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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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ejoslin

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Addai67 wrote...

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It's a feeling I get, that perhaps his time at the chantry was a break from an otherwise pretty bad existence.  He talks about being taught about sex there, about the occasional beating, refers to all of that as "old scars," and such.  He also talks about asking for forgiveness and being devout and such.  He doesn't sound scarred from what he learned at the Chantry.  And as Addai67 said, he definitely was in awe when walking into Andastre's final resting place.

It's cute also that he will make a comment as you pass Maferath's statue:  "That is Maferath, the husband of Andraste.  [pause]  What?  I went to the Chantry often as a child!"   The way he says it makes it a lulz, but I interpret the background as being serious.  Why would he go to the Chantry often if he hated it?  Who in the wh*rehouse would make him go?


*grin* Grammar and context is such an art. I cringe sometimes when I see things of mine quoted.  Of course, I meant that he talks about being taught about sex at the wh*rehouse, not the chantry!

I got that feeling too, though.  Especially when you walk into Andastre's resting place and he says, "Mother of mercy, it IS real!" His voice there is very reverent.  I think it is at least.

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Miss me guys ? Good to be back on line. Welcome to the new folks, GREAT drawing and fun screenies.



I can't wait to try the ZEVASAP mod.



Well, I am trying to be really careful about Getting Alistair to love, then breaking up to go with Zev. Just had the alistair "I only want sex with you" dialog. What that means is he will now ignore me except to ask for beer .... Between the two, Zevran is definitely the better long-term partner! Alistair is a cutie, no question about it. but once he has you , you are totally taken for granted. I found myself getting angry this entire playthrough :) Can't wait to dump him... DAMN sexy voice and all...



I think the "gesture" is just one of boredom. Regarding Zev's emotions---remember the crack about wanting a vase like that ? I think as usual, Zevran is hiding his emotions with humor. The gesture is probably his attempt to look bored. Anyway, that's how I read it. Also, his spiritual sense is not necessarily a resounding endorsement for Chantry bigotry and rules. He's much more truly spiritual than Leliana, for example.



Good luck on exams everyone !

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Hm. ejoslin, I'm in the Ruined Temple with Titian right now. Granted, I have Al and Morrigan in my party only because I find this group the easiest to play with, combat-wise. I need to broaden my horizons in another playthrough. Anyway, when I get to that point, I'll have to pay better attention.



Though, his comment about the vase and needing one for his home is great.

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Addai67 wrote...
Why would he go to the Chantry often if he hated it?


To look at all the beautiful, unattainable Chantry sisters and wonder if they got drunk on all the wine they made? :wizard:

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ejoslin wrote...

It was the only save I had at the Tower.  He is a sexy beast though.  I think it may be a sign that he needs to get played.  

Wow, Morrigan throws herself at him, though, as does Leliana.  That's just weird for some reason. The game definitely has a different feel with a male warden.

I find my Aedan quite sexy, too.  Especially the voice- not sure who the VA is but rawr!  (it's the cocky voice)  I had him on ice for a long time, the S&S is soooo boooooring, but he is far enough along now that I don't want to re-start him as a DW.  I think I'm going to go through with my plan, though, to control Zevran mostly and let the PC be his boring tank self apart from the occasional shield bash.

Morrigan's romance heated up very quickly, but I've been avoiding Leliana with him.  Girl makes me nervous!  LOL

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Just updated the Nexus with the ZevranASAP. Now I have to grade some exams, then I'll do the tutorial for mod installations =)

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@ Raiynsong, welcome back! The Alistair romance . . . it does fizzle out early, unfortunately. I love his voice too, and I enjoy the romance. But I love it when Zevran forces my warden to choose! Today she spoke with Alistair instead of Zevran, and there were two opportunities to tell Alistair, "I love Zevran." That surprised me. Your warden doesn't have to play it casual at ALL. Of course, telling Alistair that leads to a HUGE approval loss. I reloaded and spoke with Zevran and got the usual +16 approval from him and +1 approval from Al. And glitched it into love (I know how to do that on a NHF, so I cheat).



The comment I mean about Zevran is when you first walk into the room. Someone in the party usually comments, and when it's Zevran, he says, "Mother of Mercy! It IS real!" He sounds in complete awe. Now, Alistair makes a great comment afterwards, IF you drink the dragon blood.



Oh, Addai67, the voice is crazy wowza, especially compared to the female who sounds so lame. My Aedan is a rogue, and mmmmmmm! I like two rogues in a party, so Zev will be by his side always. I'll probably do the Morrigan romance, but I have a feeling I will be reeling in confusion. In fact, I already am. I asked my husband if women really were this confusing, and he said, "Yes, but we love you anyway."



I have an Elissa that's half way through. Alistair is dumped in a way that shouldn't have him have the "still in love" flag, so they will probably end up married.

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Addai67 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

It's a feeling I get, that perhaps his time at the chantry was a break from an otherwise pretty bad existence.  He talks about being taught about sex there, about the occasional beating, refers to all of that as "old scars," and such.  He also talks about asking for forgiveness and being devout and such.  He doesn't sound scarred from what he learned at the Chantry.  And as Addai67 said, he definitely was in awe when walking into Andastre's final resting place.

It's cute also that he will make a comment as you pass Maferath's statue:  "That is Maferath, the husband of Andraste.  [pause]  What?  I went to the Chantry often as a child!"   The way he says it makes it a lulz, but I interpret the background as being serious.  Why would he go to the Chantry often if he hated it?  Who in the wh*rehouse would make him go?

I figure it's because it was peaceful (no beatings, no killings) and pretty (stained glass, tapestries, fragrant incense, pretty music).  It seems they treated Crow assassins pretty well but for trainees life was pretty grim.  A break from that would be welcome. 

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SurrealSadi

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You mean before the Trial by Fire? Hm. Must pay attention.





Oh, great.. Now I have a Journey song stuck in my <.<

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Anyone else thinks that this point desperately needs a cutscene? Maybe I could request it from the DT modder...

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Could use one.... :)

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Sresla, your elf is quite sexy! Although I'd worry about confusing him and Zevran...

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Sresla, your PC is smokin'! :wub:
Hmm, do you mean a cutscene for a response from your selected second?  that would be pretty awesome. XD  (I didn't do the Provings for Alessar's playthrough -- d'oh...)

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If you side with Bhelan(sp?), you can do the Proving after going to Aeducan Thaig.

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Really? You have to accept the first part of Harrowmont's quest, though, right?

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Nope. Just stick with Bhelan all the way, and you can still do the Proving fights. You just need to go get Lord Dace from Aeducan Thaig first. :)

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ejoslin wrote...

Oh, Addai67, the voice is crazy wowza, especially compared to the female who sounds so lame. My Aedan is a rogue, and mmmmmmm! I like two rogues in a party, so Zev will be by his side always. I'll probably do the Morrigan romance, but I have a feeling I will be reeling in confusion. In fact, I already am. I asked my husband if women really were this confusing, and he said, "Yes, but we love you anyway."

I have an Elissa that's half way through. Alistair is dumped in a way that shouldn't have him have the "still in love" flag, so they will probably end up married.

I love it that Morrigan will randomly refuse you tent time just because she doesn't feel like it.  Is that supposed to be a commentary on women?  LOL  Her comment if you try to go with Isabela is also funny.  My nobleman playa is going to be a one-woman man for the first time in his life.  Heh, Alistair's comment when Aedan tells him he's had sex "many, many times" is also funny.  Oh, but poor Ali... the other part of that discussion is him commenting on the fact that he's probably going to die before he ever gets a woman.

My new HNF will probably be another Ali-girl.  Much as you guys and your royal scandals sound fun, I just feel like King Alistair and Queen Cousland is my thing, almost my canon story if I didn't enjoy the Zevran romance so much.

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Addai67 wrote...

My new HNF will probably be another Ali-girl.  Much as you guys and your royal scandals sound fun, I just feel like King Alistair and Queen Cousland is my thing, almost my canon story if I didn't enjoy the Zevran romance so much.


You know it's MY canon story.  But I just prefer the Zevran romance and the political marriage ending, so I will stay with the royal scandal!

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ejoslin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

My new HNF will probably be another Ali-girl.  Much as you guys and your royal scandals sound fun, I just feel like King Alistair and Queen Cousland is my thing, almost my canon story if I didn't enjoy the Zevran romance so much.


You know it's MY canon story.  But I just prefer the Zevran romance and the political marriage ending, so I will stay with the royal scandal!


The politcal marriage and Zev's royal scandal is how I'm doing Titian's tale... Just seems so fun.

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gah WHY are bioware terrible at making default characters? the mage you get during the tower of ishal is *worthless* without healing magic and he has a grand total of 1 diable spell and it only affects 1 character!



also Alexander took a break from the landsmeet to help Oghren find felsi (felsi is awesome BTW)

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Nonvita wrote...

Sresla, your elf is quite sexy! Although I'd worry about confusing him and Zevran...


Sandor thanks you. Oddly enough, this is a line from my story:

'Not that surprising,' grunted Oghren. 'Nothing Zevran loves more than Zevran or his hair, so for him, it's probably like looking into a mirror and he thinks he's died and gone to the ancestors to be bedding another version of himself.'

I had sort of meant that as a joke about the fact that they share the same hairstyle.:P

But yes, I meant this:

jenovan wrote...

Hmm,
do you mean a cutscene for a response from your selected second?  that
would be pretty awesome. XD


I did go ahead and message the DT person about it. I know nothing about modding but it seems that if you could put a kiss cutscene in from "stock footage" for the kiss, you might be able to do the same at this juncture and allow him to show up and say something (too bad the 'By your side I would willingly storm the Black City' might not be appropriate if the romance isn't far enough along at this point).

Modifié par Sresla, 09 mars 2010 - 12:35 .


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 *twins* Basil... *twins*... :devil:

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Addai67 wrote...

I love it that Morrigan will randomly refuse you tent time just because she doesn't feel like it.  Is that supposed to be a commentary on women?  LOL  Her comment if you try to go with Isabela is also funny.  My nobleman playa is going to be a one-woman man for the first time in his life.  Heh, Alistair's comment when Aedan tells him he's had sex "many, many times" is also funny.  Oh, but poor Ali... the other part of that discussion is him commenting on the fact that he's probably going to die before he ever gets a woman.


Heh, my mage has left the decision to Morrigan many, many times, and she refuses every single time.  Does she ever say "yes" after consulting her capricious nature?  (Suffice it to say, though, her attitude is only driving Amell to Zevran faster... :innocent: )
On the other hand, Morri does seem quite entertained when you order her to the tent. :P

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sami jo wrote...

Charsen wrote...

sadly, since i am also a TA, i not only get to take midterms, but i have to grade them too. i have 180 exams to grade by midnight tonight... happy. I get it from both ends, and I don't even get dinner first
:crying:


Grad school is a bit like paying to be tortured.  I love what I do, but if I had it to do over I am not entirely certain that I would spend all that time and money for those three extra letters after my name.

ugh....don't mind me though, i'm just in a bad mood after my exam and directly thereafter breaking up with my boyfriend at lunch. angry coding is always more productive anyways. and positively fuming coding is even better. i just have to get in a better mood before i grade their exams, otherwise they will cry all break long at my lack of caring


I hope your week improves.




Totally random, and I haven't posted here yet, but grad school FTL! (For the lose).  I'm a 3rd year PhD student and it took me 3 months to get through Dragon Age.  And my thesis is still only like 5 pages blaaaaaaaaaaaah whyyyyyy?

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jenovan wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

I love it that Morrigan will randomly refuse you tent time just because she doesn't feel like it.  Is that supposed to be a commentary on women?  LOL  Her comment if you try to go with Isabela is also funny.  My nobleman playa is going to be a one-woman man for the first time in his life.  Heh, Alistair's comment when Aedan tells him he's had sex "many, many times" is also funny.  Oh, but poor Ali... the other part of that discussion is him commenting on the fact that he's probably going to die before he ever gets a woman.


Heh, my mage has left the decision to Morrigan many, many times, and she refuses every single time.  Does she ever say "yes" after consulting her capricious nature?  (Suffice it to say, though, her attitude is only driving Amell to Zevran faster... :innocent: )
On the other hand, Morri does seem quite entertained when you order her to the tent. :P


yes Morrigan will say yes if you leave the descision to her from time to time

of coarse once she falls in love however she just outright refuses to sleep with you period