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[ejoslin]

Sannox wrote...

Thanks!  I couldn't remember for sure if he actually lost approval.   It threw me particularly because it WAS early on (although I can't remember exactly when), and there clearly was no jealousy and no 'relationship'.

Then when I played through, it turned out that he wasn't jealous at any other point.  My mage even kept sleeping with Morrigan right up until the end (well, he was going to have to do the dark ritual anyway, so ....) and Zevran still wasn't jealous (he had the 'doing the grey warden' conversation with Morrigan).  I have wondered if he was jealous and didn't know it, but I don't think so.   There's no sign of it.   It's one of his appealing characteristics.  (And my character would not have been sleeping with Morrigan or anybody if he thought it would bother Zevran at all).  That' (along with him not having the option to kiss in public)  was why I thought it must be an issue of decorum rather than jealousy.  If he's happy with sex and kissing between you and another companion in private, then it must be the publicness of the kiss that he objects to rather than the kissing itself.   Or so I thought. 

It does seem at odds with the character.   Maybe it was just for balance, if Leliana does it too.    I'm going to have to play it again and see if I can find an interpretaion that fits with my view of him.

Sometimes the relationships bug.  I do know that he laughs and says, "I've seen it before a few times.  I promise, I won't gawk," if he's in the friendzone with Alistair being romanced.  But if you kiss Alistair in public once the romance is turned on, even if it's LOW (Zevran's approval, that is romanced at ALL), he's all, "Don't mind me" with an angry face and -3 approval.

As far as having sex with Morrigan, I think that ends once she falls in love, BUT as long  Zevran is at 70 Care or below, there's no jealousy in camp at ALL.  It's only the kissing in public that will prompt it if the romance is turned on.  If he goes to 71+ Adore, then he'll force you to choose.  But as long as he's under that threshold, camp is fine, kissing in front of him out in public is NOT.  If the romance isn't turned on, he has no issue at all.

Does that make sense?  I had trouble understanding how they worked at first until I got how they tie into approval.  Then I was like, wow, that's ALL it is?

Modifié par ejoslin, 19 mars 2010 - 06:46 .

[Cuddlezarro]

Oh and as for Alister he's no longer a GW, sure he will have to take The Calling in 30 odd years, but he will never advance in the Wardens, will never be told any of their secrets beyond those he knows already. His "Career" in the GW ended the moment he chose to be King.

you do know there ARE endings in Origins with KING Alistair being ordered to Weishuppt(sp?) fortress right

Alistair(and your PC even though your prince consort but Anora admits thats a technicality so your pretty much king) dont just stop being a grey warden when they plonk themselves they sit on a throne

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 19 mars 2010 - 06:47 .

[Rhinna]

MorGothic wrote...

Right, Ive been playing DA:A for a bit and although I am not far at all (just recuited a certain rogue) and I don't know it hasn't grabbed me like Orgin's does. I'm not sure I like the new convosation method at all it feels very impersonal, click object *cutsecene*, where as I use think "You know I fancy talking to X".

Not sure I like the Arling idea thus far, Gray Warden's are ment to fight darkspawn not rule (the Anderfels are a different matter, where the people look for the GW to rule). A GWC concern should be the Darkspawn not running an Arling IMHO. The idea in a way seems pretty stupid, after all the GW have rebelled once before and where only defeated due to numbers (and then only just, according to The Calling) would you risk it (if it was an imported Warden then I could see it I suppose...)?

Oh and I felt "The Prisoner's" recuitment was just plain badly done...

Will report back later...

I'm not that far into Awakenings yet, and one of the things that bothers me the most (other than a number of moments I could have used that seksei assassin!) is that I have to build favor up with Oghren ALL over again!  Is that a dorf thing or what? 

I had him at 100 approval in DAO - I don't think I should have to work hard at getting him back up there after what? a couple of years at the most??

However, the moments by the cask are hilarious!  and if my dalish PC hadn't wound up with Zevran she'd definitely be interested in seeing Ander's magical staff....

[jenovan]

Allo all!  Popping in before I attend to the gardening.  I could use some kneepads, but I don't have any, unfortunately.
(How literal am I being? YOU DECIDE!)

Cuddlezarro wrote...

off topic question!: is it me or is it really really fun pissing off Alistair?, barens been insulting the living crap out of him and Alistair's recations are either really hot or funny or both

Hell yes.  My mage had fun insulting him in the Fade -- and no loss of approval!
PC: I'm here to save you, you idiot!
Alistair: *looks offended*  ... I don't know how to take that, so I'm going to ignore it.

Addai67 wrote...

Here's a Zevran question. I'm thinking about his facial expression in the final part of the tent scene. I've seen it with an elf female and dwarf female (the dwarf gets a little smile). It's kind of a wide-eyed look. I compare it to the final bit in Alistair's tent scene, where he's watching the Warden sleeping. Alistair's expression is goofy-happy, but with Zevran it looks to me like it's somewhere between being amazed and being frightened. It's like he realizes, gazing at her, that he's caught. What say you?

I'm not familiar with any of these scenes, but I love your interpretation, just as a character element.

And.. well, I read THE epilogue card. :/

Charsen wrote...

i wouldn't even know what to do with the epilogue card! because i am ... assuming it will link to the next expac. =/

On the one hand, this would be awesome... but on the other hand, I worry what it is they're going to do to Zevran to make that happen.

*spoilers!*


My only way of reconciling this turn of events, with Alessar (CEM) at least, is, Zevran ran off without telling him, leading to that letter, and after Awakenings, Alessar goes to find him.  (Maker, but that would be a fun rant to write, as he leaves Amaranthine and the Commandership to someone who gives a ****. XD)   Taking up leadership of that organization, though? WTF??  Still, it's a "rumor", so.... yeah.  I'm thinking that IF that is some kind of DLC/expack, you will make that decision for yourself there.  I hope. Maybe. Augh.

Modifié par jenovan, 19 mars 2010 - 06:54 .

[ejoslin]

Addai67 wrote...

Here's a Zevran question. I'm thinking about his facial expression in the final part of the tent scene. I've seen it with an elf female and dwarf female (the dwarf gets a little smile). It's kind of a wide-eyed look. I compare it to the final bit in Alistair's tent scene, where he's watching the Warden sleeping. Alistair's expression is goofy-happy, but with Zevran it looks to me like it's somewhere between being amazed and being frightened. It's like he realizes, gazing at her, that he's caught. What say you?

I'm probably reading too much into it, but I figure this crowd doesn't mind such offenses.

Addai67, he has different expressions in those.  With the elf, I think you have it spot on. With the dwarf, he starts smiling, as if he can't believe how lucky he is.  And then they start going again!   The one part they leave out of the dwarf scene is after he starts smiling, him pulling her on top of him.  Because that's where she is a few seconds later.

[Addai]

ejoslin wrote...
Addai67, he has different expressions in those.  With the elf, I think you have it spot on. With the dwarf, he starts smiling, as if he can't believe how lucky he is.  And then they start going again!   

LOL Okay, I have only seen the dwarf scene once so I forgot it wasn't the end part.

It really is good being a dwarf.  Unless you interpret it that he is falling in love with the elf more quickly, and the frightened look is evidence of that.

[Cuddlezarro]

ok to be completely off topic who wants some Sten Squee pics?

[ejoslin]

Addai67 wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
Addai67, he has different expressions in those.  With the elf, I think you have it spot on. With the dwarf, he starts smiling, as if he can't believe how lucky he is.  And then they start going again!   

LOL Okay, I have only seen the dwarf scene once so I forgot it wasn't the end part.

It really is good being a dwarf.  Unless you interpret it that he is falling in love with the elf more quickly, and the frightened look is evidence of that.

*grin* I interpret them both as him falling in love, just that he has a different reaction.  The smile on his face all the way through with the dwarf is what gives him away.  It's the only tent scene where he's smiling.  Her face is all passionate and adoring, and he is just enjoying the hell out of it.

Both are very beautiful.  It's why I don't like the human scene as much.  While she's smiling all the way through it, he's looking more passionate -- but also, the focus is more on her face than on his. 

[Addai]

@Sannox:  It may just be my theory, but Zevran is particularly jealous of Alistair (and vice versa).  You can see in their banter conversations that they're jealous of each other.  So that's the reason, IMO, for the mutual sulk if you try to kiss Alistair with Zevran in the party, if Zevran's romance has been turned on.

HNF had turned on Zevran's romance (by telling him "I'm already quite fond of you"... *sigh*... so true but indiscreet), and I forgot about this until she tried to kiss Alistair after leaving him behind for the Deep Roads.  Oops!  Frowny faces all around and no kiss.

Modifié par Addai67, 19 mars 2010 - 06:59 .

[Charsen]

i didn't know there was a such thing as Sten squee.

[Addai]

Charsen wrote...

i didn't know there was a such thing as Sten squee.

Oh there is!  That "kadan" is so sexy.

[Cuddlezarro]

Charsen wrote...

i didn't know there was a such thing as Sten squee.

quite a few people in this topic actually like Sten beleive it or not

though you really have to take him with you to get all his awesome dialogue

[Sabriana]

Charsen wrote...

i didn't know there was a such thing as Sten squee.

Me neither. I know my PCs (and I) like him, but as for squee? Enlighten us CZ.

Edited because explanation was given before question was posted. Same old, same old, around here. Yeah, I do like him, but just as a friend, personally. Although I still giggle when the particular Morrigan/Sten conversation pops up.

*I did so not run over the Orzammar Proving bridge countless times to get that *

Modifié par Sabriana, 19 mars 2010 - 07:06 .

[Cuddlezarro]

Addai67 wrote...

Charsen wrote...

i didn't know there was a such thing as Sten squee.

Oh there is!  That "kadan" is so sexy.

his voice actor is also sexy as well and looks nothing like how I imagined him

[Charsen]

oh, well i never took him with me since i used alistair and shale as my tanks. i'm intrigued by this jaundiced giant squee though.

[Cuddlezarro]

I take it none of you people have gotten Sten and Carrol at Calenhad docks exchange? that conversation is pretty damn funny

edit: BTW Sten squee is not the same type of Squee as Zevran is

...except as Addai says when he says Kadan it is pretty sexy

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 19 mars 2010 - 07:08 .

[Sannox]

I would have romanced Sten, if I could.

[Sabriana]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Charsen wrote...

i didn't know there was a such thing as Sten squee.

Oh there is!  That "kadan" is so sexy.

his voice actor is also sexy as well and looks nothing like how I imagined him

Yes. His VA is all kinds of delicious looking.

[Eislyn]

Sannox wrote...

I would have romanced Sten, if I could.

So would I.  Hot pokers and all.  :innocent:

[Cuddlezarro]

to those wonder what Stens voice actor looks like



http://www.imdb.com/...73344/nm0383926





also Sten is sexy when frustrated by the way~







Baren: you want me to feed you!?



(why does Zevran look sad i this screenshot BTW?)













Baren: where the hell did you get those?







Baren: ...you stole cookies from a child!?

[Sresla]

Just FYI (god, maybe I'm repeating myself), you aren't guaranteed the Zevran epilogue card in Awakenings - I didn't get it in mine and he's the only one I've ever romanced (I'm not like some of you cheaters, doing it for the Achievement, indeed...) I went back and looked at the save I imported (it was an old, old one) and saw that I had accepted the earring first go. But I couldn't remember what boon I requested on my warrior, so I deleted ALL my old saves back to the Taliesin fight and will play it through to the "proposal" instead (sorry Charsen, it's for the testing!) and import THAT and see if it makes a difference. I'm killing Velanna this time, she's a harpy.

I'd be interested to hear, though, that horrible epilogue card aside (because I'm pretty sure we think it's unbelievable that he'd do it unless he's going behind your back and then I'm with Jenovan, my characters would turn to the nearest guy/gal and say, "Congrats, you're the new Warden Commander, go sip some darkspawn blood, I'm off to Antiva.") what people want their excluded letter from Zevran to say. C'mon, rise to the challenge - I expect some squee-worthy letters out of you all.

Modifié par Sresla, 19 mars 2010 - 07:17 .

[Eislyn]

My Sten has had a small makeover. I couldn't stand the puffy cheeks ala Marlon Brando in the Godfather. Even Zevran says the Kunari aren't hard on the eyes.

[Sabriana]

Yeah, my mage got this yesterday. Although she was (much) less delighted about tongue cutting outing and leashing (in the real sense).

[ejoslin]

I've never (at least not until Charsen's mod) had that earring in my inventory. Sresla, is it possible that you turned off the romance at the very end? It's possible to do it at the gates AND at the ceremony. Stupid too

[Addai]

Charsen wrote...

oh, well i never took him with me since i used alistair and shale as my tanks. i'm intrigued by this jaundiced giant squee though.

Well Sten grew on me over numerous playthroughs, but I wasn't full-on crushing on him until I got his hidden dialogues.  That was on my last character!  So it took quite a while, even though I don't think Sula used him in the party much more than previous characters had.  But he liked her best.  A blood mage.  Go figure.