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[Cuddlezarro]

well Im going to go to bed



but when i wake up Im going to be taking Screenshots of Loghain participating in Morrigans ritual! why because his suffering hasnt been enough yet!

[Minaleth]

Sabriana wrote...

Lol, Minaleth. First the warning, and then pushing me to the what could be the most addicting pages. That's funny.
Thank goodness I still have lots of errands to run this morning, or I'll be hopelessly engrossed right now. As is, I won't even be touching it until I get back later on.

Wise decision, that is.
You know you can't resist, neither can I. So there is no point in keeping you people away from links It's same with chocolate *munch, munch*

Modifié par Minaleth, 13 mars 2010 - 08:21 .

[SurrealSadi]

Oh, can't wait to see Cuddle!! I want to see how horrified he is of it!

[Sannox]

Charsen wrote...

BTW just noticed while doing the DT stuff:

when Zevran says "An assassin... must learn to forget about sentiment. It is dangerous. You take your pleasures where you can, when life is good. To expect anything more would be reckless." or "I thought it was th esame between us. Something to enjoy, a pleasant diversion and a little more. And yet..."

comment reads: "very awkward -- he is in love with the player but uncomfortable discussing it"

when Zevran replies to "Are you saying you're in love with me?" the comment is: "embarassed that he knows nothing about love"


Additionally if you say "That's all it is to me, Zevran." but say "We don't need to end this, Zevran", he will reply with "I do."

the comment is: "there should be some hesitancy when he says this -- the player might not need to end this, but he does. And he can't just blurt it out. This is an awkward thing to have to tell someone."

He ends the dialog with the VO comment "grim"

Thanks very much for posting this.   I don't have a clue how to use the toolset but it looks like I'm going to have to learn, just so that I can find these conversations. 

I think the voice acting is great in these lines. 

[Sabriana]

Good night Cuddles. Lordy, it sucks to be Loghain in your games



*Gives Minaleth the evil eye*

[SurrealSadi]

Yanno, this has been bugging me a while.. Kolgrim, up in the Mountain before the Temple of Andraste, looks a lot like Leonidas in 300... Wonder if that's just me or if anyone else caught it.

[Sabriana]

He sure does, Sadi. Especially here:

[SurrealSadi]

*snicker*

[Sannox]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

well Im going to go to bed

but when i wake up Im going to be taking Screenshots of Loghain participating in Morrigans ritual! why because his suffering hasnt been enough yet!

Does he suffer?  I know when I persuaded Alistair to go through with the ritual he looked like he was enjoying it when it came to the cut scene.   And no guilt trips afterwards, apparently.   I was a bit fed up because it had taken so much work to get him in my tent earlier in the game. 

[SurrealSadi]

Welp, off to the Landsmeet to make Alistair King and Titian Princess-Consort.

[Kryyptehk]

Sannox wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

well Im going to go to bed

but
when i wake up Im going to be taking Screenshots of Loghain
participating in Morrigans ritual! why because his suffering hasnt been
enough yet!

Does he suffer?  I know when I persuaded
Alistair to go through with the ritual he looked like he was enjoying
it when it came to the cut scene.   And no guilt trips afterwards,
apparently.   I was a bit fed up because it had taken so much work to
get him in my tent earlier in the game. 

Really?
Alistair looked terrified to me. But I think it is the default
expression, because I just did a playthrough with a man and he looked
horrified. And he romanced Morrigan, (along with Zevran and Leliana. He
was a pimp this time around lol)

[e-ver]

Since quite a few don't have access to the toolset (console players, toolset refusing to work, etc.), but seem to enjoy seeing the voiceover comments, I'll post some.

I find the scenes where Zevran comments on the PC's decisions to be particularly interesting. I'm not sure how to best post the dialogue trees, hopefully you'll be able to follow it.

Here for example are his comments about Ruck:

PC (after conversation with Ruck): I should go.

Zevran: I am not what one would call a sympathetic man, but seeing him like this pains me. (cool)

We should at least put him out of his misery. (emotionless)

Ruck: Is not so bad. The dark and the burning keeps Ruck warm... warm like Mother's arms--

Zevran: His mind is gone, and his body will soon follow. I have seen victims of poisoning in better shape. (disdainful)

PC: He may not live as we do, but that's no reason to kill him.

Zevran (if Persuasion check succeded): I guess you're right. We'll just leave him here to his fate.(grundging)

Zevran (if Persuasion check failed): That is not my point. (cold)

He is no longer who he used to be. If his sanity were intact, he wouldn't want this. (with distaste)

I suppose you will do as you wish. (giving up)

or

PC: Perhaps you're right.

Zevran: I hate to say it, but leaving him alive is crueler than just killing him. (not a lot of emotion at the thought)

or

PC: Enough. I will not have you questioning my decisions.

Zevran: So I am to follow you like a dog and have no say in what we do? I see how it is. (angry)

I suppose you will do as you wish. (giving up)

[Sannox]

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sannox wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

well Im going to go to bed

but
when i wake up Im going to be taking Screenshots of Loghain
participating in Morrigans ritual! why because his suffering hasnt been
enough yet!

Does he suffer?  I know when I persuaded
Alistair to go through with the ritual he looked like he was enjoying
it when it came to the cut scene.   And no guilt trips afterwards,
apparently.   I was a bit fed up because it had taken so much work to
get him in my tent earlier in the game. 

Really?
Alistair looked terrified to me. But I think it is the default
expression, because I just did a playthrough with a man and he looked
horrified. And he romanced Morrigan, (along with Zevran and Leliana. He
was a pimp this time around lol)

That's strange. He was smiling in my cut scene. In fact, it was just like the cut scene with my male PC (who was already sleeping with Morrigan). Or maybe I misintepreted the expression. I'll see if I can get a screencap.

ETA: I rest my case.

Modifié par Sannox, 13 mars 2010 - 10:12 .

[e-ver]

I'm not really an Alistair fan, but I can't disapprove of this picture. I have a thing for collarbones.

[Sannox]

Yes, he's rather sexy in that scene. Maybe I should have lied and pretended he had to do the ritual with me, and then afterwards said 'Oops, I meant Morrigan' .

Or maybe that he had to do it with Zevran.   While I watched.  That would work.

Modifié par Sannox, 13 mars 2010 - 10:33 .

[Sabriana]

Thanks for the postings, Allerleihrau. Gah! I so wish... oh well, nevermind.

Wow on the Alistair picture. That is while he's with Morrigan? I've never let my PC allow the DR, but I saw Loghain on YouTube. He looks horrified and disgusted.

Hmm, being how Alistair is, that could also be an embarrassed grin (battling serious things with humor, sort of), but.., hmm, well.

I wish there were witers comments on cut-scenes, then I could pester Allerleihrau some more.

[Kryyptehk]

Sannox wrote...

Kryyptehk wrote...

Sannox wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

well Im going to go to bed

but
when i wake up Im going to be taking Screenshots of Loghain
participating in Morrigans ritual! why because his suffering hasnt been
enough yet!

Does he suffer?  I know when I persuaded
Alistair to go through with the ritual he looked like he was enjoying
it when it came to the cut scene.   And no guilt trips afterwards,
apparently.   I was a bit fed up because it had taken so much work to
get him in my tent earlier in the game. 

Really?
Alistair looked terrified to me. But I think it is the default
expression, because I just did a playthrough with a man and he looked
horrified. And he romanced Morrigan, (along with Zevran and Leliana. He
was a pimp this time around lol)

That's strange. He was smiling in my cut scene. In fact, it was just like the cut scene with my male PC (who was already sleeping with Morrigan). Or maybe I misintepreted the expression. I'll see if I can get a screencap.

ETA: I rest my case.

Maybe it's just me, but it looks like he's grimacing to me. Like, "Oh Maker, I must be in some horrible nightmare."

But, I dunno, that's just my opinion.

And quoted for my Alistair sexyness

[Minaleth]

@toolset comments: Sometimes I wish the PC dialogue choices had VO comments directly in game, maybe it would prevent some wtf 'Nuuuuu, I didn't mean it like this' moments.

Modifié par Minaleth, 13 mars 2010 - 10:39 .

[e-ver]

@ Sabriana

Feel free to "pester" me, if you're interested in the comments for a particular scene. I don't mind at all.
(Not all dialogue lines have them though.)

To be honest, I don't know if cutscenes have comments. It's quite possible that they are there, somewhere. I am a complete newbie when it comes to the toolset though. I am used to modding Bethesda games, but this toolset scares me a little to be honest.

If I find something, I'll be sure to tell you.

[Sabriana]

Agreed, Minaleth. I have the game installed in English (not my mother-tongue), and in the beginning it felt like: "What? What did I say?"

Thanks Allerleihrau. I had so much fun with the NWN/NWN2 toolset, and with the Morrowind/Oblivion one. I simply hate that I can't install this one.

[Minaleth]

Sabriana wrote...
Agreed, Minaleth. I have the game installed in English (not my mother-tongue), and in the beginning it felt like: "What? What did I say?"

It's even worse when someone asks the PC if they agree (esp Zev is an expert in this). The possible replies are basically yes or no. Unfortunately negation works differently in english and my first language and I always get confused which answer is which.

[e-ver]

What exactly is your problem with the toolset, Sabriana? I'm guessing the "unable to connect to database" error?

[Sannox]

Minaleth wrote...

Sabriana wrote...
Agreed, Minaleth. I have the game installed in English (not my mother-tongue), and in the beginning it felt like: "What? What did I say?"

It's even worse when someone asks the PC if they agree (esp Zev is an expert in this). The possible replies are basically yes or no. Unfortunately negation works differently in english and my first language and I always get confused which answer is which.

English is my first (and virtually only) language, but I struggle with some of the options.  Sometimes I'll choose an option and the characters seem to think it means the opposite of what I meant it to mean. 

[Mimsypeach]

Sannox wrote...

Minaleth wrote...

Sabriana wrote...
Agreed, Minaleth. I have the game installed in English (not my mother-tongue), and in the beginning it felt like: "What? What did I say?"

It's even worse when someone asks the PC if they agree (esp Zev is an expert in this). The possible replies are basically yes or no. Unfortunately negation works differently in english and my first language and I always get confused which answer is which.

English is my first (and virtually only) language, but I struggle with some of the options.  Sometimes I'll choose an option and the characters seem to think it means the opposite of what I meant it to mean. 

THIS. Cannot explain my confusion when I meant for my PC to say something playful and ended up getting snapped at o__o;   Of course, when it gets to the point of disapproval, I start to ask what I did wrong and then search for gifts...or...y'know...tenttime...either works

[e-ver]

Sannox wrote...

Minaleth wrote...

Sabriana wrote...
Agreed, Minaleth. I have the game installed in English (not my mother-tongue), and in the beginning it felt like: "What? What did I say?"

It's even worse when someone asks the PC if they agree (esp Zev is an expert in this). The possible replies are basically yes or no. Unfortunately negation works differently in english and my first language and I always get confused which answer is which.

English is my first (and virtually only) language, but I struggle with some of the options.  Sometimes I'll choose an option and the characters seem to think it means the opposite of what I meant it to mean. 

Good to know this happens even for native speakers (I'm not one either, so I thought this was just being me, not seeing the obvious as usual).

The first time this happened to me was when talking to Morrigan about her being a shapeshifter and she asked my PC, if she thought her an abomination to be put to the torch. I answered that I thought this would just make her angry, because I meant that the Templars would have a hard time trying to burn her as a witch, seeing that she managed to fool them in the past, but she was very annoyed with my PC. Ooops.