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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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Addai

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I may be way off, but I think Zevran is mid-20's and he seems older because he has scars both figurative and literal. He has a bit of a young buck feel about him that makes me think he hasn't yet seen 30.

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Yeah, mid-20s or so for Zev sounds about right... Addai's inferences seem spot-on to me.

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I do see Zevran as a bit older, but yes, it could be because of the scars on his face. The weariness would definitely be from his lifestyle, not his age. I actually see Alistair as 18-20 though. The way he acts is either because he's a young man, or a weak man, and I prefer to see him as young.

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*laaughs* I see Alistair as a weak/naive man. So early 20's (no more than 22 to me) for him.

I can see Zevran being in his mid-late 20's, but not much more than that, especially not north of 30, since if he uses seduction as a technique, his marks are going to want someone younger and more beautiful......(if you were a mark, especially someone older/influential, wouldn't you be more flattered by the attention of a 25 year old than a 35 year old? (think appealing to their vanity/pride) and potentailly more likely to let them get close?)

Edit: But thinking back, maybe it's more his marks using seduction on him, instead of the other way around, then maybe his age wouldn't matter so much. But I still have a mental block of an 18-20 year old being involved with somone almost 2x their age. Image IPB

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Ahhh yes, I have to keep reminding myself just how young Zevran started his training. I suppose he could have become a full fledged assassin as young as his teens, so I guess mid-20s isn't too far off. It does make me feel a little weird about Isabela, however, as that makes her a straight up cougar.



Well, I guess I've gotta settle on his age at some point. 26. Sound good?

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David Gaider actually replied somewhere about the timeline and Allistair's age. I can't for the life of me find it now. There was an error in the initial printing of the book as well as an error in the timeline used to write some of the codex entries. I think he said that Allistair was in his late 20's, but I can't find it to confirm.



Given how sheltered he would have been in the Templars, it makes sense that he would behave as a younger man even if he was in his 30's. He is very innocent and still believes that people are basically good. Everyone else in the game has had that notion well and truly beaten out of them. It makes him seem much younger than he is. There just isn't a happy ending for him. He is far too gentle for the world in which he was born and I hate shattering his illusions by hardening him. His illusions are kind of nice. :(



But, that is also the reason I find Zevran so much more appealing as a romantic interest. It feels much more "real".

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Nonvita wrote...

Ahhh yes, I have to keep reminding myself just how young Zevran started his training. I suppose he could have become a full fledged assassin as young as his teens, so I guess mid-20s isn't too far off. It does make me feel a little weird about Isabela, however, as that makes her a straight up cougar.

Well, I guess I've gotta settle on his age at some point. 26. Sound good?


That sounds about right to me. I always thought mid to late 20s with him. Alistair I always thought was early 20's.


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Come to Italy too! :D


I was in Italy in September 2008, I absolutely loved it. Especially since my grandfather is Northern Italian-Sicilian.

Argh this is one of my last days posting here till March 3rd, then I will be without DA:O, Zev, and you guys till March 15. But the consolation is I'll be in the Caribbean, and I get back the night before Awakenings comes out.

I can see myself falling off the cruise ship while looking into the sunset and imagining Zevran right next to me laughing in that liquid sex voice of his. So here's hoping I survive it.:wizard:

Edit: Spelling....

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sami jo wrote...

David Gaider actually replied somewhere about the timeline and Allistair's age. I can't for the life of me find it now. There was an error in the initial printing of the book as well as an error in the timeline used to write some of the codex entries. I think he said that Allistair was in his late 20's, but I can't find it to confirm.


According to the timelines other people have posted that they also say DG agreed to, Alistair is either 19-20 or mid-20s, depending on maternity. So, I'd be curious to see this post, as that's quite different than everything I've heard up until now.

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I almost felt dirty when i let my mage romance with zevran, I personally think she's too good for him. I only did it to unlock the achievement. I dumped him soon after.

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Sami, if you can find that thread, please link it. I'd be interested in what the DA:O 'God' has to say.



Whoa, if Alistair IS in his late 20's then there is no way he can be Fiona's son.



Ah, Maric and his weakness for the elven lasses.

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Well, I'm assuming elves age/mature slower than humans, have longer lifespans. Maybe, just maybe, that can pass on to their human offspring, at least a little? So maybe, Alistair is in his late 20s, but maturity-wise he's still a teen?

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SurrealSadi wrote...

Well, I'm assuming elves age/mature slower than humans, have longer lifespans. Maybe, just maybe, that can pass on to their human offspring, at least a little? So maybe, Alistair is in his late 20s, but maturity-wise he's still a teen?


I remember someone in the Dalish Camp commenting that Dalish elves live longer then city elves, but I can't remember who said it. I want to say Lanaya.

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But wouldn't that make it the opposite way? That he would look younger than his age, not older? Oh, I get so confused!

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TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Well, I'm assuming elves age/mature slower than humans, have longer lifespans. Maybe, just maybe, that can pass on to their human offspring, at least a little? So maybe, Alistair is in his late 20s, but maturity-wise he's still a teen?


I remember someone in the Dalish Camp commenting that Dalish elves live longer then city elves, but I can't remember who said it. I want to say Lanaya.


Hmm. I'm in Brecelian with Selene right now... I can backtrack to the Camp and check about when I play later. I could swear I remember hearing that too in an earlier playthorugh. I know back in the times of Arlathan elves were immortal, and they somehow lost that immortality. Hmm....


EDIT: @ejoslin: Ah... You could be right on that.... I always get that screwed up....

Modifié par SurrealSadi, 01 mars 2010 - 11:15 .


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TripLight wrote...

I remember someone in the Dalish Camp
commenting that Dalish elves live longer then city elves, but I can't
remember who said it. I want to say Lanaya.


Gheyna (teehee they'll never notice) talks about that. But I have no idea what effect elven blood would have on an elf blooded human. I suppose it's possible that makes them develop differently?

ejoslin wrote...

But wouldn't that make it the opposite way? That he would look younger than his age, not older? Oh, I get so confused!


If we're trying to make it fit that he's Fiona's son, then yes. As I'm a proponent of Fiona Alistair, this doesn't really help. XD

Modifié par Nonvita, 01 mars 2010 - 11:19 .


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SurrealSadi wrote...

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Well, I'm assuming elves age/mature slower than humans, have longer lifespans. Maybe, just maybe, that can pass on to their human offspring, at least a little? So maybe, Alistair is in his late 20s, but maturity-wise he's still a teen?


I remember someone in the Dalish Camp commenting that Dalish elves live longer then city elves, but I can't remember who said it. I want to say Lanaya.


Hmm. I'm in Brecelian with Selene right now... I can backtrack to the Camp and check about when I play later. I could swear I remember hearing that too in an earlier playthorugh. I know back in the times of Arlathan elves were immortal, and they somehow lost that immortality. Hmm....


EDIT: @ejoslin: Ah... You could be right on that.... I always get that screwed up....


You know what, I heard it on my most current playthrough, and I think it was Gheyna. Because I failed at getting her and Cammen together with Coercion, so I was going through her dialogue, which I never did before. It was Gheyna who said it.

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TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Well, I'm assuming elves age/mature slower than humans, have longer lifespans. Maybe, just maybe, that can pass on to their human offspring, at least a little? So maybe, Alistair is in his late 20s, but maturity-wise he's still a teen?


I remember someone in the Dalish Camp commenting that Dalish elves live longer then city elves, but I can't remember who said it. I want to say Lanaya.


Hmm. I'm in Brecelian with Selene right now... I can backtrack to the Camp and check about when I play later. I could swear I remember hearing that too in an earlier playthorugh. I know back in the times of Arlathan elves were immortal, and they somehow lost that immortality. Hmm....


EDIT: @ejoslin: Ah... You could be right on that.... I always get that screwed up....


You know what, I heard it on my most current playthrough, and I think it was Gheyna. Because I failed at getting her and Cammen together with Coercion, so I was going through her dialogue, which I never did before. It was Gheyna who said it.


Ahh... Well, I already gave Cammen a pelt I had in my inventory to get that quest done so I can't talk to Gheyna now.

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Nonvita wrote...

sami jo wrote...

David Gaider actually replied somewhere about the timeline and Allistair's age. I can't for the life of me find it now. There was an error in the initial printing of the book as well as an error in the timeline used to write some of the codex entries. I think he said that Allistair was in his late 20's, but I can't find it to confirm.


According to the timelines other people have posted that they also say DG agreed to, Alistair is either 19-20 or mid-20s, depending on maternity. So, I'd be curious to see this post, as that's quite different than everything I've heard up until now.


I'll hunt for it after I feed my boys.  They object to going hungry while I stoke my obsession.  ^_^  It is entirely possible that I am remembering it incorrectly, but he did clarify the official timeline.  I'm almost positive it was in the general non-spoilers forum roughly a month to a month and a half ago if anyone else goes hunting while I'm cooking.

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I think this might be it.



I remember seeing this a couple of weeks ago.

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Ok, I must have totally glossed over some part in the game. Probably staring at the rogue's butt again. Who's Fiona?

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Charsen wrote...

Ok, I must have totally glossed over some part in the game. Probably staring at the rogue's butt again. Who's Fiona?

You are not crazy, Fiona is in the novel The Calling.  We probably should be posting book spoiler warnings.




BOOK SPOILER WARNING



I am totally on Team Fiona for the babymama, too.  Go Fiona!  Rah rah rah!

Modifié par Addai67, 01 mars 2010 - 11:43 .


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SurrealSadi

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*blink* Um, how did we go from a Zevran-love thread to 'let's figure out alistair's age'?

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She's in the second Dragon Age Novel, "The Calling". An Elven Mage Grey Warden

Edit: Ninja'ed:ph34r:

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EDIT:lousy lag made me double post.

Modifié par SurrealSadi, 01 mars 2010 - 11:46 .


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this topic does that alot



theres quite a few discussions of Maric 2.0 spread throughout the thread