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Cuddlezarro wrote...

also I think Zevran started a new fetish for me

the hot tatooed assassin fetish... I was watching last weeks episode of Caprica on hulu and Sam Adama had his shirt off and wow *drools* its made even hotter by the fact he has a husband *drools*


Oh yeah, haven't checked that show out yet. Was a big fan of BSG but kinda hesitated with Caprica. Buuut.. I think I should start watching it now that you mention it... :devil:

I love tattoos though. And tattoos on a sinuous assassin, well, Zevran definitely got something going on there. I wonder what the story is behind Dalish tattoos anyway? I'm sure it's covered somewhere, but I never seemed to run across it as a human mage. I guess it's another reason to do the elf origin.

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

also I think Zevran started a new fetish for me

the hot tatooed assassin fetish... I was watching last weeks episode of Caprica on hulu and Sam Adama had his shirt off and wow *drools* its made even hotter by the fact he has a husband *drools*


Assassins are just hot.  No way around it.  I've never played ME (sorry Bioware!  D: ), but the commercials for ME2 had me checking out the handsome reptilian looking alien assassin.  *sigh*


Well, I voted for Antiva in the poll and wrote this:

Antiva!  I want some intrigue!  A lawless nation of cloak and dagger politics where we constantly have to carefully measure our allegiances and actions.  A place of both beauty and grit.  A place both fascinating and horrific. 

It would be amazing to see what type of storyline they could come up with to bring your Warden and friends there... I'm hoping that there would be a Zevran vs the Crows story.  It would be something entirely new to see him in his native land, and see where he came from.  Imagine a story where you'd have to fight the crows... mmmm... Maybe the crows have become divided, and thus weakened.  Maybe there were still Crows coming after Zevran, and so the Warden and a couple loyal companions past aid him in taking the fight to them, to force the end of this aggression once and for all, only to become politically embroiled in the potential collapse of the very organization that effectively runs, and protects, Antiva.

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Now THAT, would be a good game, don't you think?  We need a break from darkspawn.

Charsen wrote...

I
love tattoos though. And tattoos on a sinuous assassin, well, Zevran
definitely got something going on there. I wonder what the story is
behind Dalish tattoos anyway? I'm sure it's covered somewhere, but I
never seemed to run across it as a human mage. I guess it's another
reason to do the elf origin.


The Dalish tattoos are suposed to corespond with different Dalish deities.  But I've not found any lore explaining which design corespond with which god.  I had thought it was something to do with bloodlines.  lol

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Charsen wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

also I think Zevran started a new fetish for me

the hot tatooed assassin fetish... I was watching last weeks episode of Caprica on hulu and Sam Adama had his shirt off and wow *drools* its made even hotter by the fact he has a husband *drools*


Oh yeah, haven't checked that show out yet. Was a big fan of BSG but kinda hesitated with Caprica. Buuut.. I think I should start watching it now that you mention it... :devil:

I love tattoos though. And tattoos on a sinuous assassin, well, Zevran definitely got something going on there. I wonder what the story is behind Dalish tattoos anyway? I'm sure it's covered somewhere, but I never seemed to run across it as a human mage. I guess it's another reason to do the elf origin.


Caprica is pretty different from BSG in quite a few ways but it is interesting to see how thing came to be in BSG

it does start out pretty slow though but as you have seen BSG you know that show can go at a snails pace to develop the plot but the latest episode of caprica was awesome (episode 5)

even barring Admiral Adamas incredibly hot assassin Uncle, (though its no wonder he turned out to be such a badass with an uncle like sam) it was just awesome a large chunk of the episode also had a very sin cityish feel to it

also there should be a codex entry on dalish tatoos and there is a Banter with Leliena concerning his tatoos and that they have sacred meanings (there are also more only our PC's get to see)

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Hooooly mother of the Maker, this thread goes fast! CZ that screen is absolutely hilarious! If I'm ever bored, maybe I'll try taking some of the female elf scenes- there are some truly LOL moments in those!



Man, I got through so much today. Finished the Dalish (yay!) and got Zevran's plea- it's so touching! It made me feel really happy with the way things turned out. =)

I talked to him about the Dalish back at camp, after which I gave him his gloves, so he's finally up to a whopping +40! Woot! I also got Leliana's song, which was nice, if a little OOC. Seriously though, where was Zevran in that?!



Oh, and since we were talking about nude mods, I discovered they are *not* conducive to the lifting the curse scene. Lots of naked werewolf-(re)turned-humans is not what I was expecting. o.O

Too bad Wynne wasn't there to express her disapproval. =(

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Oh, and since we were talking about nude mods, I discovered they are *not* conducive to the lifting the curse scene. Lots of naked werewolf-(re)turned-humans is not what I was expecting. o.O


huh when ever I end the curse the werewolves have clothes on and I dont just mean underwear but shirt, shoes and trousers

the only time the nude modes cause lulz are Howes dungeons+fort drakon and King Cailens boner in return to ostagar

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Nonvita wrote...

Hooooly mother of the Maker, this thread goes fast! CZ that screen is absolutely hilarious! If I'm ever bored, maybe I'll try taking some of the female elf scenes- there are some truly LOL moments in those!

Man, I got through so much today. Finished the Dalish (yay!) and got Zevran's plea- it's so touching! It made me feel really happy with the way things turned out. =)
I talked to him about the Dalish back at camp, after which I gave him his gloves, so he's finally up to a whopping +40! Woot! I also got Leliana's song, which was nice, if a little OOC. Seriously though, where was Zevran in that?!

Oh, and since we were talking about nude mods, I discovered they are *not* conducive to the lifting the curse scene. Lots of naked werewolf-(re)turned-humans is not what I was expecting. o.O
Too bad Wynne wasn't there to express her disapproval. =(


You seriously should have screen capped that.  XD  I bet Zevran approves.


Ooooh... Even though Antiva is 3rd in votes, a lot of the people who commented and didn't pick it, mention it as a second choice. 

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Cuddlezarro wrote...
King Cailens boner in return to ostagar


LMAO
Oh man, that is so wrong.

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EccentricSage wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...
King Cailens boner in return to ostagar


LMAO
Oh man, that is so wrong.


Wynn probably found it hawt

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

huh when ever I end the curse the werewolves have clothes on and I dont just mean underwear but shirt, shoes and trousers

the only time the nude modes cause lulz are Howes dungeons+fort drakon and King Cailens boner in return to ostagar


Well, I'm thinking one of the mods I use may have made them not have clothes on (Improved Atmosphere, it's good overall but it changes so many things I've never bothered to figure it all out, so I get surprises like this)... I may actually have a screenshot, since I think it takes them automatically...


And don't forget the HN origin. Dairren was apparently happy to die, too!

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Example #2: You stay in Denerim. What exactly is going to be happening there to keep him from being bored out of his mind? There's only so much bodyguarding one man can do (chicka chicka bow wow, okay not bodyguarding in that sense!). But helping strengthen Alistair's (he just doesn't seem like an Anora supporter) or the Warden's position on the throne? For sure. Most of the assassinations he talks about, are, in fact, politically motivated and it seems to me he'd be well suited for being able to pick out who might become a threat or already is one (like, I don't know, that guy who ALWAYS supports Loghain, even when all the other Banns go against him).


I agree, and I think my HNF will see having to ask Zevran to help her with such things as a cost she chose to bear by becoming queen.  Of course she would never "order" him, as if he would take to that anyway, but being a cunning rogue herself, she is going to be doing the low-down work of hers and Alistair's reign.  That's how she's seen it from day one when she tried to spare Loghain (at least from public execution), deferred to Alistair, but did the execution herself.  She is Alistair's lieutenant, so that he can be the good guy.  In this, Zevran will be an invaluable partner, and I think he'll willingly bear the ugliness with her.  I actually think that they'll always have a closeness that will probably drive Alistair crazy at times, though she would never be unfaithful.

I do absolutely think the Crows will come after him.  They'll all be counting on it.

Example #3: You travel. This one is open to a lot of interpretation. Maybe you two go to Par Vollen, like he talks about. Maybe the Qun give you both jobs. I dunno, as a mage, I'd be petrified to step foot in that country, they'd cut out my tongue and throw me in jail. But he'd probably need to assassinate some people to rescue me (hopefully before my tongue gets cut out).

This is what I've thought of doing with my mage- traveling, that is.  She's been locked up in that damn Tower for most of her life and the idea of seeing a bit of the world with Zevran is enticing.  I think she would wish they could go to Antiva, even just to sneak in for a little while.  It would no doubt be too dangerous, but the way he talks about rain while the flowers are in bloom, and his own homesickness, makes her wish they could see it.

She and Zevran are finally in the tent now.  It worked out very sweetly.  He offered her the massage, but semi-virginal thing that she is, she turned him down from nervousness.  How intimidating is it to be reminded that you've had exactly one lover and he's an expert?  However, she kept talking to him and he first offered her the poem, then thanked her for helping him leave the Crows.  I picture that they actually talked long into the night, she all the while trying to work up the courage to say that she really did want to spend the night with him.  His vow that he would be with her to the end with the Blight pushed her over the edge.  However, she asked him about love afterwards, so that was a -4 overall.  I'm going to let it stand, however.  It's what she really wanted to know.  Poor thing, she is coming to believe that no man is ever going to stay with her and actually love her.  She thinks Zevran will tire of her and move on eventually, probably sooner rather than later.  She is in for a sweet surprise, of course.  I love the Zevran romance!!!!  <3

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Addai67 wrote...

She and Zevran are finally in the tent now.  It worked out very sweetly.  He offered her the massage, but semi-virginal thing that she is, she turned him down from nervousness.  How intimidating is it to be reminded that you've had exactly one lover and he's an expert?  However, she kept talking to him and he first offered her the poem, then thanked her for helping him leave the Crows.  I picture that they actually talked long into the night, she all the while trying to work up the courage to say that she really did want to spend the night with him.  His vow that he would be with her to the end with the Blight pushed her over the edge.  However, she asked him about love afterwards, so that was a -4 overall.  I'm going to let it stand, however.  It's what she really wanted to know.  Poor thing, she is coming to believe that no man is ever going to stay with her and actually love her.  She thinks Zevran will tire of her and move on eventually, probably sooner rather than later.  She is in for a sweet surprise, of course.  I love the Zevran romance!!!!  <3


This is so sweet! I can't wait to try something similar with my mage. :wub:


OK, well here's how my werewolf sparing ended up looking...
http://i154.photobuc...Malyan1_250.jpg
I believe Zevran was again wondering why these things don't turn into orgies more often...


And just to wipe that image from our minds, Zevran pleading for the elves.
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http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s268/mdopure/Malyan1_250.jpg


why is swift runner the only one with clothes on?

any ways

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

why is swift runner the only one with clothes on?


I really have no idea... I don't think I even want to ask. :pinched:

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Oh, and since we were talking about nude mods, I discovered they are *not* conducive to the lifting the curse scene. Lots of naked werewolf-(re)turned-humans is not what I was expecting. o.O


huh when ever I end the curse the werewolves have clothes on and I dont just mean underwear but shirt, shoes and trousers

the only time the nude modes cause lulz are Howes dungeons+fort drakon and King Cailens boner in return to ostagar


don't forget the guard that you can seduce in the Break Out quest in Ft. Drakon... He comes in and you can say, hey, take off that armor... and he takes it off except for the helmet(??) and if you have the erect mod.. you, alistair and the guard are just standing around like "whats up... oh yeah, me too."  Plus in the cinematic for Break Out, it pans over a torture rack... everyone had boners. Choked then stretched, hm? 

And in Howe's dungeon where you meet the crazy old naked guy... yeah, hard talking to him with a straight face while he's all out there.. and the fire ritual in the Ashes? Uhh.. 

Oh and the worst thing was when I respec'd using the raven mod. Halfway through the game I thought, hmm, I wish I did this instead of that... so I respec'd the group. I didn't realize at the time that this affected what Zevran was wearing. We were in the castle where you have to dress up like a guard. When we put on the disguises, this was ok, but when I took off the disguise, Zevran was fully nude because his stats no longer matched his armor in his inventory. Woops... well, his shoes were still on, at least.. :whistle:

In the end I went with a regular flaccid mod, which made the King look respectful again...huzzah 

I never had nudie werewolves that turned into humans either. They magically appeared in their dumpy commoner clothes.

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don't forget the guard that you can seduce in the Break Out quest in Ft. Drakon... He comes in and you can say, hey, take off that armor... and he takes it off except for the helmet(??) and if you have the erect mod.. you, alistair and the guard are just standing around like "whats up... oh yeah, me too." Plus in the cinematic for Break Out, it pans over a torture rack... everyone had boners. Choked then stretched, hm?



And in Howe's dungeon where you meet the crazy old naked guy... yeah, hard talking to him with a straight face while he's all out there.. and the fire ritual in the Ashes? Uhh..




I forgot the fire ritual during the ashes quest



but the rest where covered under fort drakon and howes dungeon


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Charsen wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Oh, and since we were talking about nude mods, I discovered they are *not* conducive to the lifting the curse scene. Lots of naked werewolf-(re)turned-humans is not what I was expecting. o.O


huh when ever I end the curse the werewolves have clothes on and I dont just mean underwear but shirt, shoes and trousers

the only time the nude modes cause lulz are Howes dungeons+fort drakon and King Cailens boner in return to ostagar


don't forget the guard that you can seduce in the Break Out quest in Ft. Drakon... He comes in and you can say, hey, take off that armor... and he takes it off except for the helmet(??) and if you have the erect mod.. you, alistair and the guard are just standing around like "whats up... oh yeah, me too."  Plus in the cinematic for Break Out, it pans over a torture rack... everyone had boners. Choked then stretched, hm? 

And in Howe's dungeon where you meet the crazy old naked guy... yeah, hard talking to him with a straight face while he's all out there.. and the fire ritual in the Ashes? Uhh.. 

Oh and the worst thing was when I respec'd using the raven mod. Halfway through the game I thought, hmm, I wish I did this instead of that... so I respec'd the group. I didn't realize at the time that this affected what Zevran was wearing. We were in the castle where you have to dress up like a guard. When we put on the disguises, this was ok, but when I took off the disguise, Zevran was fully nude because his stats no longer matched his armor in his inventory. Woops... well, his shoes were still on, at least.. :whistle:

In the end I went with a regular flaccid mod, which made the King look respectful again...huzzah 

I never had nudie werewolves that turned into humans either. They magically appeared in their dumpy commoner clothes.


Oh god.  XD  So many laughs.  I guess I can live wiyjout the nude mods.  XD  Poor Zev.  He can have yet another embarasing tale of unintentional public nudity. 


Aw, Nonvita, thanks for that screencap.  That face.  :crying:<3  If being mean to Alistair is like kicking a puppy, being mean to Zev is like kicking it out a 10th story window.  D:  Boy does he tug on the heartstrings!

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Oh god.  XD  So many laughs.  I guess I can live wiyjout the nude mods.  XD  Poor Zev.  He can have yet another embarasing tale of unintentional public nudity. 


I can hear his voice now...

"In Antiva, after a particularly deadly battle, we celebrate by running through castles wearing only our boots. This is how we were brought up, you see. In the Crows, I did this because it was expected. This does not make you uncomfortable, does it?"

"No.. just... you know, you look a little ...chilly...."

"You are in irritating man."

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Our beloved Antivian is hard to draw. *sigh*



...

heh heh... that's right... it's like the mages with their tower-top, moonlit orgies, right Wynne?

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I go to bed, and what happens? The thread explodes, that's what. Those pics are funny as heck, thank goodness I'm off today. No work-awkwardness, lol.

I would so love a "Zevran after Lothering" mod. *Gets in line*. I can't dl the toolset, my laptop and MSSQL don't like one another for some reason. It has nothing agains the Morrowind/Oblivion/NWN/NWN2 toolsets, though, but that doesn't help me much.

As for him staying an assassin, I guess we can all imagine different things. Would he use his skills to protect himself and the Warden? Heck yeah. I think to protect her, he'd go to any length. Other than that, no, personally I believe he would not pursue an assassin career, unless the Warden wants it.

As for the Crows coming after him again, I can see that (if he's not at the GW HQ), but they would eventually stop. It would be too expensive money and man/woman-power wise if they kept losing their assassins. Not to mention it would be really bad PR for them if it became known that they kept hunting a single AWOL assassin and losing these fights.

As for the "Wynne" fanfic.... I have no words. Do people actually think he is after her? He wants her to shut up, and he does so very efficiently. Aside from that, I do remember him advocating a friend of his to her, which also shuts her up very well. That is just as revolting as the "Cullen as love-interest" notion. Lordsamercy, that guy does nothing but creep me out.

Hi Jenovan. *waves*

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Yay! I'm not the only one awake, now! (is drawing at 4am)



I don't see him doing the sort of assassin for hire work he did for the crows ether, actually... I meant, I think he wouldn't have a problem doing justified assassin work for the people he cares about. Such situations will likely occur given the fragile state Ferelden is in, and the fact they have aggressive neighboring countries that might entertain ideas of weakening Ferelden further once the DS are wiped off the surface. Better to assassinate a handful of corrupt nobility/politicians/generals than have all out warfare with thousands dying and more suffering widows and orphans.



But I agree, he cares enough about others that he wouldn't want to kill for frivolous reasons just to get paid. That's not necessary for his survival anymore.

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I agree, he would help Alistair (the King). I do believe that they become friends during their long quest, and I also think that Zevran (as well as the Warden, especially the HNs) thinks that some people do need killing, but he no longer needs to view assassinations as a power-play. Mostly because it is no longer necessary for him, he has plenty of power now. He loves the Warden, and she loves him right back. He would also not like seeing Alistair's throne being sawed on by corrupt court-members. The Warden and her allies went to heck and back to save Ferelden from destruction, he'd not let any self-serving noble/politician/general/etc, try to destroy it from the inside all over again.


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Sabriana wrote...

I agree, he would help Alistair (the King). I do believe that they become friends during their long quest, and I also think that Zevran (as well as the Warden, especially the HNs) thinks that some people do need killing, but he no longer needs to view assassinations as a power-play. Mostly because it is no longer necessary for him, he has plenty of power now. He loves the Warden, and she loves him right back. He would also not like seeing Alistair's throne being sawed on by corrupt court-members. The Warden and her allies went to heck and back to save Ferelden from destruction, he'd not let any self-serving noble/politician/general/etc, try to destroy it from the inside all over again.


Exactly.  That's how I see it, too.

Oooooooh!!!  I will soon have a drawing to share with you guys!!!  I finaly got a sketch to look right!  He's got his cute crooked smirk going.  <3

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don't forget the guard that you can seduce in the Break Out quest in Ft. Drakon... He comes in and you can say, hey, take off that armor... and he takes it off except for the helmet(??) and if you have the erect mod.. you, alistair and the guard are just standing around like "whats up... oh yeah, me too."  Plus in the cinematic for Break Out, it pans over a torture rack... everyone had boners. Choked then stretched, hm? 



I'm shocked and appalled.  Someone doesn't have Oghren and Zevran rescue them from Fort Drakon?

Gah, the standards in these forums . . . 

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ejoslin wrote...

Charsen wrote...


don't forget the guard that you can seduce in the Break Out quest in Ft. Drakon... He comes in and you can say, hey, take off that armor... and he takes it off except for the helmet(??) and if you have the erect mod.. you, alistair and the guard are just standing around like "whats up... oh yeah, me too."  Plus in the cinematic for Break Out, it pans over a torture rack... everyone had boners. Choked then stretched, hm? 



I'm shocked and appalled.  Someone doesn't have Oghren and Zevran rescue them from Fort Drakon?

Gah, the standards in these forums . . . 


But Zevran would be so proud of the Warden's mastery of seduction skills!  It's a hard choice! :happy:

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Broma Bros. ftw. Or Zevran and Dog. "Hello my Grey Warden. Did you miss me?"

Nope, can't play without hearing that, and neither can my PCs.