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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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#34801
Tellervo

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maradeux wrote...

hello... what a wonderful thread... *shyly looking around*...


Wonderful to have you in here!  Don't be shy, they're a decent bunch, I promise.  Just avert your eyes when Charsen gets agitated with the toolset--terrible and wonderful things happen.

Edit: Oh, are you serious...  Okay.

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Nice boots... wanna...?

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Cuddlezarro

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Tellervo wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...



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Sweet Maker that look is derpy.


well it is Michael Jackson with boobs

she still cant out derp Jacob though!

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maradeux

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Thanks for your kind welcome, Tellervo and for the greetings, Sarah.

I'm shy because of... you know... the language. I usually don't write in the English forums (just read). But I couldn't resist. That must be Zevran. Can only be his fault. :innocent:

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Herr Uhl

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maradeux wrote...

Thanks for your kind welcome, Tellervo and for the greetings, Sarah.

I'm shy because of... you know... the language. I usually don't write in the English forums (just read). But I couldn't resist. That must be Zevran. Can only be his fault. :innocent:


Many here are non-native, so it shouldn't be a problem. *is used to deciphering gibberish, granted mostly my own gibberish, but still*

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maradeux

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And where are you from, Mister Owl? ;)

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Herr Uhl

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Sweden, I've been accused of being German a couple of times though.

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maradeux

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If that's an accusation, so I confess my guilt. ;)

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And I'm used to some of the most articulate people online prefacing everything they say with "I'm not a native speaker so please ignore any mistakes." Posted Image

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Welcome, mara, don't be shy! :D


Sarah1281 wrote...

And I'm used to some of the most articulate people online prefacing everything they say with "I'm not a native speaker so please ignore any mistakes." Posted Image

I know, right?   Among other things, it makes me think that American foreign language curricula are garbage. <_<

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maradeux

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ouch! direct hit (at least the second part) :whistle:

and about the first part... you don't see me struggling through every word, every preposition, thinking about which tense might be the right one... Writing is my passion and part of my profession, but I feel uneasy in a foreign language. However I'll try not to mention it again. ok? ;)

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Guis I will draw Zevran eventually I swear to god. This time I am distracted by baby!Morrigan. And her cute little chubby cheeks. *pinches them*

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maradeux

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back to topic (or not?)

Warden Mara struggling againgst the "Fereldan" language

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Which of these "noes" might be the right "no"? I really needed some time to solve this "problem". :P


soignee wrote...

Guis I will draw Zevran eventually I
swear to god.


I'm waiting patiently. :) (Have I ever
mentioned that I don't like Morrigan? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie])

Modifié par maradeux, 27 juillet 2010 - 07:36 .


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sami jo

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Howdy Mara!



Soignee, I love it when you get distracted. Wonderful things happen.

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maradeux wrote...

back to topic (or not?)

Warden Mara struggling againgst the "Fereldan" language

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Which of these "noes" might be the right "no"? I really needed some time to solve this "problem". :P




Ha! I'm a native english speaker and I was confused on that one. If you want to start the romance, it's the bottom option. Posted Image

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Well of course. He's asking if he should refrain from calling you beautiful and the first is agreeing that that's a bad idea, the second is saying you don't really care but it won't lead to anything, and the third is giving him permission to continue.

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maradeux

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You give him the permission by saying "no"? That's funny. :o Of course I found the solution (by trying ;)), but I still find it confusing that all three answers include a "no" or "not".

Stubborn_Jelly wrote...


Ha! I'm a native english speaker and I was confused on that one.


thank you! :) Good to know that I was not the only one who was confused. :innocent:

(need a good-night-pic...) :devil:

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I must have done something wrong, because I've already collected 2 allies (Templars, Knights), but I still haven't gotten ambushed by Zevran yet. I got his introductory cutscene, but no ambush, and thus, no chance to recruit or kill him... I guess it's "No Zevran for me."

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maradeux wrote...

You give him the permission by saying "no"? That's funny. :o Of course I found the solution (by trying ;)), but I still find it confusing that all three answers include a "no" or "not".

It's the way he phrases it by saying 'Should I not?' If you agree that he shouldn't for whatever reason than you're reiterating that you don't want him to and use the no in regards to him calling you beautiful whereas for the last one you're telling him that no that wasn't what you meant.

The first one could be changed to a 'yes, don't call me that' or something similar and the last one could be left the way it is but the middle one is kind of tricky as you're saying you don't care if he says it so it's not exactly a 'yes, don't' but also telling him you're not interested so it's not a good idea which kind of a no.

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Yes, it was tricky between 2 and 3. (1 I could exclude, that was quite clear ;)). Thank you for explaining it so elaborately. Really. <3

@MKDAWUSS - sorry, I've never had this problem and can't help you. :( (don't want that you feel ignored...)

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maradeux wrote...

Yes, it was tricky between 2 and 3. (1 I could exclude, that was quite clear ;)). Thank you for explaining it so elaborytely. Really. <3

@MKDAWUSS - sorry, I've never had this problem and can't help you. :( (don't want that you feel ignored...)


I have one guess as to what the problem may have been (DLC destinations), but I wouldn't know if that was necessarily the problem.

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

maradeux wrote...

Yes, it was tricky between 2 and 3. (1 I could exclude, that was quite clear ;)). Thank you for explaining it so elaborytely. Really. <3

@MKDAWUSS - sorry, I've never had this problem and can't help you. :( (don't want that you feel ignored...)


I have one guess as to what the problem may have been (DLC destinations), but I wouldn't know if that was necessarily the problem.


:( That's depressing.  I know there is a way to force his appearance using the console, but I'll have to do some digging to find the commands.

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Hmmm... I think a few of you are missing it.



One of you mentioned that this IS a game, so you get to explore...options.



Well, my first serious character, I wound up keeping both Morr and Lel panting after my character, and it wasn't easy... at first. You have to figure 'em out. Clearly, you only have a few 'choices' for dialogue, but in some ways, it was surprisingly similar to real life. I don't suppose people would really like to know that they CAN be categorized and subverted as easily as a computer game character, but...



Leliana is really pretty simple. She needs reassurances. She wants to 'confess' for one thing or another, wants desperately to reform, wants to be a 'good girl'. Hence, the thing with flowers, wants to be a chantry sister, but wants to have fun... easy to subvert with silly 'girly' crap and sweet talk. She WANTS to believe.

The ugly thing about Leliana is that she is actually a lot like some girls... goody goody church girls. You know the type. Go to church on Sundays, very dutiful, but run off with a bad boy first chance they get. Leliana is all pretense.



Morrigan is the exact opposite of Leliana. She pretends to be 'nasty'. If you want to understand Morr, it's not 'goth/emo'. Not at all. More like Ayn Rand. Complete user, but pretty honest about it. There's no pretense at all. It's actually sort of refreshing.



Leliana is the girl that most guys wind up marrying. Morrigan is the mistress, who they leave their wives for, run to Mexico with, lose all their money, and wind up shooting themselves over.



Zevran is great. I say this, even as a het guy: when I played as an Elf Mage, I figured, well, why not? So, I went for it, covered my eyes during the 'love' scene, and followed up the dialogue afterwards. Hilarious.

Really, what's so bad about Zevran? He's a frickin' assassin. Lifespan is likely quite limited for this occupation, Zev himself admits that there's not much of a retirement plan... so, why NOT play the field? Anyway, most of his banter is just banter anyway.



However, I gotta admit... it may be that I'm a guy, and don't see it... but I do NOT see how any woman would ever think that Alistair is an attractive character. Bleh. He's so.... limp.



I mean, his big romance line is, what, 'Maker, you are beautiful'. What, that's it?!? If you're a female Warden, your job is to kill critters for a living. You would think the least Alistair would do is compliment your scars or something, rather than give you some limp peasant 'compliment'.



If you're a born homicide (isn't that part of the recruiting parameters for Junior Wardens?) you would think that silly 'flower-girl' speeches would just make you scoff. Apology? For what?

#34823
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You would think the least Alistair would do is compliment your scars or something, rather than give you some limp peasant 'compliment'.

Realism be damned, my Warden doesn't HAVE scars.

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One of my favorite things about Zev is if you're a good friend to him, or a good lover, he gets over himself. He didn't need someone to lean on, he didn't need "fixing", he just needed someone around who wouldn't judge, someone who would accept what he was, and not leave him while he sorted himself out. That's refreshing--someone who doesn't need your help.

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I just completed Tali's loyalty mission in ME2 and boy did it feel good taking Legion to the migrant fleet and then making Tali hate me



now all I have left is a bunch of sidequests to do