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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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Sabriana

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sami jo wrote...

Is there a way to see if the audio is present? I'm still trying to find my way around the toolset. If so, I foresee a mod to fix this. It would certainly motivate me to figure out how to do it. *eyes the heap of grading I should be doing instead of playing with the toolset*


I'm still doing the same. The toolset is quite a challenge, especially because I have so little time.
Pfeh. To heck with the grading. Torture your students. It's a time-honored tradition, after all. :lol:

And I agree. It's totally a crime if those lines are not modded back in.

*Looks around for Charsen, who seems to have gone into hiding, lol*

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Hehe, not sure Charsen's usually about at this hour -- classes perhaps?



*wonders if ejoslin is busily modding!*

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sami jo wrote...

Is there a way to see if the audio is present? I'm still trying to find my way around the toolset. If so, I foresee a mod to fix this. It would certainly motivate me to figure out how to do it. *eyes the heap of grading I should be doing instead of playing with the toolset*


It's present.   You can preview the lines.  it's all there.

Edit: I cannot get it to trigger.  But I'm having some other technical problems.  Like I can't get ghosts of dialog tweaks out of my system either!  I'm thinking there may be a conflict there, but there shouldn't be.  But hmmmm.  I sound like an airhead.  I've done all the obvious, removed files from both override files, uninstalled in dao mod manager as well.  But that's ok, because now I've somehow managed to get one of my directories really angry with me and it's not accepting a different export.

*grin* This SHOULD be easier!

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 mars 2010 - 02:08 .


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Drake Sigar wrote...

What's the romantic appeal of Zevran? Watch this.
"ANTONIO BANDERAS!"
*Every lady on the forum swoons*
See? Image IPB

It's not just the accent, Zevran truly is a fun guy to have around. He's still very badass, being an assassin and all, but it seems all ths dealing with death have made him enjoy life to the fullest while you still cling on to it. It's really a lot of relief in the dark and gritty setting of the game. Hell, I'm not even into guys and I still enjoy every second with that silly lunatic :lol:

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ejoslin wrote...
It's present.   You can preview the lines.  it's all there.

Edit: I cannot get it to trigger.  But I'm having some other technical problems.  Like I can't get ghosts of dialog tweaks out of my system either!  I'm thinking there may be a conflict there, but there shouldn't be.  But hmmmm.  I sound like an airhead.  I've done all the obvious, removed files from both override files, uninstalled in dao mod manager as well.  But that's ok, because now I've somehow managed to get one of my directories really angry with me and it's not accepting a different export.

*grin* This SHOULD be easier!


I can give it a go.  It should be easy to mod back in.  What file are the lines in?

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party_events

Edit: and thank you so much.  This has been an exercise in frustration.  It SHOULD be easy and it probably is.  I just can't get it.  I'm sure I'm missing something really silly.  So it's good that there are people smarter than me here!

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 mars 2010 - 02:35 .


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Ok, re-asking a question because I think my x-box keeps screwing up.



What order do the cutscenes go in, and when should they occur? ie the Banns vs Loghain cutscene, the cutscene introducing Zevran, etc?



Because I think I was supposed to have gotten one that I haven't gotten yet, and i think that will mean it will push everything one quest behind. :(

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You get Bann Sexy Vs. Loghain between Flemeth's hut and Lothering. You get Zevran's cutscene after completing one of the 5 main quests.

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LOL, ejoslin.  I didn't mean to imply anything about your modding skills!  Sorry!  Forgive?  :(

It just sounded like you were having trouble due to mod conflicts, that's all I meant.  ;)

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Ok, there would definitely be a conflict between DT and the Zevran at the gates file. Hmmmm. I wonder if that's why I'm not able to get it to trigger. For some reason, not all my saves (my ones that happen to have saves at the gates) are not recognizing that DT is off, though other saves, earlier ones, do. Or maybe I'm just doing it way wrong!

Edit: I have NO modding skills at ALL!  *grin*  I feel like an idiot and I am SO grateful to you!  My modding skills seem to consist of saying, "Hey, I found this in the toolset," and hoping someone else thinks it's cool.  Gilded Age, PLEASE please please give it a go!  I'm having serious issues here.

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 mars 2010 - 02:45 .


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ejoslin wrote...

You get Bann Sexy Vs. Loghain between Flemeth's hut and Lothering. You get Zevran's cutscene after completing one of the 5 main quests.


Crap. I swear I didn't get that this time.  Can you screw these up somehow?  Like if you go to camp instead of going straight to the next place or something?  I know that's not an option for Lothering, but...


Argh! Why didn't I get that cutscene?! Now I'm going to have to start all over from Ostagar, redo Lothering, and redo the Mage Tower and some of the Fade. Rwar!

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WingsandRings wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

You get Bann Sexy Vs. Loghain between Flemeth's hut and Lothering. You get Zevran's cutscene after completing one of the 5 main quests.


Crap. I swear I didn't get that this time.  Can you screw these up somehow?  Like if you go to camp instead of going straight to the next place or something?  I know that's not an option for Lothering, but...


Argh! Why didn't I get that cutscene?! Now I'm going to have to start all over from Ostagar, redo Lothering, and redo the Mage Tower and some of the Fade. Rwar!


???  You have to finish all of the fade.  You can't leave during that.  If you somehow leave before completing "a broken circle" then you won't get the cutscene.

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No, I mean I'm going to have to upload an earlier playthrough at Ostagar, redo all of it, Lothering, and the Mages Circle/Fade. I am currently in the Fade in the mage's circle, but I haven't completed it, which is why I said redo "some" of it. (Cause some of it I wouldn't be REdoing this playthrough, just doing).

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Gilded Age wrote...

LOL, ejoslin.  I didn't mean to imply anything about your modding skills!  Sorry!  Forgive?  :(

It just sounded like you were having trouble due to mod conflicts, that's all I meant.  ;)


You are vastly overestimating me!  *grin* I haven't ever modded before.  I will learn, but am having real issues with it.  I really do appreciate you looking at this.  It should be a simple fix. I do see the problem (I think) but I can't correct it.  

Edit: There is a DT conflict as DT fixes these files in regards to Alistair.

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 mars 2010 - 02:54 .


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Sabriana

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See, I knew he was in hiding. classes. Psht. What kind of an excuse is that? ;)



Oh, Gilded Age if you can get that going, that would be great. Of course, if it is in conflict with DT, I'm going to cry. Seriously.


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Sabriana, it's not a horrible conflict. It's the conversation at the city gates is all -- DT's modder fixed it for Alistair. If you can override that particular part, so you don't get the Alistair fixes, but the Zevran fixes are better anyway.

Edit: GOT IT!  Well, kind of.  I got the dialog to trigger for the romance, but it now won't trigger the "friendly" version.  So now I have to test a few more things, but honestly, I'm not going to try to hard to make it perfect. I can't get the kiss in there, I don't think -- I have some wysiwyg issues, actually, and can't get to the "actions" area.

Second edit: It's working with Dialog Tweaks, but again, NO kisses.  OMG, when you tell Zevran you love him, and he answers, "Yes, yes, I know that."  He ducks his head and omg, SQUEE!

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 mars 2010 - 03:10 .


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sami jo wrote...

Okay, now I feel cheated.  I want this dialogue back! And I want that kiss!

OMG!!  It is the devs who are cruel to the end.   Why oh why was this stuff left out?  Did they think that Zevran fans would be squeamish about too much squee?  Epic fail on that decision!!!!

Of course, since Zevran was all but completely forgotten in Awakening, the devs weren't done being cruel, either.  Image IPB

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Ok, I have a really crappy mod if anyone is interested in it. It will not trigger the "friendly" dialog (only the "love"). There's no kisses because I can't get to the "action" button and can't figure out any way to put it in. HOWEVER, it does work, and works with DT installed if anyone is interested. I'm sure someone will make something better like within the next day or so, but, well, it's there. And fabulous. If Zevran is in love, that is.

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*just woke up* what file has these super secret lines? i can extract the sound files and see if they are there. =)

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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, I have a really crappy mod if anyone is interested in it. It will not trigger the "friendly" dialog (only the "love"). There's no kisses because I can't get to the "action" button and can't figure out any way to put it in. HOWEVER, it does work, and works with DT installed if anyone is interested. I'm sure someone will make something better like within the next day or so, but, well, it's there. And fabulous. If Zevran is in love, that is.

I can't imagine where you'll find a market for that.  Ok, where is it?  :D

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I don't *deliberately* torture my students, at least not often. They may beg to differ. ;-)



I know I won't have time to play with making mods for a while, no matter how tempting it is. I'll just have to offer baked goods to tempt others into doing it for me.

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Someone needs to put this stuff up on Youtube, for those of us who don't have PC versions.

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If someone gets that stuff modded back in, you will skip canonization as a saint and go straight to deification.

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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, I have a really crappy mod if anyone is interested in it. It will not trigger the "friendly" dialog (only the "love"). There's no kisses because I can't get to the "action" button and can't figure out any way to put it in. HOWEVER, it does work, and works with DT installed if anyone is interested. I'm sure someone will make something better like within the next day or so, but, well, it's there. And fabulous. If Zevran is in love, that is.


Interested?!?!  Are you insane, woman?  Gimme!  :lol:

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Charsen, they are there, the animations are great, I was able to mod them in, in a crappy way. It can seriously be improved from what I did. The file is party_events. The only way I was able to get the romance dialog to trigger was to move the friendly dialog. I can't put the kisses in because of a weird graphical thing, but there are supposed to be kisses after every dialog choice when he's in love.

The dialog and animation IS there though. And fabulous.

Edit: I'll make my file available, but I have a feeling Charsen will make them far better than I can do.  But I'm still SERIOUSLY squeeing over this.  OMG.

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 mars 2010 - 03:16 .