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Has anyone else run into trouble with the new patch and Zevring? I'm not sure if it's the patch, or me being an idiot...

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The rule is page top = picture? Good to know. ;)

sami jo wrote...

Has anyone else run into trouble with the new patch and Zevring? I'm not sure if it's the patch, or me being an idiot...


No, not with ZevRing, but with Gatekisses. I was at the gates of Denerim and... no kiss! :crying: I had to deinstall and reinstall ZDF and Gatekisses. Now it works again. (I'm so avid for this gatekiss. :wub:)

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Tellervo wrote...

One of my favorite things about Zev is if you're a good friend to him, or a good lover, he gets over himself. He didn't need someone to lean on, he didn't need "fixing", he just needed someone around who wouldn't judge, someone who would accept what he was, and not leave him while he sorted himself out. That's refreshing--someone who doesn't need your help.


This. You'd expect that, with all the Rinna crap, he'd be a gibbering mess (Alistair probably would be), but while he is definitely deeply affected by it, he just has such remarkable resilience. All you need is to give him room and perspective to think about things himself. Maybe that's why his personal quest isn't labelled as such? He doesn't actively ask you to help him, but simply plans on dealing with the situation when and if it arises. The fact that you do help him with it is more like a handy bonus, even though he does appreciate it. 

Also, maradeux, you happen to be French by any chance?

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 28 juillet 2010 - 09:13 .


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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Also, maradeux, you happen to be French by any chance?


No, unfortunately not. I'm German, sorry. :( French is my third foreign language and I like it very much. Actually I like every other language more than my own. But only in my mother tongue I can speak and write correctly. It's a dilemma. :P

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maradeux wrote...

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Also, maradeux, you happen to be French by any chance?


No, unfortunately not. I'm German, sorry. :( French is my third foreign language and I like it very much. Actually I like every other language more than my own. But only in my mother tongue I can speak and write correctly. It's a dilemma. :P


Ah oops, sorry. I took a guess based on your screenname. Was just asking because I live in France myself. Funnily enough, German is my third language. Aber mein Deutsch ist viel schlechter als mein Französisch.

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maradeux wrote...

The rule is page top = picture? Good to know. ;)

sami jo wrote...

Has anyone else run into trouble with the new patch and Zevring? I'm not sure if it's the patch, or me being an idiot...


No, not with ZevRing, but with Gatekisses. I was at the gates of Denerim and... no kiss! :crying: I had to deinstall and reinstall ZDF and Gatekisses. Now it works again. (I'm so avid for this gatekiss. :wub:)


uh oh. well i just got set up here at the new house, kinda, still somewhat living out of boxes. but lemme download the new patch this afternoon and see if i can figure out what's up. Dx

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

One of my favorite things about Zev is if you're a good friend to him, or a good lover, he gets over himself. He didn't need someone to lean on, he didn't need "fixing", he just needed someone around who wouldn't judge, someone who would accept what he was, and not leave him while he sorted himself out. That's refreshing--someone who doesn't need your help.


This. You'd expect that, with all the Rinna crap, he'd be a gibbering mess (Alistair probably would be), but while he is definitely deeply affected by it, he just has such remarkable resilience. All you need is to give him room and perspective to think about things himself. Maybe that's why his personal quest isn't labelled as such? He doesn't actively ask you to help him, but simply plans on dealing with the situation when and if it arises. The fact that you do help him with it is more like a handy bonus, even though he does appreciate it.


I guess he needs someone like the Warden, by which I mean, someone willing to give him (comparatively) safe harbor so he has time to think about those sorts of things, but not as a lover or someone there to "fix" him--it's more someone to provide the opportunity.  Does that make sense?

All that said, I think sparing him does have a profound effect, and any "fixing" on the Warden's part happens there, unintentionally, if you give Zevran the mercy and the second chance he wouldn't give Rinna.

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Nilfalasiel wrote...

Ah oops, sorry. I took a guess based on your screenname.


Well, that's comprehensible. But "maradeux" sounds better than "marazwei", doesn't it? ;)

Quelque temps j'ai ecrit mon journal intime en francais. Parce que j'ai eu un copain francais. But unfortunaltely I have forgotten large parts of the language, because that story was a long time ago and I don't need French in my everyday life. :(

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Can anyone help MKDAWUSS with his problem?

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I must have done something wrong, because I've already collected 2 allies (Templars, Knights), but I still haven't gotten ambushed by Zevran yet. I got his introductory cutscene, but no ambush, and thus, no chance to recruit or kill him... I guess it's "No Zevran for me."


Hello Charsen! :)

I wish you a good start at your new home. *insert flowers and cake here* :wizard:

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MKDAWUSS wrote...

I must have done something wrong, because I've already collected 2 allies (Templars, Knights), but I still haven't gotten ambushed by Zevran yet. I got his introductory cutscene, but no ambush, and thus, no chance to recruit or kill him... I guess it's "No Zevran for me."


Hmm, I think one thing that can override Zev's ambush is -- another scripted encounter.  Were you dragged into an encounter by someone after your second ally?  Like... I think one time I ran into that shady book dealer whose quest you may pick up in the Tower, and that somehow prevented me from getting Zevran's encounter. :(   I can't remember  what became of that, though -- whether I got Zev later, or whether I had to back up to some previous save and do something dumb. :/  I'm thinking it's the former, but I'm really not sure.

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maradeux wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I must have done something wrong, because I've already collected 2 allies (Templars, Knights), but I still haven't gotten ambushed by Zevran yet. I got his introductory cutscene, but no ambush, and thus, no chance to recruit or kill him... I guess it's "No Zevran for me."


Hello Charsen! :)
I wish you a good start at your new home. *insert flowers and cake here* :wizard:


thanks Maradeux, i am just happy the moving is done. glad to see you on the zevthread. =]  

MKDAWUSS you wouldn't by any chance have installed the zevranASAP mod after you got to Lothering would you? or any other mod that affects that encounter?

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Charsen wrote...

maradeux wrote...

The rule is page top = picture? Good to know. ;)

sami jo wrote...

Has anyone else run into trouble with the new patch and Zevring? I'm not sure if it's the patch, or me being an idiot...


No, not with ZevRing, but with Gatekisses. I was at the gates of Denerim and... no kiss! :crying: I had to deinstall and reinstall ZDF and Gatekisses. Now it works again. (I'm so avid for this gatekiss. :wub:)


uh oh. well i just got set up here at the new house, kinda, still somewhat living out of boxes. but lemme download the new patch this afternoon and see if i can figure out what's up. Dx


Glad you are safe and soundi n the new place.  The new patch seems to be making my game far more glitchy than it ever was before, so I may just roll back.  I never had problems with it crashing to desktop or crazy long load screens, or long lag for bodies to become lootable until now.  And I really despise that they took away the little floaty that told you how much experience you got from picking locks/traps/etc.  All the bugs and they choose to "fix" something that wasn't even a bug. :pinched:

/rant :P

Hope your trip went well, and just because I haven't in a while, SQUEEEEE!!! :wub::wub:

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Charsen wrote...

maradeux wrote...

MKDAWUSS wrote...

I must have done something wrong, because I've already collected 2 allies (Templars, Knights), but I still haven't gotten ambushed by Zevran yet. I got his introductory cutscene, but no ambush, and thus, no chance to recruit or kill him... I guess it's "No Zevran for me."


Hello Charsen! :)
I wish you a good start at your new home. *insert flowers and cake here* :wizard:


thanks Maradeux, i am just happy the moving is done. glad to see you on the zevthread. =]  

MKDAWUSS you wouldn't by any chance have installed the zevranASAP mod after you got to Lothering would you? or any other mod that affects that encounter?


Nope, no mods of that sort. In fact in my playthrough before this, he showed up as expected, and I didn't add/remove any mods in between those two.

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Got it working by playing around with the ol' debug script. Had to warp myself there. Fixed it for now yay.

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Glad your issue is sort-of resolved. I'd try to make it happen again, though--if it's actually a bug instead of some one off glitch, maybe it can be fixed?



Also: this thread needs more fanart.



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Delishus salad is delishus:

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And, hm, looks familiar...

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Hehe, the salad stuff is hilarious! :D

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onto the suicide mission for ME2



any ways heres how the suicide mission is gonna go...



Jacob takes a rocket to the face

Kelly gets turned into a slushie

Zaeed dies saving Chakwas

Thane gets taken by seeker swarms

Morinth gets shot

Tali dies holding the line

and Miranda dies by falling to her death



oh and my new wallpaper

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I'm working on something that isn't:

*A dwarf.

*Female

*Contains obnoxious colour and forces me to use lighting/shade with a limited colour pallete range.



Hello out of my comfort zone, pleased to meet you.



CAN YOU GUESS WHAT IT IS YET AND WHOOOOO IT'LL BE?

#34843
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If it is not a dwarf and not female either and you are the one who works on it, it can only be Zevran. :P ;)

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SO MUCH IS WRONNGGGGG. Ffffff. I know, it's rubbish =/



Stupid Zevran and his stupid hair. And face. And i have no idea what the armour is meant to be. <.<




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ack sorry for the above it's so faiiilllll. Another hour's work cleaned it up a little:



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ffff Zev ffffffffffff

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not finished but I'm done for the night. Now ready to die in Alien Swarm with CZ and Charsen.



Anyone want to play with us? it's lulzy.

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*waves hand*



I only usually have one or two to play it with. The later levels are a [female canine] in those circumstances.

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

onto the suicide mission for ME2

any ways heres how the suicide mission is gonna go...

Jacob takes a rocket to the face
Kelly gets turned into a slushie
Zaeed dies saving Chakwas
Thane gets taken by seeker swarms
Morinth gets shot
Tali dies holding the line
and Miranda dies by falling to her death


What do you mean Morinth get's shot?

#34849
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soignee wrote...
not finished but I'm done for the night. Now ready to die in Alien Swarm with CZ and Charsen.

Anyone want to play with us? it's lulzy.

Nuuu, I'm saving the galaxy! *is totally not playing 12hours straight* But they better put that damn bar on my ship in ME2 or else... ! *waits for ME2 installation to finish*

Btw the last image is beautiful and quite bold! Yay for going out of comfort zones :)
(I secretly love the little Morrigan more, she is so perfect, the picture looks just like from National gallery, lol.)

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Minaleth wrote...

soignee wrote...
not finished but I'm done for the night. Now ready to die in Alien Swarm with CZ and Charsen.

Anyone want to play with us? it's lulzy.

Nuuu, I'm saving the galaxy! *is totally not playing 12hours straight* But they better put that damn bar on my ship in ME2 or else... ! *waits for ME2 installation to finish*

Btw the last image is beautiful and quite bold! Yay for going out of comfort zones :)
(I secretly love the little Morrigan more, she is so perfect, the picture looks just like from National gallery, lol.)


Aaw thanks Mina :3

It's not even done yet. Not even 50%!  I got a lot more work to do, let's just say. there's a lot of space to fill.

When this is finished I might be brave enough to open up commissions, and hope to god people understand why they take FREAKING FOREVER.