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Cuddlezarro wrote...

you also dont need to be the one that proposes to him in front of a large group of people so he *wont* dump you or make you a concubine


Also very true.  He's the one who proposes.  Of course, it's not as beautiful as the proposal you could imaging Alistair giving, if, ummm, Alistair were actually to propose.  Actually, on second thought, Zevran's is so sweet and shy and awkward . . . I can't imagine it being better.

You know, that actually would be an amazing thing to give the Alistair fans -- Ali proposing if you don't make him king!  But then again, if that were in the game, there would be far fewer endings with King Alistair! 

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I wish his kiss with a male elf were a bit more passionate. :-/ After seeing these kisses I'm a bit disappointed now. It's a nice kiss, but man... I want smoldering make-out kiss like some of the others. Not fair.


If someone comes up with a mod to give everyone the dwarf kiss, I will give in and find the money for a new computer to get off the Xbox. 

@CZ:  the decision to set his sex roles in that way was kind of an odd choice by the devs.  Much like the difference in his reaction to the kiss and the tent, I wonder if the devs were sending a message or just mixing it up.

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also another good reason to like Zevran over Alistair:



ZERO influence from a certain judgmental old cow!



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Well, here's my hardened warrior CE, since my glitched out graphics screwed up my portrait of Dristen. D:

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poor guy :(



atleast you can even upload your characters *glares at my internet modem and swears about how craptastic my internet company is*

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

I still find it funny how he only tops the male elf and not the other males


I know BSC with Zesty/Medium has HM as a top, it's not bad, a little hmm, but could be more... 
I was looking at the Alistair BSC mod in the toolset, and thinking it might be possible to have a step progression for Zevran that would gradually incorporate different cutscenes. I dunno if anyone here mods cutscenes, scripts or does other mod work, but out of the ideas I had for DA mods, one with Zevran is definitely a high priority. So I've been checking that out, hopefully getting back to my old NWN modding roots with a Zevtastic focus.

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Charsen, how difficult would it be to make a mod that has Zevran available right after Lothering? Would that be doable?  Or would it be a very difficult thing to do?  I'm pestering people every time I see "mod" in this thread.  I can't run the toolbox for some reason on my machine.

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I know BSC with Zesty/Medium has HM as a top,




the original version of those scenes had Zev topping but to many people complained about him being to dominant lol



then again the one he topped was pretty awful looks wise and didnt look natual at all<_<

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See, even though the vanilla sex scenes are very, well, vanilla, I love the way Zevran looks at the warden in all of them. Aside from my other problems with BSC (and this is totally personal preference and I'm glad they're there for people who like them) is the facial expressions are off. In the vanilla, he just looks so sweet and caring for the warden. He does look the most, almost submissive (but not really -- it's hard to explain) for the female human, and is definitely dominant for the female elf, and he and the female dwarf definitely look like a meeting of equals there.



I feel weird talking about this, though, for some reason.

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I feel weird talking about this, though, for some reason.




and so you should since stuff like this makes Wynn Disapprove

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

poor guy :(

atleast you can even upload your characters *glares at my internet modem and swears about how craptastic my internet company is*


Yeah.... I'm hoping when I revert back to an old restore point, the game will return to the way it was.  Updating my Gcard aparently was not a good idea.

I think I'm going to look for a makeup color mod and re-do this character... the damn makeup and tatoo colors in this game are so rediculous... especialy the makeup colors.  I can have neon colored makeup, but not a bit of kol?  Black is one of the oldest colors in makeup history!!!  And grey!  *anoyed*

That sucks about your internet.  D: 

I don't know why, but mine takes weeks to update my profile... and when it does the updates are spontanious and missing stuff.  I created Davend before Sabath, but he never showed up in my profile.  lol  it's weird.

Mmmmm... but yeah... look at her... I can't see her being a sweet reluctant submissive lover, can you?  :D

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Charsen, how difficult would it be to make a mod that has Zevran available right after Lothering? Would that be doable?  Or would it be a very difficult thing to do?  I'm pestering people every time I see "mod" in this thread.  I can't run the toolbox for some reason on my machine.


Hmmm... well I'd have to check the trigger for that. I'm not sure exactly why he shows up when he does. But I don't think it would be, in theory, that difficult. But it really depends on what else it touches, since compatibility issues with Aurora are as forgiving as say, Oblivion (but there are positives to that too)... I will look into it though!


Cuddlezarro wrote...

I know BSC with Zesty/Medium has HM as a top,

the original version of those scenes had Zev topping but to many people complained about him being to dominant lol

then again the one he topped was pretty awful looks wise and didnt look natual at all<_<


Ahh, I didn't see the first versions. I think the HM top looks natural enough, except for Zevran's putty neck. ergh. Though I'm really wanting to add some more, hm, options to that. 

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ejoslin wrote...

See, even though the vanilla sex scenes are very, well, vanilla, I love the way Zevran looks at the warden in all of them. Aside from my other problems with BSC (and this is totally personal preference and I'm glad they're there for people who like them) is the facial expressions are off. In the vanilla, he just looks so sweet and caring for the warden. He does look the most, almost submissive (but not really -- it's hard to explain) for the female human, and is definitely dominant for the female elf, and he and the female dwarf definitely look like a meeting of equals there.

I feel weird talking about this, though, for some reason.


lol  You pure flower you.

Yeah, I wish there were a good middle of the road... or a way to choose via dialogue which sex scene you get.  THAT would be fun.  Davend's 'interogation' flirtation with Zev makes the slow, soft, sweet lovescene look obsurdly out of place, but the love scene is very sweet during serious romantic points for the characters.  And I'd love to have Davend submit for Zevran once he realizes how rediculously awsome he is.  ;D  His way of saying sorry for being a bit calous early on.

I absolutely can not see my CE being submissive at all...at least not untill much later in the relationship.  I could only see her secretly wanting Duncan, because she was thrilled to be recognised for her skill and leadership... praised right in front of the guards and conscribed to save her life.  And he's so respectfull and treets her as an equal from the moment the meet... She'll EVENTUALLY recognise Zevran as a strong and worthy warrior, but she's more interested in the 'ravaging in victory' idea at first.  Though she likes Zev rioght away, mind you... she's not cruel... just very dominant.  But he'll be her buddy right away.

My Dalish is Zev's ****, though.  lol 

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Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Charsen, how difficult would it be to make a mod that has Zevran available right after Lothering? Would that be doable?  Or would it be a very difficult thing to do?  I'm pestering people every time I see "mod" in this thread.  I can't run the toolbox for some reason on my machine.


Hmmm... well I'd have to check the trigger for that. I'm not sure exactly why he shows up when he does. But I don't think it would be, in theory, that difficult. But it really depends on what else it touches, since compatibility issues with Aurora are as forgiving as say, Oblivion (but there are positives to that too)... I will look into it though!


OHOH!  Thank you for looking into that!

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*randomly hugs everyone*  Back from my trip, and this is the only forum thread anywhere that I would read over 10 pages to catch up on! :D

I see I missed more Zev/Taliesen/Rinna talk... just gotta say, ejoslin, if you feel fic urges in that direction, WRITE IT! XD ... please?  :unsure:

And hooray, Sresla!  I was looking at the other Zev club last week and thinking it seemed all... inactive and sad. Will definitely be popping into the new one. XD

Just so I'm not completely empty-handed, here's a bit of fanart of my CE and Zevran by tahara (don't know if she's on the forum here, but she was doing free commissions on LJ as a sort of art project).  A bit NSFW!! (nothing explicit)
http://img.photobuck.../scan0001-9.jpg

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Hmmm... well I'd have to check the trigger for that. I'm not sure exactly why he shows up when he does. But I don't think it would be, in theory, that difficult. But it really depends on what else it touches, since compatibility issues with Aurora are as forgiving as say, Oblivion (but there are positives to that too)... I will look into it though!




you will be a god amongst men if you get Zev to spawn earlier

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Hmmm... well I'd have to check the trigger for that. I'm not sure exactly why he shows up when he does. But I don't think it would be, in theory, that difficult. But it really depends on what else it touches, since compatibility issues with Aurora are as forgiving as say, Oblivion (but there are positives to that too)... I will look into it though!


you will be a god amongst men if you get Zev to spawn earlier


Zevran spawning.  *dirty thoughts*

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Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Charsen, how difficult would it be to make a mod that has Zevran available right after Lothering? Would that be doable?  Or would it be a very difficult thing to do?  I'm pestering people every time I see "mod" in this thread.  I can't run the toolbox for some reason on my machine.


Hmmm... well I'd have to check the trigger for that. I'm not sure exactly why he shows up when he does. But I don't think it would be, in theory, that difficult. But it really depends on what else it touches, since compatibility issues with Aurora are as forgiving as say, Oblivion (but there are positives to that too)... I will look into it though!


Cuddlezarro wrote...

I know BSC with Zesty/Medium has HM as a top,

the original version of those scenes had Zev topping but to many people complained about him being to dominant lol

then again the one he topped was pretty awful looks wise and didnt look natual at all<_<


Ahh, I didn't see the first versions. I think the HM top looks natural enough, except for Zevran's putty neck. ergh. Though I'm really wanting to add some more, hm, options to that. 


That's why I had to unintall that mod, the movements and appendages(not the naughty ones;)) looked way too unnatural for me. The person did a good job considering, with the mod, but it reminded me to much of Skinemax After Dark.

Plus I couldn't stop lol'ing with Alistair's scenes, and I didn't even get to do Zev's because I uninstalled it before I started romancing him.

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and I didn't even get to do Zev's because I uninstalled it before I started romancing him.




the Male/male zev scene is freaking hilarious as well

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EccentricSage wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

See, even though the vanilla sex scenes are very, well, vanilla, I love the way Zevran looks at the warden in all of them. Aside from my other problems with BSC (and this is totally personal preference and I'm glad they're there for people who like them) is the facial expressions are off. In the vanilla, he just looks so sweet and caring for the warden. He does look the most, almost submissive (but not really -- it's hard to explain) for the female human, and is definitely dominant for the female elf, and he and the female dwarf definitely look like a meeting of equals there.

I feel weird talking about this, though, for some reason.


lol  You pure flower you.

Yeah, I wish there were a good middle of the road... or a way to choose via dialogue which sex scene you get.  THAT would be fun.  Davend's 'interogation' flirtation with Zev makes the slow, soft, sweet lovescene look obsurdly out of place, but the love scene is very sweet during serious romantic points for the characters.  And I'd love to have Davend submit for Zevran once he realizes how rediculously awsome he is.  ;D  His way of saying sorry for being a bit calous early on.

I absolutely can not see my CE being submissive at all...at least not untill much later in the relationship.  I could only see her secretly wanting Duncan, because she was thrilled to be recognised for her skill and leadership... praised right in front of the guards and conscribed to save her life.  And he's so respectfull and treets her as an equal from the moment the meet... She'll EVENTUALLY recognise Zevran as a strong and worthy warrior, but she's more interested in the 'ravaging in victory' idea at first.  Though she likes Zev rioght away, mind you... she's not cruel... just very dominant.  But he'll be her buddy right away.

My Dalish is Zev's ****, though.  lol 


I really think this can be done. There's precedence with the mod that allows Alistair to become more experienced. I haven't tried it out yet, I dunno if it works for m/m. I know there's an equal love mod, but it doesn't seem to like working with BSC. If I can figure it out for m/zev... I could try to make it work with f/zev too. I think Zev deserves to have more options than the others. Well I guess maybe Leliana might too, but that's in unknown territory.... :blink:

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Here's hoping someone posted those on youtube or the like kind of site. I really don't want to install it again, then be gone for two weeks and forget about it and have it conflict with awakenings.

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

and I didn't even get to do Zev's because I uninstalled it before I started romancing him.


the Male/male zev scene is freaking hilarious as well


It is, and if you install any of the body mods with er, larger features, you are murdering Zevran's head with the mage staff of power. :wizard:

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jenovan wrote...

*randomly hugs everyone*  Back from my trip, and this is the only forum thread anywhere that I would read over 10 pages to catch up on! :D

I see I missed more Zev/Taliesen/Rinna talk... just gotta say, ejoslin, if you feel fic urges in that direction, WRITE IT! XD ... please?  :unsure:

And hooray, Sresla!  I was looking at the other Zev club last week and thinking it seemed all... inactive and sad. Will definitely be popping into the new one. XD

Just so I'm not completely empty-handed, here's a bit of fanart of my CE and Zevran by tahara (don't know if she's on the forum here, but she was doing free commissions on LJ as a sort of art project).  A bit NSFW!! (nothing explicit)
http://img.photobuck.../scan0001-9.jpg


Welcome back!  You have been missed :wub:

That drawing is . . . oh so hot.  Thanks for sharing that.  She really is VERY good (no, I've never heard of her before, but that drawing really is sexy).

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Charsen wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

and I didn't even get to do Zev's because I uninstalled it before I started romancing him.


the Male/male zev scene is freaking hilarious as well


It is, and if you install any of the body mods with er, larger features, you are murdering Zevran's head with the mage staff of power. :wizard:


XD  *laughing so hard I almost cried* yegods... *still cackling*

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Charsen wrote...

EccentricSage wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

See, even though the vanilla sex scenes are very, well, vanilla, I love the way Zevran looks at the warden in all of them. Aside from my other problems with BSC (and this is totally personal preference and I'm glad they're there for people who like them) is the facial expressions are off. In the vanilla, he just looks so sweet and caring for the warden. He does look the most, almost submissive (but not really -- it's hard to explain) for the female human, and is definitely dominant for the female elf, and he and the female dwarf definitely look like a meeting of equals there.

I feel weird talking about this, though, for some reason.


lol  You pure flower you.

Yeah, I wish there were a good middle of the road... or a way to choose via dialogue which sex scene you get.  THAT would be fun.  Davend's 'interogation' flirtation with Zev makes the slow, soft, sweet lovescene look obsurdly out of place, but the love scene is very sweet during serious romantic points for the characters.  And I'd love to have Davend submit for Zevran once he realizes how rediculously awsome he is.  ;D  His way of saying sorry for being a bit calous early on.

I absolutely can not see my CE being submissive at all...at least not untill much later in the relationship.  I could only see her secretly wanting Duncan, because she was thrilled to be recognised for her skill and leadership... praised right in front of the guards and conscribed to save her life.  And he's so respectfull and treets her as an equal from the moment the meet... She'll EVENTUALLY recognise Zevran as a strong and worthy warrior, but she's more interested in the 'ravaging in victory' idea at first.  Though she likes Zev rioght away, mind you... she's not cruel... just very dominant.  But he'll be her buddy right away.

My Dalish is Zev's ****, though.  lol 


I really think this can be done. There's precedence with the mod that allows Alistair to become more experienced. I haven't tried it out yet, I dunno if it works for m/m. I know there's an equal love mod, but it doesn't seem to like working with BSC. If I can figure it out for m/zev... I could try to make it work with f/zev too. I think Zev deserves to have more options than the others. Well I guess maybe Leliana might too, but that's in unknown territory.... :blink:


That would be so cool!!!  :o

Any possability of bondage fantasies?  :whistle:

You will be a god amongst men.  And of course Zev deserves the most options... he'd get so board with vanilla.:wub:

Ooops... I'm making a mess all over the forum with my postings... will slow down.......:innocent:

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