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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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#11451
sami jo

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ejoslin wrote...

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Zevran turned you down? How does that happen?


Well, if he starts acting all coy and you choose, "Well, if you don't WANT to," he ends the conversation telling you he didn't say that and calling you a tease.

@sami jo Don't go to the tent until you have him at 100 (love) and dont' give him a plot gift.  Giving him bars and getting him to 100 that way will keep it glitched.  Otherwise, it drops back to (adore).


Too late.  He got the uber-kiss when he finally coughed up the nerve to get Zev into the tent and Zev glitched into love with the convo after the tent when asked about love.  I replayed it several times and he only glitched to love when I selected that response, which is what my character would have said anyway.  Or did you mean don't go to the tent again?

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sami jo wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

Zevran turned you down? How does that happen?


Well, if he starts acting all coy and you choose, "Well, if you don't WANT to," he ends the conversation telling you he didn't say that and calling you a tease.

@sami jo Don't go to the tent until you have him at 100 (love) and dont' give him a plot gift.  Giving him bars and getting him to 100 that way will keep it glitched.  Otherwise, it drops back to (adore).


Too late.  He got the uber-kiss when he finally coughed up the nerve to get Zev into the tent and Zev glitched into love with the convo after the tent when asked about love.  I replayed it several times and he only glitched to love when I selected that response, which is what my character would have said anyway.  Or did you mean don't go to the tent again?


That's what I mean.  Don't go AGAIN until you get him up to 100 with bars.  Once it's glitched into love, it will drop out down to (adore) with the +1 approval with going to the tent.

edit: *grin* English is my first language no matter how poorly I manage to communicate in it!

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Arrrrrrrrrg I'm in such a bad mood since I can't go to Coachella. I want to cry. :crying:

Going to have to load me up some Dragon Age and try out that sexy Zevran kiss to cheer me up. Might be the only thing that can help me recover. :(

#11454
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oh dear... Yes, Zev-squee fixes many things!

#11455
Cuddlezarro

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gah Combat tweaks modified tactics slot progression has screwed up my tactics slots in awakening the second I went past level 26 I lost most of my slots T_T

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Uh oh. That's part of my fear of starting Awakening- I have way too many mods that could cause way too many problems. >.< Is there a version of Combat Tweaks without the tactics slot progression?



And yes, Zevran squee fixes many many things. I feel bad that even my own boyfriend can't cheer me up half as well as him a lot of times. XD (I'm completely not obsessed or crazy.)

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SurrealSadi

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*chuckles* No, none of us are obsessed or crazy :)





Yikes! That's the ONE thing that makes me glad I play Console. No f*ck-ups due to mods messing up.

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Nonvita wrote...

Uh oh. That's part of my fear of starting Awakening- I have way too many mods that could cause way too many problems. >.

And yes, Zevran squee fixes many many things. I feel bad that even my own boyfriend can't cheer me up half as well as him a lot of times. XD (I'm completely not obsessed or crazy.)


sadly no because for some idiotic reason the tactics progression is NOT an optional add on (which pissed me off since the mod overrides the 25 tactics slot mod)

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CHARSEN!
Zevran's earring imports into Awakening.  You've made my mage a happy elf!  Well, happier anyway.  :wub:

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Addai67 wrote...

CHARSEN!
Zevran's earring imports into Awakening.  You've made my mage a happy elf!  Well, happier anyway.  :wub:

omg yay! You've got a lucky elf indeed, Addai XD

Too bad my elf's 10 hours into Awakening already :crying:  Buuut good to know. XD

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Addai67 wrote...

CHARSEN!
Zevran's earring imports into Awakening.  You've made my mage a happy elf!  Well, happier anyway.  :wub:


I was just looking into that, coincidentally.... :devil:

#11462
Cuddlezarro

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why is this on the second page?



heres a picture of Zev at the dalish camp...why does he look not happy



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#11463
SurrealSadi

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Because while he holds no allegiance to the Dalish, the fact that they were attacked out of nowhere and many are dead or dying doesn't sit well with him.

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

why is this on the second page?

heres a picture of Zev at the dalish camp...why does he look not happy

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Clearly he is unhappy because he is very warm in all that unnecessary armor... ;)

#11465
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Aww...


*Awakening spoiler ahoy*


I got the line from Oghren about Zevran, which he says if you let Nathaniel go.  After letting him go, when you travel on the map the next time, there's a cut scene where Nate begs you to take him into the Grey Wardens.  Oghren says "Careful, or he might go all Zevran on you."

Elf mage thinks to herself:  I WISH!

:D

#11466
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okay, Charsen's answer is better than mine. I guess icky monthly hormones make the brain think too logically.

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I finished Awakening and got the Zevran epilogue card. For reasons that I've said earlier, I don't like it - why would they take over the Crows? But still, I suppose that was just a rumour. And a showdown - yes, there was going to be a showdown if he'd gone off without telling me and hadn't written me a letter! I think my mage felt tired towards the end. All his companions kept disapproving (when did Zevran disapprove? Hardly ever, and then you could easily just bump it back up again). They should try making the decisions if they don't like my mage's. There was a lack of elfs. (I recruited the only elf last).



I did enjoy it, though. It was really annoying that I couldn't play some of the quests. I do feel like playing it again choosing different options, although I'm not sure why some options worked and what would have happened if I'd chosen the others.



Spoiler .....





I thought I was going to be able to have a last fight with the companions not in my group, like the fight at the gates at Denerim.



I found it easier than Origins. I think that must have been due to importing a character (mine was level 20, and I think the Orlesian warden is level 18). Even the final boss was easy. I might try it on nightmare next time. I liked the new areas. I didn't like the dialogue system and having to take all the companions to all the areas was a pain. Yes, I understand that the idea is that you bond with the ones you take out with you. But it means that you have to take everybody out everywhere.



Back to Zevran for now, although I'm not feeling the same chemistry with my human female as I did with my male elf. Maybe it's the tent scene.

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Incidentally, how tall are elf males? In the cut scenes, Oghren kept looking up at me as if I was 7 feet tall!

I imagined Zevran being about 5'5 ish (maybe because I played a dwarf first and he was so tall :)), but the elfs are quite a lot shorter than average human females (who would be what - not much more than 5' 3" ish on average?), so it must be closer to 5'0". Or less (6 inches difference?)?

Modifié par Sannox, 24 mars 2010 - 08:17 .


#11469
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Actually looking at them together, he's quite significantly shorter than a human female - more than 6". So, he's definitely under 5', I think. Shorter than I thought!

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And is noticeably looking up ...
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Modifié par Sannox, 24 mars 2010 - 08:23 .


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It appears that either humans are generally very tall or elves are shorties :)
I was looking at some screenshots and female elven mage is much shorter than Zevran. She must be pocket size :3
But if I recall any elves I met they didn't seem to be short. I do not dare to estimate any numbers... the engine is deceiving. Things appear different in cutscenes and in various views - in isometric everyone seem to be almost equal height ...

Modifié par Minaleth, 24 mars 2010 - 09:23 .


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Also very interested in this height question.  Since everyone within a race/gender uses the same body model you don't really have any reference.  I can't imagine dwarves being under three feet, that would just be ridiculous, but we're getting near that territory if elves are as short as they appear....  I'm assuming humans (at least Fereldens) must be on the tall side to make this work.

Also, off topic (as usual, because I'm always four pages behind on this thread)... what is this I hear about an uber kiss?  Did I miss something by jumping Zev's bones?  I think I must have.

Modifié par Tellervo, 24 mars 2010 - 10:42 .


#11473
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Part of it is camera angle. An elf male is about a half head shorter than a human female. Dwarf female comes up to just under Alistair's shoulder and just above Zevran's chin. Human females are almost as tall as human males. Elf females are several inches shorter than elf males.

Why would Zevran take over the Crows? That is one of his endings in Origins. If the warden commits the ultimate sacrifice, whether as friend or lover, Zevran ends up taking over the Crows -- he kills his way to the top when they come back after him. I guess the writers liked that idea so kept it going.

@Tellervo  There is a dwarf kiss (male and female), where Zevran kneels down to kiss them.  It's one of the better (or the best) kiss animations in the game. 

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 mars 2010 - 10:54 .


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Hiya. I don't have all that much time, but enough to pop in and say 'hi'.

About the height thing, I have screen-shots where the human female is just a forehead taller, some were she is only a half a forehead taller, and some where he looks up like in Sannox's screen-shot. I think it depends on where she/he is standing, and let's not forget that the elf male suddenly is taller than Zevran, and the dwarf female miraculously grows to accommodate Alistair.

Anyway, on to my male elf tale. I'm quite determined to bore you all with it, whether you like it or not, muahahahah.

Well, he's a dalish elf, 2H beserker. Yes, you read that right. I'm in for the challenge. Lordy, that 2H is slow. It deals a lot of damage, but it's sooooo slooooow.
We shut down the Zevran romance, just to be on the safe side. Besides, it will give me the opportunity to see our assassin as a friend.

I haven't done anything with Leliana (I hope), I'm kind of torn. I read that Morrigan and Leliana snipe at each other if both are romanced. But I don't know whether my dalish is up to it. He's quite taken with human women, he kissed Bella, and Kaitlyn. I didn't even know it was possible to kiss Kaitlyn.
He refrained sleeping with Gheyna though.(mostly because I don't know if that'll hurt the 'Cammen/Gheyna' relationship).

However, I think I'll shut Leliana down as well. I don't think I can stomach it. Besides, Ardyn is quite taken with Morrigan, he finds her interesting, intriguing, and challenging. I inadvertantly turned the Morrigan romance on very early. I had that "You grew up in the wilds" conversation, and one line of dialogue was different. He chose "You can probe me anytime".

That's a double meaning, isn't it? Don't deny it, that's the only line that's different, and after he used it, Morrigan was 'interested'. I wasn't sure whether it was just saying "you can ask me any question" in a joking way, or if it was something different altogether. Well, now I know. I searched around, and sure enough, it definitely has a double meaning. Although, it would fit turning the m/m romance on much better, ahem. Just my opinion in what I found out about the 'double'.

Zevran was funny. He "hoped that my dalish was utterly stupid?" :lol:
Also, I have to reiterate that the Zevran romance is not only easy to turn off, after that talk he gave my dalish a +6. So I call rubbish if someone tells me that he won't stop flirting, and that the PC loses approval if turning his romance off. My elf also is already in the 27+ zone with Zevran, all without flirting and gunning for the highest approval. Boots, small gold-bar, and polite/friendly conversation is all it takes.

I know, I know. Lot's of text. Bear with me, I'm swamped at work, and popping in here actually relaxes me, and gives me a break. Anyway, it wouldn't be complete without me showing off my dalish. I'm so proud of my first male. If all goes well, I'll make another elf male, and this one will go for Zevran. It's so much fun to find new stuff, yay.

At the joining. I tweaked him a bit and started over. Now he has a different tattoo, and is more tanned, as befitting a dalish.

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Meeting Morrigan. This actually convinced me that he'll go for Morrigan in a big way. Look at the expression in his eyes.

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At Flemeth's hut. I have no clue why his hair looks purplish. It really is the color you see in the other pictures.

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#11475
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Awwww, Sabriana, your dalish is so pretty! He looks very noble as well. I love the black hair and blue eyes.