Sannox wrote...
Does Zevran betray Taliesin? Kind of, I think, even though he doesn't have much choice.
From Taliesin's point of view - he knew why Zevran took the contract. When Zevran survives, his life is forfeit - except that Zevran apparently allies with the grey wardens. (Zevran himself explains that alone he will be dead, but nobody wants to take on a grey warden, unless they're suicidal).
Taliesin must know that. We don't know what he feels about the Crows. Zevran does give an inkling about his loyalty to the Crows when he spits in Rinna's face for betraying them (although I think it's the personal betrayal which hurts the most). Zevran's opinion changes after that incident, but Taliesin is still coming at it from the angle of not knowing any other life, maybe being proud of the status, etc. He may not see bringing Zevran back as bringing him back to slavery.
And at that point Zevran doesn't have freedom, anyway. As far as Taliesin knows, he has to serve the Grey Warden for his own safety. He has no other options. (For someone who likes the finer things in life, the idea of living on a campsite in a cold, wet, dreary country might be unappealing). So I don't think Taliesin is trying to bring him back to anything worse. I imagine he thinks Zevran only doesn't come back because he would be killed.
Taliesin volunteers for the contract at great personal risk (he may have to confront a grey warden). It may be that he does so, because he knows that anybody else will kill Zevran and he wants to bring him back. It may be that nobody else volunteers (quite likely). Either way, he will put his life on the line to find Zevran, to bring him back or to avenge his death. Thinking about it, I believe he was likely in love with Zevran. He comes to the encounter to save him. And this is somebody who I presume had the same 'training' as Zevran, and who tries to be 'cold'.
Nobody needed to die, if Zevran had gone with Taliesin and the warden let him. It's his choice that leads to Taliesin's death. His reasons are sound, but Taliesin ends up the victim - I think it is a kind of betrayal, given what Taliesin risked to have him back.
Zevran actually talks about being a slave more than once, and he sounds pretty bitter. He did take great pride in being a Crow and the life it gave him, but elves in general have a really horrible lot in life -- being a slave to the crows is better than anything else that he had been offered. The moment he's offered the chance to do something else, anything else, he takes it.
Why he spit on Rinna? It's interesting, I never really thought too much beyond what he said. This has been something that has been tormenting him for whatever time and he's just getting it off his chest. I think it was for betraying the crows. He made a choice right there, and chose them. Then learned they didn't care at ALL. And had it happened to him, they wouldn't care either.
Now, with Taliesen, it also depends on whether you think that he and Zevran were equals, or if Taliesen was Zevran's superior. I go back and forth on this -- I'm really not sure. Some things Ignacio says really does make it sound like Taliesen was over Zevran, but some things Zevran says makes it sound like they were equals. I get the feeling that Taliesen was at the very least Zevran's mentor, and Taliesen being a human and Zevran being an elf would make for an imbalance there no matter what. It could just be that when Zevran failed, Taliesen volunteered to pick up the contract. I'm not sure.
Taliesen had offered to help Zevran the first time around, so he probably didn't see it as a suicide bid, though I find it interesting that he did a face-to-face confrontation rather than an ambush. Silly plot devices!
Modifié par ejoslin, 21 mars 2010 - 07:03 .