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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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oh lord the Riku scene... I wanted to laugh at how bad that was....


every straight guy I have shown that scene comment on how gay it was, same with Axels" Roxas made me feel like I had a heart" creepy pedophile stalker >_>

but serious

annoying damsel in distress girl that got kidnapped again: OH SORA I missed you

Sora: Annoying Damsel in distress are you alright I heard you got kidnapped again! *annoying girl and sora have the most awkward looking hug possible*

Annoying girl: oh Sora guess what that man that looks like the main villain from the previous game over there? hes actualy Riku!

Sora: Riku!? *runs over and falls on his knees and starts crying* BAWL RIKU I MISSED YOU SO MUCH!!! BAAAAWWWWLLLLLLL



lol

I could never play those games.  UUUUUGH... Weird cliche shota characters in silly cloths on an adventure with every anoying Disney character I never liked?  Shoot me now, please.

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Agreed. His voice is so expressive. I love it low and deadly, of course, but also when he's being playful and when he's flirting and and and . . . Alistair, oh yes. "Maker's breath, but you're beautiful." It almost stops my heart. But Zevran's, "Maker's breath, it IS like my mother's," makes me want to hug him forever! And that one isn't even a romance line!

Zev's romance lines . . . forget it. I'm lost completely.

Actually, so much of Zev's romance specific lines are so heartbreaking. Just what he tells his lover, what he trusts the warden with. Whereas Alistair's romance specific lines are all just that. Courtship. I love all the flirts you can have in just the casual conversations with Zevran though. But I think most is how his greetings, the more he starts to care, the happier he sounds when he greets the warden. Alistair does sound more and more infatuated until he falls in love; then he sounds a lot more distant. But Zev just keeps getting happier.


:wub: Yep, that's exactly it! I always wondered if it was just me imagining it, but I swear Zevran's voice changes as the relationship progresses. He starts to do his low, sexy voice more often and he sounds sweeter and warmer. I think what convinced me it's true was watching that video of his Taliesan betrayal- he has none of the warmth in his voice that he does when friendly/in love. It sounded more forced and less natural, if that makes sense...

And Alistair definitely hits all the right notes up until the romance fades. I really wish it weren't such a sudden shift, but it makes sense why it is. At least it makes it easy to romance both in one playthrough without feeling guilty! XD


Both of you are in my head, I think!  I was thinking precisely along these lines the other night.  I dunno - maybe we're reading too much into it, but even if that's true it speaks worlds about how good this is that it allows us to do so.  If you follow me . . .   

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I like to think that when -that day- comes, Zevran goes with the Warden, and they die in combat together... Something about that scenario just feels right...


I don't like to think that, since I like to think they managed to have a child that Zevran will continue caring for... =P
I think being a father would keep him going on, though it's a bittersweet prospect, to say the least.

But they're both extremely sad, extremely romantic, and extremely fitting.

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Nonvita wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

I like to think that when -that day- comes, Zevran goes with the Warden, and they die in combat together... Something about that scenario just feels right...


I don't like to think that, since I like to think they managed to have a child that Zevran will continue caring for... =P
I think being a father would keep him going on, though it's a bittersweet prospect, to say the least.

But they're both extremely sad, extremely romantic, and extremely fitting.


Well, Wardens are practically infertile, so they'd be lucky to have a child. If they -didn't- have a child, then I can see the pair going to the Deep Roads and dying together.

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barkingM1 wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Agreed. His voice is so expressive. I love it low and deadly, of course, but also when he's being playful and when he's flirting and and and . . . Alistair, oh yes. "Maker's breath, but you're beautiful." It almost stops my heart. But Zevran's, "Maker's breath, it IS like my mother's," makes me want to hug him forever! And that one isn't even a romance line!

Zev's romance lines . . . forget it. I'm lost completely.

Actually, so much of Zev's romance specific lines are so heartbreaking. Just what he tells his lover, what he trusts the warden with. Whereas Alistair's romance specific lines are all just that. Courtship. I love all the flirts you can have in just the casual conversations with Zevran though. But I think most is how his greetings, the more he starts to care, the happier he sounds when he greets the warden. Alistair does sound more and more infatuated until he falls in love; then he sounds a lot more distant. But Zev just keeps getting happier.


:wub: Yep, that's exactly it! I always wondered if it was just me imagining it, but I swear Zevran's voice changes as the relationship progresses. He starts to do his low, sexy voice more often and he sounds sweeter and warmer. I think what convinced me it's true was watching that video of his Taliesan betrayal- he has none of the warmth in his voice that he does when friendly/in love. It sounded more forced and less natural, if that makes sense...

And Alistair definitely hits all the right notes up until the romance fades. I really wish it weren't such a sudden shift, but it makes sense why it is. At least it makes it easy to romance both in one playthrough without feeling guilty! XD


Both of you are in my head, I think!  I was thinking precisely along these lines the other night.  I dunno - maybe we're reading too much into it, but even if that's true it speaks worlds about how good this is that it allows us to do so.  If you follow me . . .   


No, I don't think we are reading too much into it.  I hear it with Leliana as well, too.  What is the biggest way to contrast Zev, though, is if you start the romance late (or break up with him) and you can hear the difference between, "you call," with that slight smile on his face and in his voice, and "what say you," which, well, is a bit cold. Just not the same happiness at all.  And you can't even begin to compare his, "Your wish," to "I am yours."  Heh, he sounds SO happy when in love.

Interesting with Alistair, I think his, "Ask away," is far warmer than his, "Anything you need, my dear?"

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Well, Wardens are practically infertile, so they'd be lucky to have a child. If they -didn't- have a child, then I can see the pair going to the Deep Roads and dying together.


Practically infertile. But I like to think that if one man could help her overcome her taint, it's Zevran. :wub:

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Nonvita wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

I like to think that when -that day- comes, Zevran goes with the Warden, and they die in combat together... Something about that scenario just feels right...


I don't like to think that, since I like to think they managed to have a child that Zevran will continue caring for... =P
I think being a father would keep him going on, though it's a bittersweet prospect, to say the least.

But they're both extremely sad, extremely romantic, and extremely fitting.


I definetly see Dristen and Zev going to their death together.  Dristen would never deny him, and what with the dialogue at the gates about the Black City... it seems inevitable.  Besides, the two are so much alike in personality and practicaly joined at the hip in battle half the time... lol  I can't imagine any other ending for the pair.

I think a more peaceful ending with possible children would make more sence in an ending where you took the tyrne/tyrna boon and Zev stays with you... That would be a good situation.  I want to do this with my FCE.  Maybe they can open an orphanage, too.  Someone somewhere in ferelden needs to adress the orphan issue, and I'd rather it not be the Chantry.

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Nonvita wrote...

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Well, Wardens are practically infertile, so they'd be lucky to have a child. If they -didn't- have a child, then I can see the pair going to the Deep Roads and dying together.


Practically infertile. But I like to think that if one man could help her overcome her taint, it's Zevran. :wub:


True... And you KNOW they'd enjoy trying.

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Ok, so Tevinter warehouse:  I was wrong, Zevran does give +4 for rejecting Caladrius' offer to use the elves' life energy for a constitution boost (once you've kicked Caladrius' ass and he's on his last legs).  No bump for attacking the Tevinters initially, however.  Though he certainly gives a stern plea for the Warden to think twice about dealing with them.  In both cases, in order to trigger the party chatter you have to talk first to Caladrius rather than storming in with the "die, slaver!" lines.

I even did the unthinkable and told Caladrius he could take the slaves and go.  Zevran challenges you again, there is a Persuade check where you can tell him he's an assassin and shouldn't mind trading money for lives.  He gives a bitter reply acknowledging that he has less ground than others to judge your actions.  The approval loss is only -5, however.  It was -10 for Alistair.  (Edit:  This is with max Coercion on the Persuade check.  I'm sure the approval loss is greater, probably much greater, otherwise.)

Zevran warning you to look in the elves' eyes before you deal.  I imagine his subtext is to look in his.


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Aw, that's so sweet Addai! I'll have to try that out then reload. Good to know that by talking I can at least squeeze a few more approval points out of him. XD



His expression there, as always, is priceless. =)

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It's one of the few times in the game where you see Zevran truly angry with the warden.

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Addai67 wrote...



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it looks like hes Immitating Wynn! except he looks so much hotter :drools:

lol

I could never play those games.  UUUUUGH... Weird cliche
shota characters in silly cloths on an adventure with every anoying
Disney character I never liked?  Shoot me now, please.


heres the scene I was mocking earlier just dont drink anything while watching it


Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 04 mars 2010 - 02:26 .


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Oh wow.. Even looking angry at the Warden he's amazingly hot...

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SurrealSadi wrote...

Oh wow.. Even looking angry at the Warden he's amazingly hot...


that he does

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

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Oh wow.. Even looking angry at the Warden he's amazingly hot...


that he does


Gah... I'm trying to not play tonight... I was ill last night, and thus couldn't (stupid tummy issues <.<), because tomorrow PS3 players get a 'game update' before next week's RtO release....

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you knwo the amazingly hot comment is also back up by the fact he has flaming daggers equipped to his back lulz

#4817
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lol. I just noticed that, now that you mentioned it.

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I just love the harness.



Not that a mage needs such things...

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I know its a mage-type robe, but what one?

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Chaisend robes

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Ooh, so that's what they look like on a guy....On a female they look kinda... well... trampy

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*Yipes!*



Still at work and clicked on the picture.....Hope there's no IT guys here tonight monitoring me!



Nice picture there of Zev in the robes *drool, drool and drool* <3






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SurrealSadi wrote...

Ooh, so that's what they look like on a guy....On a female they look kinda... well... trampy


Trampy in the best possible kind of way! :innocent:

Now I am off to try and get some awkward BSC screenies. Er, for research purposes...

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I love the harness, but the cut of the top gives a ...moobs effect.... it makes it look like something should be there when it's not... *snerk* Now, if they left more of the chest exposed, with more straps to the ring... then you'd have one VERY sexy chasind robe.



*watches that youtube video* UuuUuugh... god.... I wish you could have seen the look on my face, because truly words can not describe, and emotacons fail to capture, the epic fail that is..... whatever it is that I just witnessed.... That was like... really, really bad fanfiction, braught to live with bad art... and the most horrible voice acting... And yet there are people still desperately holding out hope for a sequell? The bloody ****...!? That was to video game cutscenes what Avril is to music.

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SurrealSadi wrote...

Ooh, so that's what they look like on a guy....On a female they look kinda... well... trampy


*grin* I was thinking, on him, they look remarkably kinky.  Oh, in a very good way.