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Addai67 wrote...

Have you seen the comic on Bioware blog?  It's writen by Gaider, too, so it's authoritative even if it doesn't apply to all our games.

I not only don't see Morrigan as sociopathic, I don't even see her as evil.  When she says that only survival and power has meaning, my elven characters nod their heads, even if they're less ruthlessly pragmatic about that approach to life than she is.  I mean, you've obviously concluded that Loghain can be pardoned for his ruthlessness, but not Morrigan?  [Edit:  Oh, and I also don't see the Dark Ritual as being evil.  I'm convinced Morrigan is going to save the world with that demon baby of hers.  And I'm going to cheer about it if she does!  I just heart the character... not to mention that I find her indispensable as a mage.]
Not to derail from Zevran... Zevran, Zevran... how my Sereda will love you.  Image IPB  I hope.  I still can't quite see the elf-dwarf thing, but I am getting there.  Realizing how lost she must feel from being suddenly made casteless helps me get inside her.  I think Zevran will find it intriguing that she's a dwarven princess bereft of her kingdom.  That, and maybe he hasn't slept with a dwarf before (that's my theory on the smiles!!) and so at first it will be all novelty.  For both of them, probably.


Elf/Dwarf is SO taboo; absolutely no one would approve of it.  I loved that, really.  And him smiling the entire tent scene was just great.  My DC clicked with him because they were so much alike, but my DN fought it the entire way.  She's the one (well, of two -- my first playthrough, the Alistair dumped one, also didn't) that didn't go to the tent until after the proposal.

And CZ, yes, if the Zevran romance is handled badly, that WOULD cure me.  And I could get on with FF13 (which my husband bought for me, hoping it would get me off my PC and onto the xbox).  My kids, they just roll their eyes at this point.  Though they have been complaining that I get more videogame time than they do (by FAR).  I tell them it's because I don't have homework!

Edit: Ok, see, THIS is what I mean.  I talk about dwarf sex in a post, and it's at the very top of a page.  If it were profound or insightful, it'd be at the bottom, like second to last or something.

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 mars 2010 - 09:48 .


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And CZ, yes, if the Zevran romance is handled badly, that WOULD cure me.
 And I could get on with FF13 (which my husband bought for me, hoping
it would get me off my PC and onto the xbox).  My kids, they just roll
their eyes at this point.  Though they have been complaining that I get
more videogame time than they do (by FAR).  I tell them it's because I
don't have homework!


lol

the only video games my parents touch are Wiik bowlign and games on face book which she pretty much plays all day long

good thing we have multiple pcs in the house (2 laptops and 2 normal ones)


also you know what would be nice...the earring he gives you turns out to be equippible in Awakenings

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 11 mars 2010 - 09:53 .


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Cuddlezarro wrote...

And CZ, yes, if the Zevran romance is handled badly, that WOULD cure me.
 And I could get on with FF13 (which my husband bought for me, hoping
it would get me off my PC and onto the xbox).  My kids, they just roll
their eyes at this point.  Though they have been complaining that I get
more videogame time than they do (by FAR).  I tell them it's because I
don't have homework!


lol

the only video games my parents touch are Wiik bowlign and games on face book which she pretty much plays all day long

good thing we have multiple pcs in the house (2 laptops and 2 normal ones)


also you know what would be nice...the earring he gives you turns out to be equippible in Awakenings



Hell, it would be nice if it appeared in your inventory! 

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Why do you think elf/dwarf pairing is taboo? I don't recall anything about that.

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Addai67 wrote...

Why do you think elf/dwarf pairing is taboo? I don't recall anything about that.


Typical elf/dwarf rivalry.  It probably isn't really taboo, but I liked to think of it as exceedingly rare. :wub:

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Hell, it would be nice if it appeared in your inventory! 

(that's the small mod i'm releasing on monday)

edit: well it's already in your plot inventory, but i mean, i turned it into a real item

Modifié par Charsen, 11 mars 2010 - 10:00 .


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Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Hell, it would be nice if it appeared in your inventory! 

(that's the small mod i'm releasing on monday)


<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3<3

You are . . . WONDERFUL!  Thank you thank you thank you!

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Charsen, you're great! :D It's definitely squee-worthy!

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Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Hell, it would be nice if it appeared in your inventory! 

(that's the small mod i'm releasing on monday)

edit: well it's already in your plot inventory, but i mean, i turned it into a real item

Awwwww, hooray!! Image IPB
(The sound of squee will be thunderous, I'm sure. Image IPB)

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Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Hell, it would be nice if it appeared in your inventory! 

(that's the small mod i'm releasing on monday)

edit: well it's already in your plot inventory, but i mean, i turned it into a real item


Charsen :wub::wub::wub:

heres a pic of Xander and Zev torturing Loghain to hold you over till im done taking the pics I promised earlier

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=) i was also annoyed that it was only a plot item, wtf Zev, way to be cheap!

edit: lol, loghain... what a creepfreak

Modifié par Charsen, 11 mars 2010 - 10:07 .


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[quote]ejoslin wrote...

[quote]Addai67 wrote...

Have you seen the comic on Bioware blog?  It's writen by Gaider, too, so it's authoritative even if it doesn't apply to all our games.

I not only don't see Morrigan as sociopathic, I don't even see her as evil.  When she says that only survival and power has meaning, my elven characters nod their heads, even if they're less ruthlessly pragmatic about that approach to life than she is.  I mean, you've obviously concluded that Loghain can be pardoned for his ruthlessness, but not Morrigan?  [Edit:  Oh, and I also don't see the Dark Ritual as being evil.  I'm convinced Morrigan is going to save the world with that demon baby of hers.  And I'm going to cheer about it if she does!  I just heart the character... not to mention that I find her indispensable as a mage.]

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Well that's one theory of Morrigan and I actually took her that way the first and second playthroughs. It was when my mage didn't do *any* of her quests about the grimoires [amd she still approved over 90%, go figure] that I came to the realization that she had only one agenda--to get that GodBaby. Now, either that's a writer/programmer failing or she knows exactly what she wants from the second she joins the party, Flemeth saves you *only* to give it to her [for whatever reasons they're in cahoots, might just be convenience] and her whole Flemeth/grimoire party line is bullcrap. And she does *nothing* for anyone else, ever.

The dif is that Loghain genuinely loves his daughter, and however misguided/arrogant/dark or self-absorbed, he actually does have a bigger agenda than his own desires.

Yes, I see where she *acts* vulnerable--however it so mirrors Leliana's behaviour that like a sociopath I have to wonder if it's not the same chameleon act.

She hasn't learned anything from her cold upbringing by Flemeth--if she did [and yes I'm going for GodBaby this time to see the results] and letting her raise a child without someone else to stop her from spreading her poison is about the creepiest thing I can imagine because she approves of Flemeth's parenting skills.

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Charsen wrote...

=) i was also annoyed that it was only a plot item, wtf Zev, way to be cheap!


im annoyed it doesnt even show up in your inventory if you make him do the proposal instead of accepting it the first time!

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I wrote NOTHING that Swifty has me quoted as saying in their above post! And I disagree with it, which makes it worse.  Please be careful with your attributions!

Edit: And yes, CZ, that is the worst part (the only bad part) about turning down the earring the first time and getting a proposal instead.  HOWEVER, an actual earring . . . oooooooh!:wub:

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 mars 2010 - 10:12 .


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i think i can fix that too

edit: but i have to think about compatibility with other mods so i will have to research other mods that might touch zev's stuff, but i will look into this

Modifié par Charsen, 11 mars 2010 - 10:10 .


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Only if by equiping it, it magically enables you to see him with his clothes off. Sort of like the No Helmet hack, except all over. Or like Superman's x-ray vision. Or my imagination. Mostly my imagination.

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Sresla wrote...
Only if by equiping it, it magically enables you to see him with his clothes off. Sort of like the No Helmet hack, except all over. Or like Superman's x-ray vision. Or my imagination. Mostly my imagination.


"I'll only take it if it means something"
"Just... just take it."
*takes it*
"TADA! IT'S NAKED TIME!!"

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Charsen wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Hell, it would be nice if it appeared in your inventory! 

(that's the small mod i'm releasing on monday)

edit: well it's already in your plot inventory, but i mean, i turned it into a real item

We dub you Saint Charsen the Benevolent.

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Charsen wrote...

Sresla wrote...
Only if by equiping it, it magically enables you to see him with his clothes off. Sort of like the No Helmet hack, except all over. Or like Superman's x-ray vision. Or my imagination. Mostly my imagination.


"I'll only take it if it means something"
"Just... just take it."
*takes it*
"TADA! IT'S NAKED TIME!!"

Best accessory ever. Image IPB

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Swifty, I think you and I are playing different games altogether. But to each her own.

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Addai67 wrote...

Why do you think elf/dwarf pairing is taboo? I don't recall anything about that.


Actually elf-anything is taboo in elven culture. The elves marry their own. The dwarves would obviously lose their caste.

So yeah--that would be double taboo.

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jenovan wrote...

Charsen wrote...

Sresla wrote...
Only if by equiping it, it magically enables you to see him with his clothes off. Sort of like the No Helmet hack, except all over. Or like Superman's x-ray vision. Or my imagination. Mostly my imagination.


"I'll only take it if it means something"
"Just... just take it."
*takes it*
"TADA! IT'S NAKED TIME!!"

Best accessory ever. Image IPB



QFT
also totally not safe for work pictures involving Xander, Zev and Loghain are ready to be uploaded :devil:

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ejoslin wrote...

I wrote NOTHING that Swifty has me quoted as saying in their above post! And I disagree with it, which makes it worse.  Please be careful with your attributions!

Edit: And yes, CZ, that is the worst part (the only bad part) about turning down the earring the first time and getting a proposal instead.  HOWEVER, an actual earring . . . oooooooh!:wub:


sorry I don't quote well [that's an understatement]:blink:

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Addai67 wrote...

Swifty, I think you and I are playing different games altogether. But to each her own.


Naw I just think we're coming at it from two different perspectives. Which is fine. I'm a great believer in diverse viewpoints, as much as that may surprise you.;)

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Swifty wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I wrote NOTHING that Swifty has me quoted as saying in their above post! And I disagree with it, which makes it worse.  Please be careful with your attributions!

Edit: And yes, CZ, that is the worst part (the only bad part) about turning down the earring the first time and getting a proposal instead.  HOWEVER, an actual earring . . . oooooooh!:wub:


sorry I don't quote well [that's an understatement]:blink:


Pretty please try to fix it :wizard:  I'd be very happy!  At least cut my name OUT!  *grin* If I agreed with it I wouldn't mind as much.  But gah knows I get into enough arguments here with people I actually agree with!

LOL, it's not really a big deal.  But I have to throw a fuss about it anyway!

Meanwhile, Charsen, :wub:  I think they made the smiley just for you!

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 mars 2010 - 10:21 .