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[Sabriana]

My rogues all become rangers (all two of them), I like the extra body in the battles. NWN2 rogues could get a pet dinosaur? What? Where? Was it in SoZ? If so, that makes sense, because I didn't really play that exp more than once.



My Zevran is always a rogue/assassin/duelist. He rips through the enemies like they were made of spun sugar. As for Leliana, my PC had to turn her down for the 2nd time in this play-through. Even with the DT fix she always thinks my PC loves her. She doesn't. She is rude to Leliana at times, although she tries to be civil. Maybe it's time to defile the ashes. I'm serious, my Leliana seems to be totally glitched. Maybe I should try a re-install. This is totally unreal.

[ejoslin]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Baren #2 is going ranger its the one spec I funnily enough havnt tried despite the fact in NWN2 I played as a ranger all the time (then again it helped that the ranger in NWN2 could get a pet dinosaur which is just awesome)

Zev tends to always end up as a assassin/Bard when ever i use him since the first bard song is just great and Leliena can go jump off a cliff

You want your cunning rogue to be your bard -- the str/dex one to be the ranger.  Since they have all those extra talent points, you can get the really deadly pets, and always have one up.

[Cuddlezarro]

My rogues all become rangers (all two of them), I like the extra body in the battles. NWN2 rogues could get a pet dinosaur? What? Where? Was it in SoZ? If so, that makes sense, because I didn't really play that exp more than once.

yes Storm of Zehir lets you get a pet dinosaur for your rangers/Druids

heres my Ranger running through Shadow Mulsantir in MoTB with his pet raptor (the things a better pet than the Druids dragon and its 100X easier to get than said dragon pet and you get it ALOT sooner as well)

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 23 février 2010 - 06:53 .

[Addai]

ejoslin wrote...

Two DW rogues work -- have one be a str/dex and use a long sword/crow dagger, the other cunning.  The advantage to the str/dex rogue is you don't have to train them in either deft hands OR the lethality tree, which frees up a lot of talent points for making them very good at DW.  You can have one be a bard, the other a ranger as well -- they complement each other nicely.

Absolutely.  My cunning-based HNF rogue plus Zevran was a deadly combination.  She was bard and duelist, though I didn't bother adding any duelist points- just didn't need them.  I had Zevran as assassin-ranger.

I do like the ranger specialization.  I find that the pets are really tough even if you only get the first two.  (It's helpful to have two in case you lose one in an area transition.)  I'm also taking your tip, ejoslin, by casting Blood Sacrifice on the pet with my blood mage.  Works great- they have good HP.

[Cuddlezarro]

here are some more random screenies of Zev and me in Orzammar as I get ready to take on Jarvia

[soignee]

Even though my Aeducan was a ranger-rogue, I couldn't take it seriously- she's a dwarf, for goodness sake. I couldn't make Zev or Leliana a ranger-rogue either, as I didn't think RP wise they could be. So I stick with my dwarves and NPCs being all stabbity stabbity.



I'll make my Dalish elf a ranger, makes sense they can summon beasts of the forest. <.<;

[Sabriana]

@ Cuddlezarro

That's awesome! You mean SoZ is backward transferable? I mean, if you have SoZ, your MotB ranger can get a pet dino? Cool. MotB ftw. That was a great exp., better than the OC imo.

*eyes video game shelf* Now where is NWN2 and its expansions?



I've only played STR/DEX rogues, so I really have to try the CUN rogue at least once. I even respec Zevran as a STR/DEX rogue, although I keep his cunning in the higher ranges for lock-picking. That goes to show you how little I know about CUN rogues. What spec goes with cunning?

[Cuddlezarro]

@ Cuddlezarro

That's awesome! You mean SoZ is backward transferable? I mean, if you have SoZ, your MotB ranger can get a pet dino? Cool. MotB ftw. That was a great exp., better than the OC imo.

*eyes video game shelf* Now where is NWN2 and its expansions?

yes all the classes/races and abilities you get in MoTB and SoZ are backwards compatible, one of my favorite playthroughs in MoTB was a Grey Orc PALADIN/Doom Guide who was called Garshul Humiesmasher, it was great complete opposite of the brutish warlike Orc stereotype

also with SoZ you can finally craft elemental enchantments onto bows so they dont suck any more

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 23 février 2010 - 07:15 .

[Sabriana]

Yay, that's great Cuddlezarro. Maybe I can play through NWN2 again for some fresh stuff. I could lay of DA:O for a while...



*is happily deluding herself*



How will you play your new Baren? Is he going to be not so torn apart as the other one?

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

@ Cuddlezarro
That's awesome! You mean SoZ is backward transferable? I mean, if you have SoZ, your MotB ranger can get a pet dino? Cool. MotB ftw. That was a great exp., better than the OC imo.
*eyes video game shelf* Now where is NWN2 and its expansions?

I've only played STR/DEX rogues, so I really have to try the CUN rogue at least once. I even respec Zevran as a STR/DEX rogue, although I keep his cunning in the higher ranges for lock-picking. That goes to show you how little I know about CUN rogues. What spec goes with cunning?

What's nice about Cunning rogue is you only need 1 or 2 levels of deft hands, but you do need lethality as well so it evens out (the rest of that tree is useless imo).  If you can get your cunning to 60, you only need the first level of deft hands.  50 you need 2 levels of it.  Bard songs are based on cunning, so they go well with a cunning rogue.  Use dual daggers -- they're far faster than a long sword/dagger combination.  Also, you don't need all four levels of coercion to still have it maxed.  A cunning rogue will do more damage than a str/dex rogue because the attacks are so much faster.  I found dex at 34 is sufficient for a cunning rogue.

Cunning, aside from giving the same attack modifier as strength when you have lethality also gives you armor penetration, so you do more damage.

The advantage to having a str/dex rogue, of course, is they can wear medium armor, can off tank far better, and you can give them starfang or some other massive damage long sword that requires higher strength. 

[soignee]

Sabriana wrote...

@ Cuddlezarro
That's awesome! You mean SoZ is backward transferable? I mean, if you have SoZ, your MotB ranger can get a pet dino? Cool. MotB ftw. That was a great exp., better than the OC imo.
*eyes video game shelf* Now where is NWN2 and its expansions?

I've only played STR/DEX rogues, so I really have to try the CUN rogue at least once. I even respec Zevran as a STR/DEX rogue, although I keep his cunning in the higher ranges for lock-picking. That goes to show you how little I know about CUN rogues. What spec goes with cunning?

Assassin/Duellist works well, make sure assassin tree is full and you have the rogue talents for imp backstabs/combat movement and all that shenanigans. Get two decent daggers and stab awayyyyy. (That's what my Brosca did, anyway.)

[ejoslin]

Ooooh, you know how we were talking about Zevran love songs awhile ago? Hah, the PERFECT Zevran-in-love breakup song -- Something I Can Never Have by Nine Inch Nails. I'm listening to that as I slug my way through the fade. Ouch!

Edit: Of course I did.

Put back up at Sabriana's request!

Modifié par ejoslin, 23 février 2010 - 07:39 .

[Cuddlezarro]

How will you play your new Baren? Is he going to be not so torn apart as
the other one?

new Baren is a complete bastard to any one but his sister so no he wont be torn up

I can foresee Alistair getting to -100 very very quickly

Zevran I can see him getting along with though, Sten and Shale as well... possibly Oghren but Oghrens not exactly a bad person and Iv gotten major approval drops from him before for being a bastard (I lost 20 approval with him for punching isolde in the face and killing conner)

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 23 février 2010 - 07:22 .

[Gilsa]

soignee wrote...

Even though my Aeducan was a ranger-rogue, I couldn't take it seriously- she's a dwarf, for goodness sake. I couldn't make Zev or Leliana a ranger-rogue either, as I didn't think RP wise they could be. So I stick with my dwarves and NPCs being all stabbity stabbity.

I'll make my Dalish elf a ranger, makes sense they can summon beasts of the forest. <.<;

You could make your Orlais dwarf a ranger since she'd be from the surface. It would give her a different flavor and could potentially make sense why she'd be different from the noble/commoner who have been underground. Just something to chew on. Planning on playing my noble first and seeing what the game is like before I decide on the class for Orlais. I am soo excited about the Orlais dwarf. Since dwarf surfacers are called sun-touched, this dwarf will be blonde. (Either that or have a very nice tan, heh.)

My first commoner was a ranger/bard and I agree, it didn't really make that much sense she'd be one. I just knew I wanted dog in my party full-time and I thought ranger + wolf pet would compliment that greatly. She sucked in the duel against Loghain. I kept stealthing to get Loghain off of me and onto my pet, but he just wouldn't budge. It was then I noticed that if I stay stealthed, Loghain stopped attacking. He didn't even acknowledge the bear that was ripping him apart. Finallly Loghain was at 0 health with no help from my ranger and I had to unstealth to trigger the "OK, you win!" cutscene. Hardest and easiest duel ever!

[Sabriana]

Thanks Soignee and Ejoslin, I'll give it a try. Sounds exiting. I have a lovely CD who is ready to be thrown into the world. She is a rogue, so I'll make her a cunning one.



Gotta find that song, Ejoslin.



*Puts on hat and slogs over to YouTube. For the umpteenth time tonight*

[soignee]

Hahah, I've redone my Brosca, and I don't know why. She was so much fun, much more then my Aeducan. I intended to reroll my Aeducan and play her like a Paris Hilton airhead (but dwarven!) Just for the lols, but haven't got around to it.



I got my Dalish and my Cousland that need love too, but Brosca is too awesome not to play again goddamn origin punches me in the stomach everytime.

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

Thanks Soignee and Ejoslin, I'll give it a try. Sounds exiting. I have a lovely CD who is ready to be thrown into the world. She is a rogue, so I'll make her a cunning one.

Gotta find that song, Ejoslin.

*Puts on hat and slogs over to YouTube. For the umpteenth time tonight*

*grin* I deleted that post, but the song is Something I Can Never Have by NiN.  Same type of, ummm, soul wrenching feeling.

[Cuddlezarro]

I my original Baren Broska playthrough most tragic of all my playthroughs easily



damnit why did this game make me like dwarves!? (though funnily enough I can never bring myself to give my dwarves a full beard)

[soignee]

Gilsa wrote...



My first commoner was a ranger/bard and I agree, it didn't really make that much sense she'd be one. I just knew I wanted dog in my party full-time and I thought ranger + wolf pet would compliment that greatly. She sucked in the duel against Loghain. I kept stealthing to get Loghain off of me and onto my pet, but he just wouldn't budge. It was then I noticed that if I stay stealthed, Loghain stopped attacking. He didn't even acknowledge the bear that was ripping him apart. Finallly Loghain was at 0 health with no help from my ranger and I had to unstealth to trigger the "OK, you win!" cutscene. Hardest and easiest duel ever!

Really? my ranger rogue ripped him to shreads, thanks to the dire wolf overwhelming/charging him straight away, and I stunned him down. I was a ranger/duel weaps hander though; I was a str/dex rogue with the DW tree half full, had dire pets (just used wolf, as it had same abilities as your mabari) and just killed him. I sat there stunned he went down so easily D:

Modifié par soignee, 23 février 2010 - 07:31 .

[Addai]

soignee wrote...

Even though my Aeducan was a ranger-rogue, I couldn't take it seriously- she's a dwarf, for goodness sake. I couldn't make Zev or Leliana a ranger-rogue either, as I didn't think RP wise they could be. So I stick with my dwarves and NPCs being all stabbity stabbity.

I'll make my Dalish elf a ranger, makes sense they can summon beasts of the forest. <.<;

With any rogue but my Dalish warden, I have waited until after completing Nature of the Beast to take one of the ranger talents.  Then you can plausibly RP that you learned the skill from Lanaya, perhaps as an additional reward for aiding them.

[soignee]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

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damnit why did this game make me like dwarves!? (though funnily enough I can never bring myself to give my dwarves a full beard)

This game has made em *love* dwarves. I always hated/ignored them, even though they're kinda a fantasy staple, but the lore is so well written and I love the political and back stabbing shenanigans it offers :3

[Sabriana]

Oh lords, Ejoslin. That song is perfect, and not for the break-up, but for the whole 'Zevran falling for the Warden in a way that scares the bee-jesus out of him'. Great.

Somehing I can never have by NIN is perfect.

I mean isn't it feasable that he thinks that she is something he can never have? It goes perfectly with the way of how relieved and happy he is when she (or he) chooses him. Perfect.

Now go and undelete that post. ASAP

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

Oh lords, Ejoslin. That song is perfect, and not for the break-up, but for the whole 'Zevran falling for the Warden in a way that scares the bee-jesus out of him'. Great.
Somehing I can never have by NIN is perfect.
I mean isn't it feasable that he thinks that she is something he can never have? It goes perfectly with the way of how relieved and happy he is when she (or he) chooses him. Perfect.
Now go and undelete that post. ASAP

Done!  And I agree, it's . . . perfect in all its horrible wretchedness.

[soulsweeper87]

I agree about the song!
My Dalish Elf Assassin & Zevran's theme is "beautiful thieves" by AFI

Modifié par soulsweeper87, 23 février 2010 - 07:51 .

[Sabriana]

It is perfect. It encompasses all his feelings before he hits the 'point of no return'.

I mean really, how can "you make this all go away, I'm down to just one thing, I'm starting to scare myself" not fit perfectly with a torn apart and confused Zevran.

Edited because of invisible ninjas

Oops. I mean the NIN song, of course. Although the 'thieves' song seems appropriate for an assassin couple, from what I could understand. English isn't my first language, so if it's spoken too fast, I miss a lot.

Modifié par Sabriana, 23 février 2010 - 07:59 .