wanted to post my recent (like really recent since I finished it like 2 hours ago) Zevran inspired art. My husband and I randomly decided to get some canvas and paint. He was kinda 'eh' when I made no promise that it wasn't going to be Dragon age related. It's simple but you get the general idea.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

Modifié par PunkNouveau13, 09 juillet 2010 - 10:01 .

[soignee]

ohhhhh cute Punk that's really suble. Tempted to do something myself with that and the casteless brand, like... some subtle little print for something.

[ejoslin]

Is crying and whining too much all over the forums.

I'm not sad that I'm never going to see Zevran again. I'm sad that I'm never going to have those seriously intense moments in a video game again. And I'll feel silly for ever feeling them!

*sigh* I'm still remembering the magic of the Alistair romance. Wow. That would have been completely ruined with a VA. And Zevran -- forget about it. I'm not sure I could be sympathetic had he been just reaching out to a warden rather than ME.

The story is going to be absolutely amazing to make up for the lesser interaction. But I'm going to miss actually feeling the love (gah, and heartbreak) rather than just feeling happy or sad over what I'm watching.

We'll see what the reviews say! Meanwhile, FO:NV will be here soon! And the Witcher is pretty cool. VO doesn't have to be bad, but I'm definitely playing a game there, not living it!

Edit: And I do love it, PunkNouveaux!

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:28 .

[Costin_Razvan]

It is clear the Zevran/Alistair/Morrigan/Leliana romances were written with no-VA in mind, as such a VA for them would not work.



However, you CAN write a VA romance that is good. The Witcher has shown this.( for me at least ).

[ejoslin]

So far, and maybe it will change, I have not seen anything with the same emotional depth. I certainly haven't fallen in love, just a little, the same way I did with Alistair and Zevran. There IS romance there, well, sex at least, but not the deep, falling-in-love feeling that I got with DA:O romances.

[Costin_Razvan]

How far have you gotten in? The true romance starts with Shani at the end of chapter 2.

A little hint, when Shani asks you to invite someone to a party choose Zoltan, it will make the party have a very sweet moment between Shani and Geralt.

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:40 .

[Jaulen]

EJ - Like the first time you play through the Alistair romance and HE DUMPS YOU!!!!! I mean really heart thumping heart dropping moment.

I think I got way into the game Pretended it WAS me or different aspects of my personality in the DA world, instead of me just sitting back and playing a game.

So for me, DA was successful, it totally sucked me in to another world, like reading a book. I don't wanna play games where I feel like "Okay, gotta move Spider Man over here, make him do this, *oops* Gotta kill these baddies, make Spidy sneak over here, websling, toss a barrel at someone..." I'd much rather feel like I am in the game, not just controlling some animated avatar.

I mean heck, I fist pumped and CHEERED at 5 am during my first playthrough when I (my PC) jumped on teh head of the AD and killed it.

Modifié par Jaulen, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:44 .

[ejoslin]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

How far have you gotten in? The true romance starts with Shani at the end of chapter 2.

A little hint, when Shani asks you to invite someone to a party choose Zoltan, it will make the party have a very sweet moment between Shani and Geralt.

I guess that is kind of my point.  The sweet moments were between me (urg, I don't care if people make fun of me for this) and Zevran/Alistair/Leliana, not watching the sweet moments between the protagonist and the love interest.  I'm not there yet; I plan on spending some time this weekend doing some serious gaming so hopefully I will!

Don't get me wrong, I'm enjoying it.  And I think Geralt is sexy as hell.  But I'm not feeling like I AM him.

[ejoslin]

Jaulen wrote...

EJ - Like the first time you play through the Alistair romance and HE DUMPS YOU!!!!! I mean really heart thumping heart dropping moment.

I think I got way into the game Pretended it WAS me or different aspects of my personality in the DA world, instead of me just sitting back and playing a game.

So for me, DA was successful, it totally sucked me in to another world, like reading a book. I don't wanna play games where I feel like "Okay, gotta move Spider Man over here, make him do this, *oops* Gotta kill these baddies, make Spidy sneak over here, websling, toss a barrel at someone..." I'd much rather feel like I am in the game, not just controlling some animated avatar.

I mean heck, I fist pumped and CHEERED at 5 am during my first playthrough when I (my PC) jumped on teh head of the AD and killed it.

YES!  OMG, when Alistair dumped my warden, I sat there staring at the screen, totally disbelieving, tears running down my face.  I was so, "I think you'll be a good king," trying to maintain dignity if you can believe it!  I wanted to pick the rude comments, but my pride wouldn't let me!  This was a moment that my reactions were so, well, completely emotional.  And then afterwards, when it was done, I just sat there staring at my monitor, tears running down my face.

Hell, the only reason I got Zevran's confession and the proposal was because I rejected the earring because I was NOT going to get burned again.  But I wanted Alistair to see what he gave up!  Hahahaha!  I really wanted to kiss Zevran in front of Alistair, and asking him to the tent was the only way to get those!

As if a pixel character would care.  But I got a certain satisfaction.  And you know, though I did not do the romance with Zevran properly the first time, when he declared his feelings and offered the earring, I ALSO sat there staring at the monitor in total disbelief and cried AGAIN, but out of surprise and happiness.  And I realized that this was a man who not only offered his loyalty but his heart as well, despite it going against everything he believed.  And I couldn't help but love him for that.

No game has ever sucked me in like that. I'm not desperate, not in need of sex or love, and I don't view DA:O as a dating sim.  But wow, I know when Alistair dumped my character, I was heartbroken and was ready to leave Ferelden to the blight.  
And nothing can describe the absolute desperation I felt when Alistair did the sacrifice.  

Amazing writing.  Amazing story.  And my reactions, gah.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 juillet 2010 - 07:54 .

[Costin_Razvan]

The sweet moments were between me (urg, I don't care if people make fun of me for this) and Zevran/Alistair/Leliana,

Based on the reaction of many people who actively post on these forums, I would say that this is how they feel as well.



Me? I could care less about it.

[Arundor]

Sadly, it would appear that Hawke is fully voiced: http://gameinformer....gon-age-ii.aspx

Another nail in the coffin for being able to play your own personalized character.


Think I need go search for some Zevrinjection pics to cheer me up.

[Herr Uhl]

Arundor wrote...

Sadly, it would appear that Hawke is fully voiced: http://gameinformer....gon-age-ii.aspx

Another nail in the coffin for being able to play your own personalized character.


Think I need go search for some Zevrinjection pics to cheer me up.

Hopefully we can see the text though. Or just turn the voice off.

[ejoslin]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

The sweet moments were between me (urg, I don't care if people make fun of me for this) and Zevran/Alistair/Leliana,

Based on the reaction of many people who actively post on these forums, I would say that this is how they feel as well.

Me? I could care less about it.

Therein lies the difference.  I know the romances weren't for everyone.  I understand and respect that.  Not everyone got emotionally involved.  But this was the first game I ever played where the romances drew me in to that extent.  Absolutely crazy.  My husband got annoyed with me a couple of times, in fact, because I went on so much about Zevran.  He told me, "Would you STOP talking about that damn elf?"  *grin*

[Costin_Razvan]

The vast majority of gamers don't care about romance in video games ( many even find it disturbing ), sure it's a nice bonus and when done right is quite interesting but very few will weep about it getting changed.

And when romance is the major point of a game that keeps the forums alive, well that's a massive red flag for Bioware.

 He told me, "Would you STOP talking about that damn elf?"  *grin*

If you don't start buggering him with Geralt I would be surprised. "Laughs."

Modifié par Costin_Razvan, 09 juillet 2010 - 08:02 .

[ejoslin]

Heh, depressing quote of the day for me from another thread!

Eleinehmm wrote...

David Gaider wrote...

I understand where this sort of argument comes from, but at the same time I would caution you to be wary of what you ask for.



For Mass Effect, having a single voice for the female or male Sheppard character is not such a big deal -- we are talking about a specific human military character, one who is not really the player's own. No matter what choices you make, to some extant you are always making them on behalf of Sheppard.



If the goal is to have more customization for the character, does it follow that we should then be also trying to limit their options in favor of a more cinematic experience? Dialogue-wise, the player character is the single largest character in the game -- having even one option alone per gender/race combination would be an extraordinary amount of space (disregarding the cost of such recording alone).



Making a game more cinematic, after all, is not always necessarily the goal. You may have liked a game that was more cinematic, such as Mass Effect, but be careful of placing that same expectation on all other games. A more cinematic experience is going to come along with a lot of other trade-offs that you may not be aware you would be getting as part of the package, things that you may not want.



Or maybe I'm wrong and everyone will miss the Mass Effect style of dialogue and we'll be doing it exactly that way in DA2. I suppose it remains to be seen.





David Gaider Friday, 22 August 2008

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And yeh, I get it about the romances. But you'd be surprised at how many people love them. Normally I do NOT. I've been playing videogames since the early 80s. But this one was so amazing