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Ramante wrote...

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Aww, Zevran looks so sad when he disapproves. :(

I agree, he looks really sad.

CZ, I think this one is the most beautiful of all.


beautiful because of the incredibly bright colours I used? it was actually going to be even brighter than that but before I saved it I placed a big black "blotch" in the middle :3

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Ramante wrote...

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Aww, Zevran looks so sad when he disapproves. :(

I agree, he looks really sad.

CZ, I think this one is the most beautiful of all.


beautiful because of the incredibly bright colours I used? it was actually going to be even brighter than that but before I saved it I placed a big black "blotch" in the middle :3

I don't know... I think it is the combination of bright colours and a very sad Zevran. Bright colours and sadness shouldn't be combined, but the effect is just great.
I have no other way of saying it... (well I could give you like 5 lines of text in Dutch, but that won't help you) :P

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Apparently you can respec.  I haven't seen anything yet.

I heard it was via a manual you buy for 6 gold from Wade and Herren?

People have played for hours and no Zevran mention at all?!


I am on my third restart.  THIS one should be safe.  Alistair was at -100 hostile AND the beginning didn't bug out on me.

So far, not impressed.  But whether or not Zev gets mentioned, I can't tell you.  I haven't gotten very far. I'm still hoping to see him.  Or at least HEAR about him.

Edit: Unless they were too cheap to even hire the VA for an hour :huh:

Modifié par ejoslin, 16 mars 2010 - 07:59 .


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On the subject of Zevran in Ostagar... I was thinking, maybe from the writer's perspective, an assassin might find the very idea of getting sentimental over a corpse disturbing. He's learned to become very desencetized about death, so I suppose messing with a corps would seem disguesting and a waste of time to him?

Also... Zevran isn't someone who holds royalty in high reguard. You're pretty much ONLY giving Cailan a pyre to honor him because of what he was, not who he was. Because lets face it, he was a ****** who cared more about personal glory than the fate of his people. He kind of had it coming after that statement about wanting a real Blight like the old days for the glory of battle. All my characters so far wanted to kick his teeth in when he said that. So here you are, giving this useless golden boy a pyre when none of his warriors who died under his command received any such treatment. He probably SHOULD be left to Darkspawn like his people were. Since he was their leader, it seems fitting, in a way.

Mind you I've not read the novels, so all I know of Cailan is what an ass he was when my PCs met him. A friendly ass, but an ass none the less.

So... maybe you could figure Zevran was filled in at camp about what happened at Ostigar and sees Cailan as just another arrogant noble who died because he was an arrogant noble, no better than any who have fallen from assassination. In fact worse, because so many died because of his failings.

Granted, I agree the disapproval seems a tad extreme by Zev standards... An inconsistency. But his opinion of the matter might not be so OOC when you think about it.


I did wonder if it was because Cailan was being singled out for special treatment.   But then, it's not really his fault that his is the only body that has been crucified.    I don't see Zevran as particularly anti-royalty.   I don't see him having much of an opinion on Cailan, either.   He's never been out of Antiva before.  (Yes, he does have opinions on lots of other stuff.   But not Cailan specifically).

Cailan, for all his faults, was at least willing to fight alongside his army and try to inspire them.  I couldn't really hate him.  He's probably not the only leader who has been drawn to glory.    Had things been different, the blight may have made him a hero.   It's interesting that Alistair has such hatred of Loghain, but never seems to hate Cailan though (even though he obviously didn't take to him).  

It's difficult to understand Zevran's disapproval withouth knowing what he feels about death rituals.  Is he disapproving of the king himself, or the funeral method?  He doesn't just object to a royal send-off.  He disapproves of leaving the body to the wolves too.  But he does want him left for the darkspawn.   And leaving him isn't as simple as leaving a corpse on a battlefield - the darkspawn have made a display out of his body.    (Which humanises them int that they know who the king is, and what message doing that will send).   Zevran thinking that the darkspawn 'deserve' the body is hard to imagine.   He was trained to dispatch people, not desecrate their bodies.  Unless he is acknowledging that he darkspawn are intelligent.  Maybe I should just stop torturing myself with it :).  But thanks for your thoughts.

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barkingM1

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Ramante wrote...

Sannox wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

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Aww, Zevran looks so sad when he disapproves. :(

I agree, he looks really sad.

CZ, I think this one is the most beautiful of all.


beautiful because of the incredibly bright colours I used? it was actually going to be even brighter than that but before I saved it I placed a big black "blotch" in the middle :3


It's gorgeous -  and the burning color/feel is perfect for a negative emotion. 

Edit:  posted b4 I saw Ramante's - not to seem such a flat contradiction, sorry!   Just think anger, jealousy, hurt  whatever are all painful, so the fiery colors work for me.  Image IPB

Modifié par barkingM1, 16 mars 2010 - 08:07 .


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Cuddlezarro wrote...

who wants to bet in some sick twist of fate when I import my character it thinks Im in a romance with the annoying french girl?


Maker forbid!  

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barkingM1

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Bleh. Lunch over already.

Barkers disapproves -100.

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Does Zevran give a hate speech if you get him down to -100?

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How do you get him down to -100? Is it possible? I tried seeing if I could get the funny breakup story, but I didn't make it - how far does he have to up and how far down for that? I really want to hear it.

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The thread gets quiet as the Awakening players play and the rest of us bite our nails. :)

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I'm a little disappointed with my human female tent scene. The best so far has been the female dwarf, then the male elf, and the human female is the worst. I did try using the better sex scenes mod a while ago, but I didn't like Zevran's face in it.

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Addai67 wrote...

The thread gets quiet as the Awakening players play and the rest of us bite our nails. :)


Yes! And I still keep refreshing this thread every 20 seconds awaiting some information....  Image IPB

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... and now for something completely different.
Hot Zevran drawing, probably nsfw (sry I have incredibly out of place standards for that, everything is safe for me). I really tried to make it dwarf lady, but apparently I suck at drawing dwarfs.
Next plan is something for boys :3 ...or that dwarf hot stuff ... or something with kneepads.
 

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Niiice, Minaleth! Image IPB

You could always draw something for the boys... with kneepads. Image IPB

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Sannox wrote...

How do you get him down to -100? Is it possible? I tried seeing if I could get the funny breakup story, but I didn't make it - how far does he have to up and how far down for that? I really want to hear it.


For the breakup? -26.  It's not hard to do, just be a jerk to him.

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Minaleth wrote...

... and now for something completely different.
Hot Zevran drawing, probably nsfw (sry I have incredibly out of place standards for that, everything is safe for me). I really tried to make it dwarf lady, but apparently I suck at drawing dwarfs.
Next plan is something for boys :3 ...or that dwarf hot stuff ... or something with kneepads.
 


Ohoh, I LOVE that. So beautiful!

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Sannox wrote...

I'm a little disappointed with my human female tent scene. The best so far has been the female dwarf, then the male elf, and the human female is the worst. I did try using the better sex scenes mod a while ago, but I didn't like Zevran's face in it.


I agree that the dwarf female is the best tent scene -- it's the only one where Zev is smiling for sure.  Male and female elf are the same. Human female, yes, it's ok, not great.

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Sannox wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

who wants to bet in some sick twist of fate when I import my character it thinks Im in a romance with the annoying french girl?


Maker forbid!  


Indeed. I'm going to keep my fingers firmly crossed.

Lol, Charsen is tricksy. I'm so tired that I didn't even realize I was reading the 'add VO' instructions from the end to the beginning. That was funny. :lol:

Oh my! Why is Zevran so sad? Why, that's heart-breaking. No wonder he disapproves -100. 

Well, Goodnight my dearies. Have fun playing Awakening, my dear Americans, and do keep an eye out for Zevran. Or an ear. Something. Hopefully.

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ejoslin wrote...
Ohoh, I LOVE that. So beautiful!


Thank you! <3

jenovan wrote...
Niiice, Minaleth! Image IPB
You could always draw something for the boys... with kneepads. Image IPB

And thank you!
Yes, but in that case I will not include any dwarfs. I will think of something :innocent:  

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Eridhan wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

The thread gets quiet as the Awakening players play and the rest of us bite our nails. :)


Yes! And I still keep refreshing this thread every 20 seconds awaiting some information....  Image IPB

It's insult to injury... not only are we stuck at work, but don't even have the usual Zevsquee and sexy screenshots to distract us.  Image IPB

But Minaleth comes through!  You're very talented.

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Have fun playing Awakening, my dear Americans, and do keep an eye out for Zevran. Or an ear. Something. Hopefully.


Oh yes please or I'll have a valid reason to get back to smashing Arthas over and over again :o
*sigh* DA with no Zevran?! What were they thinking?

Modifié par Mesecina, 16 mars 2010 - 08:51 .


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Sannox wrote...

How do you get him down to -100? Is it possible? I tried seeing if I could get the funny breakup story, but I didn't make it - how far does he have to up and how far down for that? I really want to hear it.


My distant memory says that he disapproved -100 ONCE. It was just before the final battle... My PC's already gotten the earring and so on, and went to him thinking "I'm gonna die tomorrow and don't want you to see that, so better go away now". And his response was so heartbreaking that I immediately reloaded... and gave up the ultimate sacrifice :) But I still remember his sad face... just like in the Cuddlezarro's banner!.. Never again! ;)

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Just wanted to say hi! Work's been horrid. I'm sooo behind on forum reading. will check back in once I catch up. I've missed you guys.


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Have fun, all you people with Awakening. I decided to put off buying it for awhile, which means these forums have become a dangerous spoiler-filled nightmare... Well, it seems it's time to take a break from the forums anyway.



Keep enjoying the wonderful world of Zevran, everyone, and for the time being- Au revoir, Mata ne, Tschüs, See ya! I'll miss you guys.

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Aww, see ya hopefully soon, Nonvita :3