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[Sarah1281]

My problem with LI is that keeping them tends to limit your choices. If you want to return to the Circle (could happen) or Orzammar then you can't really take your LI with you in my opinion. The Circle only really has room for mages/chantry personnel/templars and guests are a rarity, plus I don't Warden!Alistair or travelling-inclined! Leliana and Zevran would be happy to spend their days cooped up in a tower all day. Likewise with underground not to mention the kind of hell everyone involved would go through... Good luck trying to return to your clan with Alistair or Leliana in tow although Zevran migh be okay since at least he is an elf and his mother was Dalish.

If you want to travel or stay with the Wardens then it wouldn't be a problem but I tend to want to do what I want with the ending far more then I want to stay with a LI and so if I really wanted to return to the Circle/Orzammar/the clan then I wouldn't be willing to sacrifice that for Leliana, Zevran, or Alistair.

I guess that's part of why so many of my characters stay single...It really makes you feel heartless if you're romancing someone and they are so thrilled post-coronation and you're like "I am SO dumping you the minute this party is over."

Edit: I believe that if you're in a relationship you need to be willing to make sacrifces (within reason) for the other person and since I'm not willing to sacrifice my post-Blight plans that the available LIs can't be a part of then it just won't work out.

Modifié par Sarah1281, 09 juillet 2010 - 08:22 .

[ejoslin]

So that means there shouldn't be deep romances?

Edit: I disagree strongly.  

But remove the romance issue completely.  I've been playing video games since before that was even a possibility.  Voicing the main character means you no longer can become the main character.  I've played games where they had fabulous stories, and I played them.  However, I've also played games that had mediocre stories that drew me in because of the dialog, and none of them were voiced. 

When you have a voiced main character, you shatter any illusion that YOU are the character.  You are then guiding the character.  The voice is no longer your inner voice, but that of a voice actor.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 juillet 2010 - 09:01 .

[Sarah1281]

ejoslin wrote...

So that means there shouldn't be deep romances?

Edit: I disagree strongly.  

But remove the romance issue completely.  I've been playing video games since before that was even a possibility.  Voicing the main character means you no longer can become the main character.  I've played games where they had fabulous stories, and I played them.  However, I've also played games that had mediocre stories that drew me in because of the dialog, and none of them were voiced. 

When you have a voiced main character, you shatter any illusion that YOU are the character.  You are then guiding the character.  The voice is no longer your inner voice, but that of a voice actor.

Were you responding to me? You were the post right above mine and no one else responded so I'm going to assume that you were.

I never said anything about getting rid of romances or making them shallower. I just said why romances aren't even activated in some of my playthroughs. I fall more in love with the places and origin characters than with the LI and so if push comes to shove I'll choose the former. Having the option for romances doesn't prevent me from doing just that as I'll just ignore the fact that you could romance them.

Having a voiced main character does create limitations (once in a one-shot someone told me my Shepard was OOC and you won't get that with the Warden in DA one-shots) but I've always been able to work around them. I'll probably reserve judgement on whether this is a good or bad thing until the game actually comes out.

Off-topc: I was looking through Zevran's dialogues and when he talks about all the children born in ****houses. and was wondering..what does the mother do once she gets pregnant? Does she keep working? Is there really a market for pregnant prostitutes? Once she can't work because no one's interested or she's too far along does she just get taken care of until the baby's born?

[ejoslin]

Ok, I misunderstood you, because yes, I was responding to you.

And of course there's a market for pregnant prostitutes. Some men really get off on pregnant women. And pregnant women ARE beautiful and sexy in their own way.  It wouldn't surprise me if a pregnant woman could charge more.

Edit: My guess is they would work until they're in labor.

Modifié par ejoslin, 09 juillet 2010 - 09:16 .

[Nonvita]

I just don't understand the need for a VO. DA:O worked fine without it, and even if a portion of the fanbase complained about it, DA:O still sold far beyond expectations, so why do they think it wasn't successful enough? Maybe if it hadn't been quite as successful as it was, they might have just let it do its thing and be an old-fashioned niche RPG series, but now they see it as a potentially big franchise that they can muck around with and market as mainstream. Serious disappointment.

VO is not necessary for a main character. Bethesda's games do not have VOs for their characters, yet they are still very, very successful. From what I've gathered, New Vegas won't have PC VO either, but I don't hear a ton of b*tching and whining about that. I've never seen anything indicating that the number of people calling for VO really outweight the number who want no VO.

Some of us were waiting years for a game like DA:O. There have been other good RPGs out there, but DA:O managed to capture something different and unique--and the amount of character customization available was a large part of that. DA:O was the first time where I felt like I could really make most any character I wanted. DA2 does not look like it will do the same--how am I supposed to make both a jerk thug character and a naively
innocent paladin character with the same voice and origin?

And while we don't know everything about the game yet, I just have to say: when announcing a brand new game, shouldn't the first things you advertise be things that make your fans extremely excited so they can't wait to hear more? Right now I should be on the edge of my seat in anticipation, but I'm not, and neither are a ton of other people who really really loved DA:O. Maybe there is good to come, but I'm unconvinced.


And ejoslin, I agree with all your points about the romances. The joy, the love, the heartbreak, the feeling of being a complete jerk, those all would have been dulled if suddenly a character voice you didn't get to choose bursts in to ruin the moment. Suddenly you're just a voyeur looking on at other people's interactions, instead of feeling like it's your own story.

Blah. I need to stop ranting.

[Cuddlezarro]

ok the new DLC Armor is kicks...but the Helmet...by god the helmet is UGLY and STUPID these pics would look laods better with the beret one...











lol jack insulting Michael jackon with boobs





really Jacob you like what you see? do you have some weird terminator fetish?





I so wish i could be a pirate in this game =3

[Herr Uhl]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ok the new DLC Armor is kicks...but the Helmet...by god the helmet is UGLY and STUPID these pics would look laods better with the beret one...

But it does allow you to drink stuff.

[Charsen]

looks like fridays are floundering these days.











second one is lulzy. but artsy. still think zevran would approve.

[Cuddlezarro]

Herr Uhl wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ok the new DLC Armor is kicks...but the Helmet...by god the helmet is UGLY and STUPID these pics would look laods better with the beret one...

But it does allow you to drink stuff.

so does my beret and thank god I dont have to wear the helmet with the rest of the armor

[ejoslin]

Charsen wrote...




second one is lulzy. but artsy. still think zevran would approve.

Mmmmm, the one without the tattoo added has the most beautiful eyes.  I think I could get lost in them forever.

Modifié par ejoslin, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:01 .

[Costin_Razvan]

What mod are you using for the uniform Cuddle? I have the Beret myself. It looks out of place somewhat on a female Shepard, but it's ok.

[Arundor]

All this DA2 news is depressing. Some Zevrinjection pics for cheering up:

[Herr Uhl]

Arundor wrote...

Awesome.

[ejoslin]

Fake boobs are obviously fake. The question is, are they sexy? The rest of her looks great, however.

Edit: This is a serious question.  I know my husband hates fake boobs (I offered to get them, he was like, NOOOOOOO!) but I'm curious what other people think.

Second edit: Heh, yeh.

Modifié par ejoslin, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:42 .

[soignee]

sorry ej I could not hear you over the boobs

[Cuddlezarro]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

What mod are you using for the uniform Cuddle? I have the Beret myself. It looks out of place somewhat on a female Shepard, but it's ok.

same mod that added the beret (and i dont play femsheps and thinks it looks awesome on my character)

[Cuddlezarro]

ejoslin wrote...

Fake boobs are obviously fake. The question is, are they sexy? The rest of her looks great, however.

Edit: This is a serious question.  I know my husband hates fake boobs (I offered to get them, he was like, NOOOOOOO!) but I'm curious what other men think.

i think fake boobs look lulzy =3 then again im gay and prefer a good man ass to boobs any day

[sami jo]

I love those Charsen.



The LI's were only part of what is so immersive about this game for me. It was more all the relationships with the NPCs. It was the closest I have ever experienced in a video game to an old tabletop RPG or a good book. I'm sure DA2 will be just fine as a game. It is pretty clear that they are not aiming for the kind of experience they created with DA:O with this new game. It's disappointing, and on top of the buggy mess that was Awakenings, I admit to some nerdrage. I don't have huge amounts of time and money to spend on things like this, so I am very picky about what games I play.

[Herr Uhl]

ejoslin wrote...

Fake boobs are obviously fake. The question is, are they sexy? The rest of her looks great, however.

Edit: This is a serious question.  I know my husband hates fake boobs (I offered to get them, he was like, NOOOOOOO!) but I'm curious what other people think.

Second edit: Heh, yeh.

It isn't about the boobs, it is about the costume.

It feels weird saying that, but it is true.

[ejoslin]

Yeh, I should have asked generic people too as there are plenty of women here that like boobs as well (I edited it but too late). I think fake boobs look funny too. But a lot of women seem to have them.

[Arundor]

ejoslin wrote...

Fake boobs are obviously fake. The question is, are they sexy? The rest of her looks great, however.

Edit: This is a serious question.  I know my husband hates fake boobs (I offered to get them, he was like, NOOOOOOO!) but I'm curious what other people think.

Second edit: Heh, yeh.

To me it depends on how it's achieved. I do not find implants attractive.

Padded or stuffed clothing is okay, although I wouldn't say it's any better or worse than a natural look. Just different.

[Sarah1281]

I'm kind of oblivious so I never notice.

[Nonvita]

So I decided to get into writing fanfic, but I needed a little help. So with Soignee's aid, I wrote a beautiful love story!


A Shotgun In Time

On a creamy and hard morning, Charsen sat in the depths of their porn files. It was Valentine's Day and he was all alone. His thigh ached in sorrow for the secret love that he could never share. How could he expect CZ to love someone with a veiny finger?

Amply, he began to recite a poem he had composed. "Ah, my love is like acarved jiggly computer, all on a summer's day. I wish my CZ would UNF me, in his own rugged way..."

"Do you?" CZ sat down beside Charsen and put his hand on Charsen's bellybutton. "I think that could be arranged."

Charsen gasped deeply. "But what about my veiny finger?"

"I like it," CZ said slickly. "I think it's herbaceous."

They came together and their kiss was like the mellow smoke of a peacepipe quelling the British invasion.

"I love you," Charsen said hunkily.

"I love you too," CZ replied and UNFed him.

They bought a goat, moved in together, and lived beguilingly ever after.



<3<3<3Charsen and CZ

Modifié par Nonvita, 10 juillet 2010 - 01:52 .

[Herr Uhl]

Was it a female or male goat?

[Cuddlezarro]

a goat...what? eww