Addai67 wrote...
Back on topic and re. Taliesin: Does anyone else feel that somehow Taliesin is... wrong in that scene? I'm not sure if it's appearance or the voice acting. I think it's the latter. It just doesn't seem like how I would picture Taliesin at all.
I think it's the voice... it sounded a bit cheezy and he didn't have an Antivian accent. Made me think they simply settled for someone at the last minute.
As for the rest of the debate...
We don't actually know anything about Taliesen's circumstances, really. Since in certain epilogues Zevran can become leader of the Crows, it sounds like race isn't as big an issue in the organization as it is in general society. Also, they never specified that only elves are slaves. Zevran spoke of them buying children in general, and I'm sure some of the children of ****s were human, especially since a human man with an elf woman is supposed to produce a human child. It's perfectly possible that Taliesen could be a slave himself. I suppose he didn't get the 'you are worthless to us' speech that Zevran got after Rina, and didn't feal for Rina the way Zev did, so THAT would explain why Taliesen is so taken aback by Zevran revealing that he will NOT return to the Crows. Taliesen doesn't realize that there is a chance to switch sides. Zevran didn't know it himself untill he was laying in the dirt waiting for the Warden to finish him, wondering why he's still alive. Taliesen never had that moment. Zevran's chance at a new life was sheer luck. And I doubt Zevran would look and sound so heartbroken about Taliesen's death if Taliesen hadn't shown him some real loyalty and kindness. You get the sence there was a real bond there, but you never learn more about it.
I think Taliesen and Zevran are equals in a way. They have differing strengths and weeknesses, but work well as a team. If Taliesen were anything akin to a master to Zevran, I rather doubt Zevran would have headed off on a suicide mission to begin with. I think Taliesen would have stopped him from doing something that is so stupid from a survivalist's POV. And that's what the Crows are untill they break... pure survivalists. It's all they have.
I imagine reguardless of race they must have shared much of the same hell. I doubt they were able to express any bond in ways that are normal to us, as their masters would see that as a threat or weakness. That's why Taliesen's cold demeanor strikes me as a cover. He's as terrified at what he feels for Zevran, and the idea of betraying the Crows, as Zevran was about the same theoretical situation with Rinna (though she had turned out to be innocent of the betrayal)
It is exactly as Zev says... his only fault being his priorities. Zevran used to have the same priorities. Taliesen simply wasn't as lucky as Zevran. I see it as nothing less than tragic. Shakespearian even. Though of course it's no fault of Zevrans. It's one of those twists of fate that a characters can't escape from. No hero can save the characters from the simple playing out of cause and effect, the characters are hopeless victim of sircumstance.
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