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[Nonvita]

Darkannex wrote...

This thread here : On page 2, there is an override-I can say that I am able to pickpocket again.
http://social.biowar...index/1645806/2

It would be cool if we have to go to a new thread(say this one gets locked) that the first thread can be used to keep track of all the true epicness of things. Like mods and whatnot. Actually, there should be a Zevran lovers thread devoted towards mods/movies/whatnot organized ^.^

Thank you! I've been hesitant to update to 1.3, but I was thinking of doing it soon, so that'll come in handy.

And if we did try to do a new thread, there would be some crazy battles regarding what content is epic enough to make it in there. That said, it sure would be handy- there's been so much great content lost to the pages in here...

[Darkannex]

Indeed. And as fun as having almost 500 pages is...I can see true problems to newcomers.

Well if someone well-known were to start it, I'd trust them enough to know what content would be noteworthy. Not neccessarily photos or movies - but more like the least known things, or faqs/guides/mods, etc.

[WingsandRings]

sami jo wrote...

@ejoslin: :wub::wub::wub::wub:

One more main quest for my first PC playthrough and then Landsmeet and battle and squeeage! 

My inexperience little mage-boy had the "licking the pole" talk with Allistair last night.  It was absolutely comical for him to be acting all experienced after having completely bungled asking Zev to the tent repeatedly, getting all bashful at the massage offer and only managing to haul Zev off to the tent after the poem.  It was worth torturing him to hear how amused Zev was when he told my mage that he knew where Zev slept if he changed his mind and commented on how he seemed to have heard this offer before when the poor mage would try to proposition him again. 

How do you bungle propositioning Zevran? Do you pick the wrong dialogue option or do you make him too low on approval or what?

[Nonvita]

WingsandRings wrote...

How do you bungle propositioning Zevran? Do you pick the wrong dialogue option or do you make him too low on approval or what?

His responses to your request are all jokes, and potentially disheartening jokes for the weak-willed. So there are plenty of options to get nervous and basically say "forget I mentioned anything." But it's very easy to get him into the tent.

[ejoslin]

Nonvita wrote...

Darkannex wrote...

Happily I just found a fix for the pickpocketing bug! *squee*

Ooo where can I find it?

ejoslin wrote...

I just need to figure out how to edit flags.  I unkludged my mod a bit, but still can't get the "friendly" dialog in the game.  I'll look into editing flags tomorrow.  I want to get in SOME playing.  My lovely DNF should be at that point soon.  And really, I can't face another Zev breakup for testing this dialog any more today!  Even with headphones off and escaping through the worst of it, I HATE doing it.

Lol! Well I can try it out on my HN tonight, assuming one of the lucky people who are already at home don't try it first. She finished at +95 friendly, but I can try bumping him up to 100 too. No breakup necessary.

Awww, thank you!  But it's the flag itself that's bad and needs to be fixed.  I tried setting it to "warm" and "friendly eligible" and no dice.  It just won't work.  So I need to fix that stupid "friendly (defined)" flag to get the friendship version back in.  On the plus side, I was testing on my Alistair hostile game (cleaned up a bug there as well) so I got to tell him to ****** off a lot of times!  Helps with the frustration, being mean to a really nice guy!

[Nonvita]

ejoslin wrote...

Awww, thank you!  But it's the flag itself that's bad and needs to be fixed.  I tried setting it to "warm" and "friendly eligible" and no dice.  It just won't work.  So I need to fix that stupid "friendly (defined)" flag to get the friendship version back in.  On the plus side, I was testing on my Alistair hostile game (cleaned up a bug there as well) so I got to tell him to ****** off a lot of times!  Helps with the frustration, being mean to a really nice guy!

NP. Why would I even need an excuse to try it out?

So the friendly and warm dialogues are supposed to be different? Is that the problem now, or something else? Arrrrrg I want to get home so I can open up the toolset to check this out!

[ejoslin]

Yes, they are supposed to be different. The dialog with the "dark city" speech is supposed to go to a friend. When you look at the toolset, you'll see what I'm talking about. The dialog tree is flagged "friendly" but it doesn't trigger there. So there's an issue with the flag itself. Same with when leaving him at the gates -- there's a line with that same flag that is only supposed to appear when he's friendly but you get it at love. And of course, you don't get the "friendly" dialog at ALL when at friendly. It shouldn't be a difficult fix, actually. I just need to read a bit and do it.

[Nonvita]

Wow, sounds like a lot of screwy stuff going on there.

Hey wait a second! Is the Dark City dialogue always supposed to trigger for friends, or are there different possibilities? Because I most certainly didn't get that on my HN...

*getting irritated at the time* Be 9:30 already, darn it!

[ejoslin]

Yes, the dialog there is bugged. 76+ friendly should trigger that dialog. It obviously does not.

Edit: Makes me sad, too

Modifié par ejoslin, 25 mars 2010 - 11:55 .

[AndreaDraco]

ejoslin wrote...
Edit: Friendship Version (which is out of my mod, but people at Friendly didn't get it anyway)
Zevran: So we head into the city to face the archdemon together, do we? Just as it should be. (pleased)
Zevran: Allow me to say that it has been a pleasure, my friend. Assassinating you was the luckiest thing that could have happened to me. (he is speaking to a good friend, perhaps before their final battle together)\\\\\\\\

Warden: Let's be thankful you're not as good as you think.

Zevran: Laughs And yet good enough to fight an archdemon! Imagine that! (amused)
OR
Warden: It is good to have you here, Zevran.
Zevran: By your side I would willingly storm the gates of the Dark City itself. Do not doubt it. (earnest thing to say to a comrade)
OR
Warden: Say that again when we meet the archdemon.
Zevran: That... is an excellent point. I take it back. (amused)
OR
Warden: Right. You're making me cry, here.
Zevran: Perish the thought! (affectionate)

LOVE version:

Zevran: So we head into the city to face the archdemon together, do we? Just as it should be. (pleased)
Zevran: If this should be the last we speak, I want you to know... assassinating you was the luckiest thing that could have happened to me. (he is saying something earnest before the final battle to the one he loves)

Warden: Let's be thankful you're not a better assassin.
Zevran: Ah. Cruel to the end. This is why I adore you so. (amused -- prelude to a kiss)
OR
Warden: Will you still say that when we reach the archdemon?
Zevran: I would say it at the gates of the Dark City itself. (intense, passionate -- prelude to a kiss, "Dark City" = Hell)
OR
Warden: I love you, Zevran. I hope you know that.
Zevran: Yes. Yes, I know that. (amused -- he can't say it himself -- prelude to a kiss)
OR
Warden: Don't say your good-byes just yet.
Zevran: Of course not. Wherever you lead, I will gladly follow. (loving -- prelude to a kiss)

You're simply priceless, ejoslin. Priceless.

I must say that I'm glad that the Friendly dialogue can be so easily read as a Love dialogue (I never choose option with 'my friend', in it, for example, and Zevran's words can still be intended as signs of love), and the line "By your side I would willingly storm the gates of the Dark City itself.
Do not doubt it.", despite what the VO says, can esily be a passionate declaration of love.

With that being said, the Love dialogue is so much better. Many, many thanks for creating the mod, ejoslin. As I said, I'm pretty happy with in-game version, but this one would give me something to dig for my next playthroughs. Thanks!

[TheComfyCat]

So I get home from class... and I see that ejoslin has made an EPIC mod to fix the gates dialogue!

Wow, ejoslin... you're (ridiculously) awesome!

Naturally, I immediately tried it out, and I must agree with what others have been saying... his line when you tell him you love him... <3:wub:<3:wub: huge squee! As you said, it's absolutely CRIMINAL that that line isn't in there. He looks sooo happy and bashful, and the VO is just perfect. Thanks again for the mod!

EDIT: Ah, I'm remiss! Thanks to Gilded Age, too! Good luck working on the kisses!

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 26 mars 2010 - 12:08 .

[SurrealSadi]

I had to make do watching Sannox's brief vid of it, but it is HUGE squee. Add in the kiss, and I think it might turn into squee overload

[Addai]

Aieeee, that is almost too much squee. Squee overload!!! Ejoslin, you are definitely hereby added to the canonization roster.



*goes to test on HNF*

[Addai]

LOL, ninja'ed on the phrase "squee overload." This thread is turning into mind meld. It's a little scary actually.



Zevran looking down shyly when you tell him you love him... aroo!

[TheComfyCat]

AndreaDraco wrote...

You're simply priceless, ejoslin. Priceless.

I must say that I'm glad that the Friendly dialogue can be so easily read as a Love dialogue (I never choose option with 'my friend', in it, for example, and Zevran's words can still be intended as signs of love), and the line "By your side I would willingly storm the gates of the Dark City itself. Do not doubt it.", despite what the VO says, can esily be a passionate declaration of love.

With that being said, the Love dialogue is so much better. Many, many thanks for creating the mod, ejoslin. As I said, I'm pretty happy with in-game version, but this one would give me something to dig for my next playthroughs. Thanks!

Indeed. The VO comment for the (romance) version of that line if you leave him behind:

Zevran: In truth, for the chance to be by your side I would storm the Dark City itself. Never doubt it. (an oath of love)

<3

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 26 mars 2010 - 12:19 .

[SurrealSadi]

Addai67 wrote...

LOL, ninja'ed on the phrase "squee overload." This thread is turning into mind meld. It's a little scary actually.

Zevran looking down shyly when you tell him you love him... aroo!

It just shows that us Zev-fanatics are all on the same page, at least the females.

That's just so adorable and sweet! You can tell he wants to say "I love you too" but he can't <3:wub:<3:wub:

[ejoslin]

Oh, absolutely. I always chose that line because it does sound like a declaration of love. It never even occurred to me that that dialog could be wrong!

Edit: Gah, if he feels that deeply for a friend, can you even begin to imagine how he feels for his lover?

Modifié par ejoslin, 26 mars 2010 - 12:24 .

[Addai]

Ok, tested at 100+ Friendly and it is the same bit I am used to getting for friendly... "So, let us go teach this archdemon a lesson. It should have stayed in whatever hole it crawled out of" with no dialogue choices.

Modifié par Addai67, 26 mars 2010 - 12:25 .

[Addai]

So... the Black City speech was really supposed to be what he says for Friend?!! That in itself is squee-licious, especially for me since I'm often around these parts declaring that Zevran does not want to leave a friended Warden.

[ejoslin]

Addai67 wrote...

Ok, tested at 100+ Friendly and it is the same bit I am used to getting for friendly... "So, let us go teach this archdemon a lesson. It should have stayed in whatever hole it crawled out of" with no dialogue choices.

Ok, good.  I will look into fixing that tomorrow.  Thank you for checking that for me!

[Addai]

Bashful Zevran, after being told the Warden loves him.




<3

[SurrealSadi]

That screenie is so squee-worthy! You just -know- how he feels with his reaction, that he feels the same but can't voice it. *squees happily*

[TheComfyCat]

*melts*

Such a great screenie!

<3<3<3

[ejoslin]

Addai67 wrote...

So... the Black City speech was really supposed to be what he says for Friend?!! That in itself is squee-licious, especially for me since I'm often around these parts declaring that Zevran does not want to leave a friended Warden.

Yes, you have been saying that, and have been totally proven right!  

[Addai]

Doesn't this make you want to replay every Zevran game? All of my Zev girls should have heard this!!! *goes back to give my city elf Esira a little present*