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#10901
Cuddlezarro

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Am I the only person here who LIKED the cut letter from Zevran? not only did I call the reason bioware would use to explain why he wouldent be in the game when they announced romances wouldent be in the game but it makes sense no matter what ending you get because Zevran quite clearly states the crow will come after him at the end of the game and him leaving by himself can be interperated as either him trying to protect you or your responsibilities made it so you cant go with him (oh and remember there are several endings that state and the crows WILL need to be delt with

plus it was sweet in Zevran own way~

as for the epilogue card which i spoiled myself...its very vague and while some of the "what ifs" I cant see being done with any but my most power hungry characters but some I see no problem with (like the running off adventuring part)

oh and Ser pounce alot is adorable and Anders looks hot in those mage robes I showed off this weekend

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 22 mars 2010 - 04:48 .


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I liked the letter too! I thought it was fabulous and it is a shame that it's not in the game.

#10903
Cuddlezarro

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question would any one mind if I post some nonspoilerific fanservice shots from awakening (read combat with generic mobs) because while Zevran may not be in the game Xander, Anders and Nathaniel are pretty damn shmexy



oh and heres a picture comparison of what happened to Xanders helm (I prefer the new look actually)



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#10904
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MorGothic wrote...
Sssshhh...you will give EA idea's... next they will release something thats "pay as you play"...:pinched:


But but but... I'm TRYING to give EA ideas!  Let them know that there's probably a market who would make a well-written, Zevran-squee DLC.  And I'm sure there's also a market for Leliana and Orlais and Alistair, oh, I don't know, doing whatever Alistair may be doing afterwards.

Of course, the thing that would turn me off PERMANENTLY would be for it to be completely out of character.  But add in a bit more romance, some adventure, some crow killing...  Yes, I would totally pay for it.  

#10905
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I liked the letter very much, I didn't like that I didn't get it ;) Overall, in the matter of continuity Awakening worked well for my mage. She romanced Zevran, put Anora on the throne, spared Loghain and

SPOILER, highlight to read:

pissed off Wynne, who left. Coversation they had in Amaranthine was deliciously nasty. And I loved Loghain's cameo, he was so friendly, I wanted to hug him :P

#10906
Cuddlezarro

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not Zevran squee but no spoilers what so ever for awakening... Anders is pretty shmexy however

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Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 22 mars 2010 - 04:57 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, out of curiosity, how much would anyone be willing to spend for a DLC that featured going to antiva and dealing with the crows with Zevran -- provided Zevran was true to character as a friend or a romance partner? Say it was only a little longer than RtO. I seriously would spend FAR too much for something like that. Maybe $15 - $20. YES, I'm stupid that way, but I would be able to rationalize it with good writing and the voice actor! *sigh*

I support this idea - with my hard earned money :) I would pay... maybe even a bit more, but only if the quality was ensured - most importantly the writing, VA and in character everything.
OOC would be major turn off, that's for sure :/

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Yeh, the one wording change I would make to my post is that Zevran was true to character as a friend AND a romance partner.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 mars 2010 - 05:03 .


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Cuddlezarro wrote...
Anders is pretty shmexy however

I agree! Your robe is awesome :o

#10910
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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Anders is pretty shmexy however


Nathaniel! :P

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ejoslin wrote...

Yeh, the one wording change I would make to my post is that Zevran was true to character as a friend AND a romance partner.  

And that should be included too (both things at one time), because it is part of his awesomeness.

Modifié par Minaleth, 22 mars 2010 - 05:11 .


#10912
Cuddlezarro

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AnniLau wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Anders is pretty shmexy however


Nathaniel! :P


Nathaniel is Shmexy but sadly the robes are mage only... unless I use the cheat console and turn him into a mage and take loads of shmexy Nathaniel screenies :devil: otherwise I will have to take a bucket load of thigh/crotch shots of him in leather armor

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 22 mars 2010 - 05:24 .


#10913
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soulsweeper87 wrote...

I liked the letter very much, I didn't like that I didn't get it ;) Overall, in the matter of continuity Awakening worked well for my mage. She romanced Zevran, put Anora on the throne, spared Loghain and

SPOILER, highlight to read:

pissed off Wynne, who left. Coversation they had in Amaranthine was deliciously nasty. And I loved Loghain's cameo, he was so friendly, I wanted to hug him :P


My imported character did exactly the same. Yes, I agree.   I'll try to do a spoiler ...


I wanted more than a hug!  That's who I thought was flirting with me - don't you think he seemed happy - well, more than he had been?)

Modifié par Sannox, 22 mars 2010 - 06:00 .


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Anders simpatico ...

Nathaniel good ...

But none of them have no possibility of comparison with Zevran

#10915
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ejoslin wrote...

MorGothic wrote...
Sssshhh...you will give EA idea's... next they will release something thats "pay as you play"...:pinched:


But but but... I'm TRYING to give EA ideas!  Let them know that there's probably a market who would make a well-written, Zevran-squee DLC.  And I'm sure there's also a market for Leliana and Orlais and Alistair, oh, I don't know, doing whatever Alistair may be doing afterwards.

Of course, the thing that would turn me off PERMANENTLY would be for it to be completely out of character.  But add in a bit more romance, some adventure, some crow killing...  Yes, I would totally pay for it.  


It's Bioware you want to give ideas not EA...when EA get ideas bad, bad, bad things can happen...

Oh don't me wrong I'd love some Romance DLC for both new and old companion's, providing as you said it high quailty stuff (and because I want a Sigun romance:wub:).


Sannox wrote...

soulsweeper87 wrote...

I
liked the letter very much, I didn't like that I didn't get it ;)
Overall, in the matter of continuity Awakening worked well for my mage.
She romanced Zevran, put Anora on the throne, spared Loghain and

SPOILER,
highlight to read:

pissed
off Wynne, who left. Coversation they had in Amaranthine was deliciously
nasty. And I loved Loghain's cameo, he was so friendly, I wanted to hug
him [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]


My
imported character did exactly the same. Yes, I agree.   I'll try to do
a spoiler ...


I wanted more than a hug!  That's who
I thought was flirting with me - don't you think he seemed happy - well,
more than he had been?)


Your bad people....I haven't completed Awakening yet and now I want to rush my mage through Origin's to see Loghain's camo...:pinched:

Modifié par MorGothic, 22 mars 2010 - 06:04 .


#10916
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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, out of curiosity, how much would anyone be willing to spend for a DLC that featured going to antiva and dealing with the crows with Zevran -- provided Zevran was true to character as a friend or and as a romance partner? Say it was only a little longer than RtO. I seriously would spend FAR too much for something like that. Maybe $15 - $20. YES, I'm stupid that way, but I would be able to rationalize it with good writing and the voice actor! *sigh*

Edit: Yes, did a slight word change.


Definitely. Put me in the "I might even be willing to pay a bit more" category .. though I suspect it would suck unless it was written by David Gaider... given that Zevran seems out of character in some of the DLC (........RtO).

And even though Anders and Nathaniel aren't as awesome as Zev, at least they were nice to look at and made Awakening much more fun... though I must say, I greatly prefered Anders. His comments when you click on Ser Pounce a lot... lol. (It's no surprise that David Gaider wrote their characters as well.)

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 22 mars 2010 - 06:13 .


#10917
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MorGothic wrote...

It's Bioware you want to give ideas not EA...when EA get ideas bad, bad, bad things can happen...

Oh don't me wrong I'd love some Romance DLC for both new and old companion's, providing as you said it high quailty stuff (and because I want a Sigun romance:wub:).



Bah, I just hope someone thinks, "Zevran romance DLC? $.$"  And puts out a good one!

Edit: And yes, Senorfuzzylips, that's the one problem, how Zevran seems ooc in the DLCs.  However, I think a Zevran romance would be a bit more careful (I'd hope).  The letter that should have put in the game sounded like him, so there's no reason why it couldn't be good!  

Modifié par ejoslin, 22 mars 2010 - 06:13 .


#10918
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Actually I was seriously hoping Anders would be romanceable (and he looks smoldering in those robes!). I love Zevran a ton, but he doesn't work for every one of my characters. Anders would have filled in the remaining holes nicely (yes, I know exactly what I just said). Ah well, I have no idea about anything about Awakening, so forgive me if I'm off-base and please don't go out of your way to correct me, but here's hoping some of the Awakening characters may continue forward and become romances... Nathaniel's pretty schmexy too.

Well, at least we can pretend the letter was in the game! Hopefully it stops all of your whining about the "for a time" phrase... Geesh, you people can romance Zevran and yet still be that crazy over semantics?! How can you stand yourselves? XD

Edit:
I can imagine the proposal for the Zevran DLC now:
Marketing: "Sir, we have five people who say they're willing to pay $20 for a Zevran DLC. I think this is marketable!"
Boss: "You're fired."

:?

Modifié par Nonvita, 22 mars 2010 - 06:17 .


#10919
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I would pay more than is sensible for Zevran DLC. I'd want something good though. A proper story, suspense, drama, peril, and a continuation of the romance. I wouldn't want it to be a cosy happy story (except at the end). I want stresses and obstacles, passion and heartache, doubts and fears. In Antiva. And definitely true to character and the same voice actor. I'd happily pay full price for that (i.e. the price of Origins).  Or, um, whatever it cost, embarrassingly.

Modifié par Sannox, 22 mars 2010 - 06:17 .


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Nonvita wrote...

*snip*

Edit:
I can imagine the proposal for the Zevran DLC now:
Marketing: "Sir, we have five people who say they're willing to pay $20 for a Zevran DLC. I think this is marketable!"
Boss: "You're fired."

:?


Hehe.. I imagine this type of project would be more of a "romance pack," with an Antivan adventure with Zev, uh, shoe shopping with the annoying redhead, and er, toy shopping or whatever with Al. I suppose you could also have a searching for Morrigan type adventure too. Sounds like too much to hope for, though. :crying:

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A Morrigan one could be really good, although it's not one I'd pay a lot for.

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The Awakenings guys are OK, but are any gay/bi (playing through with my male PC)? Anders talks about women, but I can't remember Nathaniel saying anything. Oghren seems to be straight (I did try, in Origins).

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The Morrigan hunt is pretty creepy to me, actually. I mean, she tells you not to go looking for her very clearly, and I really think she means it. I can't imagine breaking up with a boyfriend (even one you care about a lot), and having him show up a couple years later telling you he's been searching for you the whole time. That's not romantic, that's stalkerish.
It makes sense wanting to know what became of the child, but the romantic ideals some people have about it kind of weird me out...

Edit: None of them are bi, that I know of. But then none of them are romanceable either... =(

Edit 2: So wait, is it possible to explain to me the whole Nathaniel/Thomas thing without spoilers? I don't understand why Nathaniel was never mentioned in Origins but then suddenly pops up out of nowhere... They're not the same person, right?

Modifié par Nonvita, 22 mars 2010 - 06:36 .


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Minaleth wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Ok, out of curiosity, how much would anyone be willing to spend for a DLC that featured going to antiva and dealing with the crows with Zevran -- provided Zevran was true to character as a friend or a romance partner? Say it was only a little longer than RtO. I seriously would spend FAR too much for something like that. Maybe $15 - $20. YES, I'm stupid that way, but I would be able to rationalize it with good writing and the voice actor! *sigh*

I support this idea - with my hard earned money :) I would pay... maybe even a bit more, but only if the quality was ensured - most importantly the writing, VA and in character everything.
OOC would be major turn off, that's for sure :/


Further seconded, but not just out of my intense like of Zevran.  I enjoy the sort of story this would have to be.

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**wheee discussion of Awakenings companions**


Sannox wrote...

The Awakenings guys are OK, but are any gay/bi (playing through with my male PC)? Anders talks about women, but I can't remember Nathaniel saying anything. Oghren seems to be straight (I did try, in Origins).

Sresla has been the only one I've seen to comment that Nate is bi, but I'm not sure where he got that idea.  (I would not object. Image IPB)  Anders does seem to be hetero, from what I've seen so far...

Nonvita wrote...

Edit: None of them are bi, that I know of. But then none of them are romanceable either... =(

Edit 2: So wait, is it possible to explain to me the whole Nathaniel/Thomas thing without spoilers? I don't understand why Nathaniel was never mentioned in Origins but then suddenly pops up out of nowhere... They're not the same person, right?

They definitely aren't, I get the impression Nathaniel is the oldest of the children, but I'm not sure that's true... and he talks about "his brother" (Thomas, I would assume).  Nathaniel's been away from home for years, which may be why he was never mentioned in Origins.