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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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ejoslin

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QUESTION for the people who have done the male Zevran romance. I just want to confirm that you can tell Zevran off the bat that the Warden is straight. I swear I remember that option, but it's been quite awhile since I've played a male.

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Yeah, really. I'm getting a bit annoyed about that as well, Ejoslin. The females seem to be able to turn the romance off right in the beginning without any approval dings. Is there something missing?

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ejoslin wrote...

QUESTION for the people who have done the male Zevran romance. I just want to confirm that you can tell Zevran off the bat that the Warden is straight. I swear I remember that option, but it's been quite awhile since I've played a male.

Well, I can answer for my male PC.  Aedan asked what he fancied because he was curious, and ended the conversation with "no I'm not offended but don't bother."  I assumed that turned off the romance, however in the "what are you going to do with me after the Blight" conversation, Zevran says "what if we became fond of each other."  Which for a hetero male certainly sounds like a come-on.  So, I could see why the straight male who is sensitive to such things would be put off.  My Aedan just responded "I could always use a friend" (sees Zevran as a valuable ally by now), so I am guessing that will be that.

Thinking back, my PC meant "no but don't bother" as a statement that he was heterosexual, but Zevran instead interpreted it that he meant "don't bother trying to assassinate me that way because I don't trust you."  So it's possible that line triggered the romance without my PC intending it to.

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im an evil man



I had enough money for the 150 gold rose thorn dagger for Zevran and ended up buying the belt from the circle of Magi and the spellward amulet from Bhodan instead



no expensive dagger for Zev :( oh well he still has the felons coat which cost an arm and a leg

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Thanks Addai67. Turning OFF the romance is the weakest part of my FAQ because, well, I don't turn off the romance. I took out the line about being able to tell males that he's straight. But I think I have most, hopefully all, of the romance starter lines mentioned now. As long as those are avoided, the romance shouldn't turn on.

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 mars 2010 - 07:12 .


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Saying "but don't bother" might be taken a lot of ways. Gah! I wish the men here would do an input. I do happen to think that a clear and simple "no" would end any kind of romantic option. It does for the female PCs.

I hate having so few men here. Bleh.

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ejoslin wrote...

QUESTION for the people who have done the male Zevran romance. I just want to confirm that you can tell Zevran off the bat that the Warden is straight. I swear I remember that option, but it's been quite awhile since I've played a male.


yes its possible to turn the romance off straight off the bat

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Sabriana wrote...

Saying "but don't bother" might be taken a lot of ways. Gah! I wish the men here would do an input. I do happen to think that a clear and simple "no" would end any kind of romantic option. It does for the female PCs.
I hate having so few men here. Bleh.

Even if I'm not romancing him I always take the 'no, but don't bother.' Because like IRL I don't mind if a cute and hot guy calls me beautiful (not that that ever happened, but just saying).

Any luck with that Zevran-human kiss? o.o

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Yes. One of the responses to Zev's first tease is a clear-cut deny. Want me to dig up the precise question and answer?

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AndreaDraco wrote...

Yes. One of the responses to Zev's first tease is a clear-cut deny. Want me to dig up the precise question and answer?


Is it safe for me to put in the faq that a male warden can tell Zevran he's straight?  I don't need exact wording.  I just don't want to be giving bad information.

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 mars 2010 - 07:33 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Zevran and gifts . . . you may not be able to get him high enough, really.  Hmmmm, I think it's 17 + 12 + 8 + 7 + 6 + 6.  So definitely high enough to not be betrayed, but unless he's doing some serious approving when you take him with you (and that is definitely a possibility -- I always seem to get increases just by taking him out and about), you may never get him above 91+. 

He never will charm her?  That sounds like a lonely playthrough [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]


It is lonely! But the character concept came, as I think I mentioned, from a story I wrote, and you have no idea just how messed up *that* Malyan was... The fact this girl ended as sane as she is is already lucky, but nope, no romances are coming her way. None. I'm still pissed about Anders for this very reason. <_<

As for approval, I'm holding out hope... I'll get a bit by being swayed on the werewolves, I'll free Soris, kill Vaughn (if only because he's pathetic) and Howe, and actually be nice for once in the post-Taliesan conversation!
With gifts, I've given most of his but I still have the gloves, and at least I can give him all of Dog's and Wynne's gifts, a couple of Sten's and Alistair's, and all the generic ones... That's like 20 points! :wizard: (Yes I know I'm a terrible person, but a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do, right?)

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Re. his appearance:  What is it with the game's major male elves all being blonde?


Seriously! Arg, I adore guys with dark hair in real life. And it's not just the elves, either. The only attractive dark-haired guys are Duncan and Daveth, so everything after Ostagar is just a big buzz kill.

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You and I are working from similar concepts.  Our mages should get together- good times!


A little toooo similar, perhaps! I think she's going to go Blood Magic and Spirit Healer- she's full of contradictions. I don't have a great backstory for her yet, but the whole Alienage thing doesn't really fit her... I feel like she was born in a traveling caravan or something similar, but was taken to the circle at a very young age. *starts planning out ideas* Yours is very nice, though, and I like the connection with your HN!

Her portrait uploaded to my profile, too, if you want to see it. Now if only my other characters would...

Sabriana wrote...

Ohh, the Netherlands. Love them, I truly do.


Why can't any of you people be French?! I need someone to tutor me in French 1. :P Je sais parler japonais, mais je ne sais pas parler francais...

But seriously, I'll probably end up in Europe at some point, so you all had better be there to show me around! I've always wanted to visit the Netherlands and yonder...

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Come to Italy too! :D

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Why can't any of you people be French?! I need someone to tutor me in French 1. /images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png Je sais parler japonais, mais je ne sais pas parler francais...




I took french classes for 6 years... and I pretty much forgot all of it the second I stopped taking them



But seriously, I'll probably end up in Europe at some point, so you all had better be there to show me around! I've always wanted to visit the Netherlands and yonder...




I would if I could but I moved to America with my mom in 2000


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AndreaDraco wrote...

Come to Italy too! :D


You don't need to ask twice! Did I mention I love dark haired guys? Yes? Well, doesn't hurt to say it again... ;)

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ejoslin wrote...
Is it safe for me to put in the faq that a male warden can tell Zevran he's straight?  I don't need exact wording.  I just don't want to be giving bad information.


When Zevran asks for a rection after he said he fancies the Warden, the Warden can answer 'But I'm a man'. After that Zevran asks if he should apologize, and the Warden can answer 'I should say so'.

Terrible. Now I have to replay the segment to hear him when the Warden says that he likes being fancied :lol:

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I do come to Italy. Lots of times. I love that country.

Nonvita, come on ahead. You do know where you can find help in Germany.

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Ooooh, ok. I have that covered in my faq, that is you pick a romance starting line, Zevran will confirm that's what it is and you can turn him down.

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This is how I have it worded. After a long list of starter lines, I wrote:

If you choose any of these lines, he will confirm what you mean in a very obvious way, and at that point you can stop the romance from starting, though it may cost you a little approval. If you tell him it's ok, the romance begins. However, if you allow the romance to turn on, you will get a bigger approval ding when you break up, like with any other romance character.

Hmmm, is this clear enough?

Modifié par ejoslin, 01 mars 2010 - 07:46 .


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AndreaDraco

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Id' say it's crystal clear

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AndreaDraco wrote...

Id' say it's crystal clear


*grin* Ah good, then the ones in "OMGZ, that pervy elf" camp can't tell me my FAQ is wrong!

Thanks so much, Andrea!

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looking at the new Rogue specialization in the Awakening forums is it me or do the Shadow classes Skills seem to go really well with Zevran?

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Yeah, I thought that too! I haven't understood yet if Awakening spec will then be usable even in Origins, but, if they are, I've no doubt I'll respec Zev to be a Shadow ;)

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AndreaDraco wrote...

Yeah, I thought that too! I haven't understood yet if Awakening spec will then be usable even in Origins, but, if they are, I've no doubt I'll respec Zev to be a Shadow ;)


if they arnt for whatever reason it shouldent take more than a week for a mod toa dd the classes and stuff into origins

but Zev is perfect for Shadow+Assassin combo

duelist...well he isnt exactly a great face to face fighter and admits her prefers poisons and Alistair during a banter calls him out on his fighting skills

Bard: no I dont see it

Ranger: does he even LIKE animals?

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

but Zev is perfect for Shadow+Assassin combo

duelist...well he isnt exactly a great face to face fighter and admits her prefers poisons and Alistair during a banter calls him out on his fighting skills

Bard: no I dont see it

Ranger: does he even LIKE animals?


Agreed.
Eh, the pinpoint precision thing kinda works, but a little iffey.
Neither do I.
No.

And the new rogue talents/shadow spec look amazing! I'm so excited! :o

OK, maybe I shouldn't be that excited...

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AndreaDraco wrote...

Come to Italy too! :D

I've been there last year, terrible weather. Might have something to do with the fact that it was februari...
You should come to the Netherlands, though the weather is bad.

Ramante wrote...
I wish Zevran would be available in Awakening, he is perfect for a Shadow specialization.

Seems like I'm not the only one who thinks Zevran will make a perfect Shadow.
I don't know if he likes animals, I do know he doesn't like the forest (comment during the Dalish quest).

Modifié par Ramante, 01 mars 2010 - 08:23 .