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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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#9901
Raiynsong

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yes ES i was a bit encouraged by Gaider's last responses except for the "you don't have to be worried about expensive but I do" but at least he is reading and responding and I think the whole tenor of the thread has been rational and positive about what we like about each of the two systems. Hopefully a hybrid will be in the works for later... unless, as has been reported here, all the resources are going into KOTOR. After seeing so many other games fail to reach their potential, I am worried about this, BUT.... for now I remain cautiously hopeful. And in the meantime will enjoy both Origins and Awakenings for what they each offer.


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ok one thing I hate about this game... taking screenshots with enemy archers attacking you is a PAIN

seriously I had this wonderful shot ready to be taken....when i noticed Sten had an arrow lodged in his throat >_<

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Cuddlezarro wrote...
seriously I had this wonderful shot ready to be taken....when i noticed Sten had an arrow lodged in his throat >_<

Auch..

Zevran delighted? That gives me a new reason to take that dialogue option. *grin*
Hmm... the Zevran-human kiss is better than the elven kiss, but the elven romance scene is better than the human scene.. o.o'

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Ramante wrote...


Hmm... the Zevran-human kiss is better than the elven kiss, but the elven romance scene is better than the human scene.. o.o'


and then there is the dwarf kiss (which I have been SAVING and so have not yet seen).  MORE REASONS FOR MULTIPLE PLAYTHROUGHS :)

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And dwarf beats them in both -- if the kiss is in the right place (or your femdwarf has long hair). But the before tent kiss? Worth waiting for!

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Yeah... Zevran is a good reason to start a dwarf playthrough. First I have to finish my 2 mage and 1 rogue playthrough, can't start another one before at least one of those is finished. (knows that she will start a new playthrough without finishing another one first)



But I can go to sleep knowing that Zevran was delighted about my mage's response. :P

Goodnight~

#9907
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lol I ninja'd EJ except that she provided the picture, so I guess she outninja'd my ninja :)

#9908
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Look at it this way... Expenses had to have been an even bigger issue when working on the first game in a new series, since everything is a gamble, and you can't fall back on a core fan following and familiarity. And yet Origins was great, especially in the dialogue department. I think Mr. Gaider is just being realistic and reminding us that there is a limit to what can be done, and he has to find ways to do things efficiently so that they can make the most of what they have. I don't think that's discouraging, when you put it in perspective.

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Ramante wrote...

Yeah... Zevran is a good reason to start a dwarf playthrough.

<--she is on ice but she WILL be finished!  I promise you, Lady Aeducan!!  You are going to get the Antivan love machine!

But I can go to sleep knowing that Zevran was delighted about my mage's response. :P
Goodnight~

My elven mage did not delight Zevran with her after-tent response, but she really wanted to know if he could love her.  They both had frowny faces after that post-tent talk, but it's just because both of them don't know yet that the life-changing night really was life-changing.  (she slept with him the first time after Taliesin, the night Zevran told her he would stay with her to defeat the Blight)

Modifié par Addai67, 18 mars 2010 - 10:04 .


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weee screenshots~

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Is there anything Awakening spoilering in EccentricSage's Gaider  post? *Shakes Fist at ES as he hate's needing to ask*

I want Awakening...

@CZ - I normally use Hands of Guile, if you have a Rapid Aim Bow is doesn't stack with Repeater Gloves. (max fire speed I belive is 0.3 Rapid Aim+Rapid Shot...I cant check because Detailed Tooltip's mod has stopped working...wtf....) 

*Edited because I'm an idiot...Red Jenney Seeker's...:unsure:*
*Edited again because making sense is a good thing*

Modifié par MorGothic, 18 mars 2010 - 10:48 .


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JosieJ wrote...

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I actually think I did see Gwaren at one of the Amaranthine shopkeepers.  Alas, I won't be able to check this until later.


Once again, I'm left in the dust by the speed of this thread, but I wanted to check back to say that I checked in-game and I was wrong: no Gwaren heraldry available in Amaranthine.  Dragon's Peak Bannorn, yes, Gwaren, no.

And good gloves for an archer?  Try Red Jenny Seekers or Gloves of Guile.  Katriel's Grasp (and Pushback Strikers, which are better) are for melee.

Edit: hmm, ninja'd by an edit!

Modifié par JosieJ, 18 mars 2010 - 10:49 .


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MorGothic wrote...

Is there anything Awakening spoilering in EccentricSage's Gaider  post? *Shakes Fist at ES as he hate's needing to ask*

It's pulled off the non-spoiler forum, you're safe.

Modifié par Addai67, 18 mars 2010 - 10:53 .


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Addai67 wrote...

Ramante wrote...

Yeah... Zevran is a good reason to start a dwarf playthrough.

<--she is on ice but she WILL be finished!  I promise you, Lady Aeducan!!  You are going to get the Antivan love machine!

But I can go to sleep knowing that Zevran was delighted about my mage's response. :P
Goodnight~

My elven mage did not delight Zevran with her after-tent response, but she really wanted to know if he could love her.  They both had frowny faces after that post-tent talk, but it's just because both of them don't know yet that the life-changing night really was life-changing.  (she slept with him the first time after Taliesin, the night Zevran told her he would stay with her to defeat the Blight)


You COULD have delighted him. That line comes before asking him about love!  He still leaves the conversation quite happy!

Edit: Actually, the VO comment is (pleased)

Modifié par ejoslin, 18 mars 2010 - 11:00 .


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ejoslin wrote...

I just finished awakenings. I got the Zevran epilogue (yay me). *sigh*


Please tell me this is based on some embedded save data and not the presence of the bloody earring in your inventory.  I think my mage warden developed a twitch when those (something more or less analogous to Shale's greatest foe) showed up, and some recognition that Zevran (or anyone, for that matter) exists would be nice.

Modifié par Tellervo, 18 mars 2010 - 11:32 .


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Tellervo wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I just finished awakenings. I got the Zevran epilogue (yay me). *sigh*


Please tell me this is based on some embedded save data and not the presence of the bloody earring in your inventory.  I think my mage warden developed a twitch when those SPOILER showed up, and some recognition that Zevran (or anyone, for that matter) exists would be nice.


It's not based on the earring.  I go for the engagement over the earring!  Ok, and that part bugged the hell out of me for many reasons. It's what I want to rant about, but please edit that out of your post (the part I changed).  A lot of people here have NOT finished or even started Awakenings.

Edit: This thread, we're trying to keep spoiler free is all.  Even though this is a spoiler section, this thread is, well, unofficially different!

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ejoslin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
My elven mage did not delight Zevran with her after-tent response, but she really wanted to know if he could love her.  They both had frowny faces after that post-tent talk, but it's just because both of them don't know yet that the life-changing night really was life-changing.  (she slept with him the first time after Taliesin, the night Zevran told her he would stay with her to defeat the Blight)


You COULD have delighted him. That line comes before asking him about love!  He still leaves the conversation quite happy!

Edit: Actually, the VO comment is (pleased)

Hm, ah now I remember... she replied "We should talk" instead of "I thought I seduced you" or "you're practically a public menace".  Probably why she got a -2 overall.  I think he will still give a small bump if you ask about love after one of the other lines?

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@ejoslin, you can PM me your rant if you need to get it off your chest. :D I haven't finished Awakening, but I don't care about spoilers.

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Addai67 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
My elven mage did not delight Zevran with her after-tent response, but she really wanted to know if he could love her.  They both had frowny faces after that post-tent talk, but it's just because both of them don't know yet that the life-changing night really was life-changing.  (she slept with him the first time after Taliesin, the night Zevran told her he would stay with her to defeat the Blight)


You COULD have delighted him. That line comes before asking him about love!  He still leaves the conversation quite happy!

Edit: Actually, the VO comment is (pleased)

Hm, ah now I remember... she replied "We should talk" instead of "I thought I seduced you" or "you're practically a public menace".  Probably why she got a -2 overall.  I think he will still give a small bump if you ask about love after one of the other lines?


Some things in the toolkit have static numbers of disapproval, some they're variable. This one is variable -- but it says, when you ask him about love (Dec_med).  So it's a medium disapproval.  What that means depends on where his approval level is to begin with I think.  I've noticed this with his dialogs, approval also seems based on his approval level.

#9920
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YAY! Rant sent! Thanks so much Addai67!

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ejoslin wrote...

YAY! Rant sent! Thanks so much Addai67!


I'm quite curious about what your opinion on that part of Awakening as well (since I was also bugged by it)... but I didn't want to bring it up for obvious spoiler reasons...

#9922
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Hmmmm, should I just start a topic about it? I think I will. OK< warning. I'm going to make a spoilerific topic, so don't read what I start!

#9923
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ok so I downloaded a new difficulty mod since the current one was getting to easy... and I keep dying yay! it also helps I have a severe lack of CC spells (beyond the Walking bomb+taunt tactic)

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Eeee, that's a gorgeous shot, CZ! <3

What blade does Zevran have in his left hand, there?