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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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Charsen wrote...

heh thanks guys. yeah, miss that darn mutt! ah well.

Cuddlezarro wrote...
Ejoslin how long do you think it would take a certain some one to mod the Squeerific letter back into the game?


*already extracting erf files*


Just make it work with Polish version as well and I will love you forever!! Image IPB
I'm still waiting for my copy to arrive (should get it on Friday), so you do have some time... Image IPB

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Sabriana wrote...
I can't stay long. I'm at a buddy's house, watching him play through awakening. His PC is downstairs now (no spoilers), and I must say, the person's son who the HN detested the most is quite intriguing. Unfortunately, my friend's PC is a dwarf. I mean I've nothing against dwarfs, not at all, but I'd love to see the HN in that cut-scene.

There are some extra dialogue lines, but it's not terribly dramatic.




*Awakening spoiler*



He is there to kill you, or at least that's why he came to Amaranthine.  This is where the *sob* line for Zevran fans come in.  Do you want to be spoilered further?



*last chance to look away*




When you say you're going to conscript him, Howe asks if you would want to have someone in the Wardens who wanted to kill you.  You have an option to respond, "Some of my best friends have wanted to kill me."


Image IPB Image IPB  Image IPB   Zeevvraaaannnn... where aaaare youuuuu?!!!!

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#9578
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jenovan wrote...
I can only wonder why something that seems so simple (a letter??) would be cut, though... sigh.

I know!  It seems kind of ridiculous, right?  It probably wouldn't even take that long, I think, to add it back into the game.  So - what's up, Bioware?

ejoslin wrote...

Gilded Age, thank you very much for the
link. I hope I didn't sound like I doubted it was in the material --
I'm just worried that it won't be in the game anyway. I have to tell
you, there's an quest giving NPC that SPOILER ALERT says she has a
SPOILER (LOL) for the Warden Commander. First couple of times I clicked
on her my heart stopped! I think I have to be at least a third of the
way through the game, maybe more, and still nothing.

Oh, no, no, no!  It's totally fine.  I just didn't want people thinking I made all this up out of whole-cloth.   ;)  Both his and Leliana's letters are in the .tlk tables for Awakenings.  So weird they didn't make it in game. 

ALSO: SORRY GUISE for getting everyone's hopes up.  Maybe this will lead to someone modding it in, though.  :whistle:

It was actually my understanding that stuff in the .tlk files usually ended up in game.  I guess that's not necesarily true, though.  Crazy disappointing.

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Thanks Addai67! I don't remember that line, but at least it's not the one I thought it may have been.



I'm scared I won't even get the Zevran epilogue card! I feel so silly.

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ejoslin wrote...

Thanks Addai67! I don't remember that line, but at least it's not the one I thought it may have been.

I'm scared I won't even get the Zevran epilogue card! I feel so silly.


you know what Im scared off...getting the leliena epilogue card >_<

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jenovan wrote...
Image IPB  Here 'tis, relatively fresh off the press. Image IPB  Thanks!

I read through it and it made me smile, but I'll have to do a more thorough reading later because I'm still stuck at work. 

Makes you want to knock on Zevran's head and say, "Hello????"  My PC too spends a lot of time wondering whether Zevran *really* cares and what he *really* wants.  

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Thanks Addai67! I don't remember that line, but at least it's not the one I thought it may have been.

I'm scared I won't even get the Zevran epilogue card! I feel so silly.


you know what Im scared off...getting the leliena epilogue card >_<


I thought of that one already.  The game I loaded up had Alistair at 100 hostile and Leliana at 100 dead.

Edit: @Guilded Age, thank you again, and and thank you for that file!  Even if it's not in the game, at least it most likely can be added, as you (and Charsen :wub:) say, and it's so sweet!

Modifié par ejoslin, 17 mars 2010 - 09:15 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Thanks Addai67! I don't remember that line, but at least it's not the one I thought it may have been.

I'm scared I won't even get the Zevran epilogue card! I feel so silly.


you know what Im scared off...getting the leliena epilogue card >_<


I thought of that one already.  The game I loaded up had Alistair at 100 hostile and Leliana at 100 dead.


this is Leliena she will most likley Ninja love you from beyond the grave as well

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**Spoilers**





Even with the letter, my PC promised to protect Zev from the Crows every time. I cannot fathom just sending him off into their jaws alone, even as a friend.



**End Spoilers**



It's hardly the worst of the hand waving, but I'm still disappointed. The game isn't bad, but neither is it that good. :(

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I thought of that one already.  The game I loaded up had Alistair at 100 hostile and Leliana at 100 dead.


this is Leliena she will most likley Ninja love you from beyond the grave as well


That would be my luck!

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ejoslin wrote...

@walina FORGET your epilogue card, especially if you went to rebuild the grey wardens with Zevran. Really, all the Epilogue cards were discounted. MY warden was the savior and new ruler of her people, and yet no one bowed to HER!

Grrrrrrr!

I actually thought about this, and at least the Grey Wardens one you can give a tiiiiny bit of a pass for Awakenings -- you haven't *started* rebuilding the Wardens yet when the game starts (... but seriously, what have you been doing instead?  Image IPB), so uh.. maybe your dear assassin will catch up with you just a tiny bit later. Yeah.  Image IPB


Addai67 wrote...
*Awakening spoiler*

Image IPB Image IPB  Image IPB 

Yep, that's the line I thought. Siiiiigh. Image IPB


Creature 1 wrote...

I read through it and it made me smile, but I'll have to do a more thorough reading later because I'm still stuck at work. 

Makes you want to knock on Zevran's head and say, "Hello????"  My PC too spends a lot of time wondering whether Zevran *really* cares and what he *really* wants.

Thanks much!  Image IPB   Ahh, Zevran and his total lack of transparency.  Image IPB

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ejoslin wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I thought of that one already.  The game I loaded up had Alistair at 100 hostile and Leliana at 100 dead.


this is Leliena she will most likley Ninja love you from beyond the grave as well


That would be my luck!


more like my luck since im the one who bashes her whenever I get the chance...

knowing my luck Ill load up dragon age and when ever I click on Zevran the game will think Im speaking to leliena instead of the hot elven assassin :3

also I just downloaded like 8 Photoshop brush sets weeeee~

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@ Addai

Yes, it's taken some heart-blood out of me. Sheesh.

I do agree with CZ. MoTB was an expac, but it was simply great. This one is not bad, but..., I don't know, somehow I feel empty. I make my friend pick dialogues (not in a mean way or anything), but it still doesn't come close.

Here comes my other buddy with coffee. Brb.

*Goes back to hanging over her pal's shoulder*

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

terrible indeed! (now tell me how awful is the epilogue card without spoiling it)


Just saw this CZ.  It's not terrible.  But you know if they make another expansion, epilogue cards will again be damned.

Modifié par ejoslin, 17 mars 2010 - 09:26 .


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I do agree with CZ. MoTB was an expac, but it was simply great.


I think it helps with MoTB that the original game really was not that great (id rate is painfully mediocre) and it came as a surprise as just how much better MoTB was though during the skein part of the game that witches comments made me want to gouge her throat out but once I got past that part of the dungeon the cutscenes that followed once I got to said annoying witch was just wow...

plus the variety of ways you can get past the que is just wow (such as buying the boy from the ogres in the previous room and letting the monkey people in the next room eat him)

also the NPC's where great (one of the few games where I like all the NPC's and no they arnt all goodie goodie suck ups either)

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 17 mars 2010 - 09:35 .


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I can only wonder why something that seems so simple (a letter??) would be cut, though... sigh.


Oh, crap, I though it was in the game.

I hope someone will make a mod and enable this because it would fit the the story, at least it will explain why Zevran or Leliana can't be with you!

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also I know why the Dog isnt with your PC in awakening's you sent him off with Zevran to help protect the elf since you cant be with him! or thats how I wish it any ways

#9593
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We don't know for sure that it's NOT in the game. I'm guessing not because Leliana fans are saying they got nothing but an epilogue card though the tlk file has a SPOILER from her as well. But no one can say it's NOT in there until they make it through the game.



I'm still hoping it's in there.

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awakening won't install:sick: but it doesn't trouble me too much. strange, normally i'd go totally berserk.... *shrug*

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

also I know why the Dog isnt with your PC in awakening's you sent him off with Zevran to help protect the elf since you cant be with him! or thats how I wish it any ways


that's a sweet thought :wub:
...Zevran would definitely have enough of my Warden's scent on him to fool the dog into following him *waggle*

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Charsen wrote...

 *waggle*

god. the pictures!:whistle:

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Haerja wrote...

Charsen wrote...
 *waggle*

god. the pictures!:whistle:


well it was supposed to be an eyebrow waggle ...but i like where you're going with this.... carry on
:D

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ejoslin wrote...

The funny thing is, Awakenings has the potential of weaning me away from DA:O. In DA:O I genuinely feel sucked into another world. In Awakenings, I'm distinctly aware I'm playing a game. I can tell by my dialog choices that the characters with me are supposed to be my friends, but I certainly don't feel it. Which actually may be a better perspective to have.

As far as DA:O goes, there's only so many times you can do the deeproads and such before the tedium outweighs the absolute delight of the relationships you build with your companions. I was hoping DA:A would build on that. For me, it's not. I am glad other people are liking it. In a way, I'm disappointed, though, because if enough people are content with shallower relationships with the companions and such, it's something we may not see again.

So enough rant from me. I'm genuinely soured on the whole DA universe at this point. But loading up DA:O and talking to everyone there DOES help a little!


I don't see less immersion as a good thing...  I just really really hope awakenings was tio test out some different systems instead of an atempt to implament the new system.  DA:O is a bit obsession inspiring, but any work of art that tells a story should be if it's done well.  I just hope the developers don't loose sight of that.

I'm kind of happy I've really taken my sweet time with the game.  I'm not looking forward to the point at which I run out of new things to experience.  But there's always the fan creations untill a REAL expansion comes out, or a sequel.  *crosses fingers that it will live up to expectations*

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Here's an update: I found the plot script for the letter with the toolset. The name of the file is: plt_cod_bks_zevran_letter.plo. It references the correct talkstrings that correspond to Zev's letter in the .tlk table.



I also found one for Leliana, though, so I'm not sure what that means. I guess, if anyone sees it/gets it, let us all know!

#9600
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still trying to figure out who exactly *cough* waggles:?