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[Nonvita]

Yay, I can't wait to see it, CZ! Anything to erase the disgusting feeling I get from seeing my character's face in that scene. I still close my eyes through most of it, and I used to reload old saves just to watch Zevran's again to make myself feel better... =(
Plus poor Alistair, it looks likes Zevran's jabs about his stamina really are true- only about 1/5 of his scene is actually doing anything.

Makes me want to sing some Flight of the Concords:
"Making love for two... Making love for twooo minutes."

Edit: Nooooo, get me off the top! Although in a slight change from the norm, it's not ejoslin dwarf/Zevran sex talk...

Modifié par Nonvita, 21 mars 2010 - 09:08 .

[Cuddlezarro]

I find it hilarious just how short Alistairs scene is



which is rather amusing since Grey Wardens are suppossed to have amazing stamina in bed (Morrigan says so when you sleep with her that it seems the tales where true, and the mage that shags duncan in the calling also comments on it)

[sami jo]

Good to know I wasn't the only one who thought the Allistair tent scene was ridiculously short as compared to ALL of the others. It makes Morrigan's stamina comments pretty amusing.



I finally have the PC version and I cannot play because my hubby is still tracking down the virus from hell.

[Ramante]

Nonvita wrote...
Makes me want to sing some Flight of the Concords:
"Having sex for two... Having sex for twooo minutes."

Edit: Nooooo, get me off the top! Although in a slight change from the norm, it's not ejoslin dwarf/Zevran sex talk...

lol, and no, this was perfect top page material.

Still haven't finished Awakening, I like it so far, though now is the most terrible part (I feel it). I wish I had read the Calling, for some reason I think the game would make more sense to me if I had read that.

One thing from ~20 pages back, I don't hate you jenovan... I said that because you brought the gardening stuff up again...

For some reason I think the post below mine is going to say something about gardening...

[Minaleth]

lol, Zevran does address Alistairs performance in the banter, so it must be true

It almost looks like the devs are also making fun of the short tent scene.

[Cuddlezarro]

ok I have a question do they EVER explain in awakening why the Architect looks nothing like the book version? they got the voice spot on but the architect in the book didnt look like lady gaga



and no I dont want spoilers just a simple yes/no

[Ramante]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ok I have a question do they EVER explain in awakening why the Architect looks nothing like the book version? they got the voice spot on but the architect in the book didnt look like lady gaga

and no I dont want spoilers just a simple yes/no

I'm almost done and the only thing I have so far is what he said in the trailer and 'ssh... sleep.'.
That's about it. o.o'

[challenger18]

Where is there a picture in the of the architect from the book? Or are you talking about his description?

[Minaleth]

no they do no explain anything about his appearance. but I haven't read all codex entries, so I might miss something.

[Cuddlezarro]

challenger18 wrote...

Where is there a picture in the of the architect from the book? Or are you talking about his description?

there was a description

and he looked nothing like Lady gaga... he also had one of his hands cut off towards the end

[jenovan]

Ramante wrote...

One thing from ~20 pages back, I don't hate you jenovan... I said that because you brought the gardening stuff up again...

For some reason I think the post below mine is going to say something about gardening...

Ha!  Sorry for that, then.   No gardening talk today, though! .. yet! 

General lulz at Alistair's expense.  That frowny face during the tent scene is impressive.

[Cuddlezarro]

to those who want to know what the Architect in the calling is described as

moments of rubbing for Bregan’s vision to
finally begin to clear. What he saw in the light of the creature’s
glowstone did nothing to assuage his confusion. It was an emissary,
a darkspawn who might have been mistaken for a human were it
not for its corrupted flesh and wide, fishlike eyes. It had no hair,
and its lips were peeled back from its sharp fangs to reveal a permanent,
hideous grin. Instead of the usual assortment of decayed
leathers and pieces of armor that the darkspawn wore, however,
this one had a simple, soot- covered brown robe. It carried a gnarled
black staff in one hand and the glowstone in the other

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 21 mars 2010 - 09:26 .

[challenger18]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

challenger18 wrote...

Where is there a picture in the of the architect from the book? Or are you talking about his description?

there was a description

and he looked nothing like Lady gaga... he also had one of his hands cut off towards the end

I honestly can't remember anything about his description, other than I pictured him as being tall and skinny, which is what he looked like in Awakening.

[Ramante]

jenovan wrote...

Ramante wrote...

One thing from ~20 pages back, I don't hate you jenovan... I said that because you brought the gardening stuff up again...

For some reason I think the post below mine is going to say something about gardening...

Ha!  Sorry for that, then.   No gardening talk today, though! .. yet! 

Just wait like an hour, then I'm sleeping.
Actually you started it like 100 pages back, with your kneepads screenie. I was just stupid enough to ask.

Tomorrow I'm going to play DA:O again, I miss Zevran. I'm not sure if I will continue my elven mage (landsmeet) or my human mage (Orzammar); decisions, decisions...

[Nonvita]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

to those who want to know what the Architect in the calling is described as

It was an emissary, a darkspawn who might have been mistaken for a human were it not for its corrupted flesh and wide, fishlike eyes. It had no hair, and its lips were peeled back from its sharp fangs to reveal a permanent, hideous grin. Instead of the usual assortment of decayed leathers and pieces of armor that the darkspawn wore, however, this one had a simple, soot- covered brown robe. It carried a gnarled black staff in one hand and the glowstone in the other

Psh, that sounds exactly like


Wait, what, no it doesn't!

[Tellervo]

The mantle gets me. I can't stand the silliness.



However, he still creeped me the hell out on first meeting.

[Sannox]

Creature 1 wrote...

Sannox wrote...
ETA: Taliesin is happy to lie to the Crows to have Zevran back.  He also says that he doesn't blame him for the 'betrayal'.   I think that shows where his feelings lie - Zevran first, and Crows second.

If this were true he would have bailed after the combat started. 

I think the Crow masters are not the Crows in Taliesin's mind, the Crows are the Crow masters plus the assassins plus Taliesin's whole self-identity.  Inside the Crows there's a kind of "us vs. them" thing between the masters and the assassins.  The masters consider the assassins disposable, and the assassins lie to the masters when they think they can get away with it to stay out of trouble. 

When Taliesin meets Zevran he doesn't know what's going on, thinks Zevran left in a fit of temporary insanity, and probably thinks the only thing keeping Zevran from coming back is fear that he'll be killed.  The real betrayal doesn't occur until Zevran tells him outright that he's not coming back.  I imagine the result was like Zevran's encounter with the Crow master who told him that Rinna's death was inconsequential and shattered his self-worth.  Zevran just told Taliesin all of their history and experiences they shared were worthless.  That's when Zevran switched from "us" to "them" in Taliesin's mind.  Why it was a betrayal of the Crows and not just a personal betrayal is because Taliesin did have the option to leave the Crows himself, but he appears to have never considered it, so he really chose the Crows over Zevran.  Taliesin was all Crow. 

If he'd had some time to think about it, would he have done the same thing?  I don't know. 

YMMV!

Yes, I think Taliesin is probably pretty close to what Zevran was before you meet him.  I agree that it doesn't seem to occur to him to leave the Crows.  (And he believes that Zevran would come back, if he could).  In fact, Taliesin may be a little further on than Zevran was before Rinna (or maybe the circumstances of Rinna's death affected him too) - while Zevran killed without question, Taliesin does question - and tries to find a way to let Zevran live and bring him back, even if it's a suicide mission.
I don't know if this is the case, but I wondered if Taliesin's life would also be forfeit if he failed his mission.   When Zevran refuses to go back, then neither can Taliesin, unless he kills Zevran.  
I think for both of them, things are more personal than they would maybe admit.  If they both thought Rinna had betrayed the Crows, then they both had as much or as little reason to spit in her face - but Taliesin didn't and Zevran did (I imagine, because he loved her, and so the betrayal was personal.).   When Zevran won't come back with Taliesin, I imagine it must feel personal for Taliesin too, after he'd risked his life to save him.

[Cuddlezarro]

Psh, that sounds exactly like


Wait, what, no it doesn't! ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/andy.png

they did get the voice spot on for him despite the lady gaga looks and somehow regrowning a new hand

edited in because some one got a post in before me

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 21 mars 2010 - 10:00 .

[Sannox]

Gratuitious Zevran screenie:


I think he's either -
- dancing to 'Hot Stuff'
- going for a kiss, but has forgotten to wait for a dwarf
- saying 'It's this big'.
-eating an imaginary baguette, sideways
- (just deleted a rude one - you can probably guess where my train of thought was leading me)

Modifié par Sannox, 21 mars 2010 - 10:05 .

[jenovan]

Sannox wrote...

Gratuitious Zevran screenie:


I think he's either -
- dancing to 'Hot Stuff'
- going for a kiss, but has forgotten to wait for a dwarf
- saying 'It's this big'.
-eating an imaginary baguette, sideways
- (just deleted a rude one - you can probably guess where my train of thought was leading me)

LOL, great cap!   I imagine that's the sort of gesture that I'm too slow to cap when I'm taking screenies XD

Hmm...
- retelling a story with a fist fight in it?

[Cuddlezarro]

Sannox wrote...

Gratuitious Zevran screenie:


I think he's either -
- dancing to 'Hot Stuff'
- going for a kiss, but has forgotten to wait for a dwarf
- saying 'It's this big'.
-eating an imaginary baguette, sideways
- (just deleted a rude one - you can probably guess where my train of thought was leading me)

I think its Number 1

[Nonvita]

Sannox wrote...

Yes, I think Taliesin is probably pretty close to what Zevran was before you meet him.  I agree that it doesn't seem to occur to him to leave the Crows.  (And he believes that Zevran would come back, if he could).  In fact, Taliesin may be a little further on than Zevran was before Rinna (or maybe the circumstances of Rinna's death affected him too) - while Zevran killed without question, Taliesin does question - and tries to find a way to let Zevran live and bring him back, even if it's a suicide mission.
I don't know if this is the case, but I wondered if Taliesin's life would also be forfeit if he failed his mission.   When Zevran refuses to go back, then neither can Taliesin, unless he kills Zevran.  
I think for both of them, things are more personal than they would maybe admit.  If they both thought Rinna had betrayed the Crows, then they both had as much or as little reason to spit in her face - but Taliesin didn't and Zevran did (I imagine, because he loved her, and so the betrayal was personal.).   When Zevran won't come back with Taliesin, I imagine it must feel personal for Taliesin too, after he'd risked his life to save him.

Wow, there are so many different ways to see it! I personally think Taliesan sees it as personal because he views Zevran as a product of his own creation. I'm not sure exactly how the whole master-slave thing went in the Crows, but I could imagine Taliesan being placed in charge of Zevran, something as a mentor. Everything in the way Zevran talks about Taliesan says to me that he was Zevran's mentor/sempai (I feel really awkward using that word but I think it conveys the sense better). I really do think that Taliesan simply can't accept the fact that Zevran
would go against everything he taught him. But I don't sense love in Taliesan's words so much as his pride being hurt. The fact he'll go after the Warden to avenge Zevran's death if killed, I think, is only because he hasn't seen Zevran betray the Crows. In that case, Zevran never would have broken free. But once Zevran does break free, it has much less to do with sentimental emotions (for Taliesan, at least) than with anger about being affronted by Zevran's betrayal.

I think Zevran's feelings toward Taliesan and Taliesan's feelings toward Zevran were two very different things.


Edit: And I agree, definitely #1! I can imagine a few pelvic thrusts thrown in there for some flavor.

Modifié par Nonvita, 21 mars 2010 - 10:16 .

[Cuddlezarro]

Edit: And I agree, definitely #1! I can imagine a few pelvic thrusts
thrown in there for some flavor. ../../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png

and some ass slapping!

[Cuddlezarro]

ok people it seems dew to some luck i ended up coming into some money (plus I raided my change jar for 10$ worth of quarters :E) and ended up buying Awakenings... who wants pictures of my Olresian hottie when I get done making him?

[ejoslin]

Totally off topic. My parents came over today and the talk turned to politics (they are the last of the dying liberals). ANYWAY, they started talking about the Teabaggers. My 12 year old son walked in, and my mom asked him, "Have you heard of the group that Sarah Palin is supporting? The ultra conservative group? The Teabaggers?" and he stopped cold. After a few seconds, he started laughing SO hard. Then he said something like, "I don't believe you," and left again.



I had to explain to my parents the OTHER meaning of teabagging. My dad is close to 80. I'm STILL laughing over this.