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[TheComfyCat]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

*snip*

yep Xander was most certainly not getting any nookie from her it seems (not that he wants it) and Loghain looks really...odd when he looks happy
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LOL thanks for all the screen shots... and that one with his, er, happy expression was definitely funny. He looks all awkward.

[sami jo]

WingsandRings wrote...

sami jo wrote...

@ejoslin: :wub::wub::wub::wub:

One more main quest for my first PC playthrough and then Landsmeet and battle and squeeage! 

My inexperience little mage-boy had the "licking the pole" talk with Allistair last night.  It was absolutely comical for him to be acting all experienced after having completely bungled asking Zev to the tent repeatedly, getting all bashful at the massage offer and only managing to haul Zev off to the tent after the poem.  It was worth torturing him to hear how amused Zev was when he told my mage that he knew where Zev slept if he changed his mind and commented on how he seemed to have heard this offer before when the poor mage would try to proposition him again. 

How do you bungle propositioning Zevran? Do you pick the wrong dialogue option or do you make him too low on approval or what?

I know I'm probably way behind again, but... if you pick the option to
order him to the tent he will make a joke about torturing him.  If you
tell him that wasn't quite what you had in mind, he will snicker at you
and tell you that you know where he sleeps if you change your mind, then
tease you when you ask him to the tent again.  There are a number of
other ways to bungle it, but that is the only one I know of that
actually nets you approval. 

Edit: because I do know where the quotes go.

Modifié par sami jo, 26 mars 2010 - 07:17 .

[Sannox]

I've played through all those 'bungling' options, because I think he's so cute when he refuses you. It's not exactly a refusal, because he still makes it clear he's up to it, but you do have to admit you're up for it too before he'll come to the tent. (I don't know why some people find him sleazy, because he's not pushy at all. He lets the warden take the lead.)

[sami jo]

I think the bungles are really pretty amusing too, and it absolutely fit with this character. He is about as experienced as Allistair, and since he is going after a guy, he has even fewer examples of what he should be doing. I can completely see Zevran being highly amused with the poor boy's confusion and frustration, but not solving it for him because my PC really needs to find the nerve to just come out with it or things could get ugly after. Zev sounds so amused when you ask him to the tent a second time after having bungled the first. Zev's "experience" is intimidating for the virginal young and oh so sheltered mage.

Now, my thoroughly smitten mage is making Allistair uncomfortable across Fereldon by kissing Zev every chance he gets.

[Sannox]

I haven't tried a sheltered mage. For some reason, I imagine the mages growing up in a hotbed of sexual frustration, and lots of illicit sex going on in cupboards and other secret places. I think that once when I bothered to talk to Wynne she mentioned something about them finding ways to have relationships. Some of them would have grown up very close, like brothers and sisters, so I do imagine there being plenty of crushes on non-mages. I'm surprised that the Jowan/Lily affair is a one-off. Maybe it isn't, and maybe that sort of thing happens all the time. So, so far, my mages have been sexually experienced.

[sami jo]

I'm not sure that a gay elf would come out of the Circle with much experience. the apprentice quarters hardly offered any privacy and as Irving's star pupil, he would have been a bit of a book worm. This is the first character I've RPed like this, and it's really been fun. It's one way to drag the romance out without fighting to keep his approval down. Zev's approval was over 80 without a single gift before my mage managed to get over himself and move beyond flirting.

[TheComfyCat]

Sannox wrote...

I haven't tried a sheltered mage. For some reason, I imagine the mages growing up in a hotbed of sexual frustration, and lots of illicit sex going on in cupboards and other secret places. I think that once when I bothered to talk to Wynne she mentioned something about them finding ways to have relationships. Some of them would have grown up very close, like brothers and sisters, so I do imagine there being plenty of crushes on non-mages. I'm surprised that the Jowan/Lily affair is a one-off. Maybe it isn't, and maybe that sort of thing happens all the time. So, so far, my mages have been sexually experienced.

lol for some reason I have the same vision of the Circle Tower... I mean, if Wynne has a kid, then I figure there's plenty of room for messing around up there.. definitely illicit cupboard affairs, as you mentioned, since the rooms seem to be dormitory style...

[Sabriana]

Good Morning my lovelies.



Ohh, a newer fix from Ejoslin. Well, nothing to be done but try that one out too. Ah, the sacrifices we make (hehehe). My amazon # 1 is the only save I have that's close enough to getting the speech, so the lucky girl will hear it again. I'm starting to feel sorry for my other PCs, who will never get to hear it. I feel guilty for not having saves for all of them.



My current mage (AW/BM) is really great, I like her so much better than my first one. She's one po'd mage, I tell you, but Zevran supplies a bit of balance. She hates the chantry, hates the tower, hates Wynne, and hates the templars with a passion. After hearing about the lyrium addiction from Alistair, she thinks that killing templars is a mercyful act. She might be right at that, you know.



I play her as being forcefully torn from her family (she tells Morrigan that she loves her mother, that gave me the reason to play it like this). She did not rat out Jowan, she'd rather cut out her tongue than be an accomplice to Irving/Greagoir. She would have gladly wiped out the whole tower, templars and mages alike in the quest. The only thing that saved the mages was her opinion that they had little choice, just as she had. Although she would have gladly slit Irving's throat after finding his journal.



<---- That's her, by the way. She's listed as a HN on my page here, she was build as one in the CharCreator, and I had to redo her when I started a new game. For some reason the toons revert to the default when I change their origin. Thank goodness I could rebuild her by using the same specs in the in-game builder.

[TheComfyCat]

Sabriana wrote...

Good Morning my lovelies.

Ohh, a newer fix from Ejoslin. Well, nothing to be done but try that one out too. Ah, the sacrifices we make (hehehe). My amazon # 1 is the only save I have that's close enough to getting the speech, so the lucky girl will hear it again. I'm starting to feel sorry for my other PCs, who will never get to hear it. I feel guilty for not having saves for all of them.

My current mage (AW/BM) is really great, I like her so much better than my first one. She's one po'd mage, I tell you, but Zevran supplies a bit of balance. She hates the chantry, hates the tower, hates Wynne, and hates the templars with a passion. After hearing about the lyrium addiction from Alistair, she thinks that killing templars is a mercyful act. She might be right at that, you know.

I play her as being forcefully torn from her family (she tells Morrigan that she loves her mother, that gave me the reason to play it like this). She did not rat out Jowan, she'd rather cut out her tongue than be an accomplice to Irving/Greagoir. She would have gladly wiped out the whole tower, templars and mages alike in the quest. The only thing that saved the mages was her opinion that they had little choice, just as she had. Although she would have gladly slit Irving's throat after finding his journal.

That sounds like a fun character, Sabriana

I just started a grumpy mage as well... it seems like mages have plenty of reason to be angry, given that they're trapped due to circumstances and pretty much their whole lives are controlled by others.

I wish you could play the origin story with an "I don't care if the rumors about you being a blood mage are true or not" attitude, but there really aren't any dialogue options to suggest that.

And ugh.. Irving's journal... hard not to hate him (especially as a mage) after reading that.

[SurrealSadi]

senorfuzzylips wrote...

Sabriana wrote...

Good Morning my lovelies.

Ohh, a newer fix from Ejoslin. Well, nothing to be done but try that one out too. Ah, the sacrifices we make (hehehe). My amazon # 1 is the only save I have that's close enough to getting the speech, so the lucky girl will hear it again. I'm starting to feel sorry for my other PCs, who will never get to hear it. I feel guilty for not having saves for all of them.

My current mage (AW/BM) is really great, I like her so much better than my first one. She's one po'd mage, I tell you, but Zevran supplies a bit of balance. She hates the chantry, hates the tower, hates Wynne, and hates the templars with a passion. After hearing about the lyrium addiction from Alistair, she thinks that killing templars is a mercyful act. She might be right at that, you know.

I play her as being forcefully torn from her family (she tells Morrigan that she loves her mother, that gave me the reason to play it like this). She did not rat out Jowan, she'd rather cut out her tongue than be an accomplice to Irving/Greagoir. She would have gladly wiped out the whole tower, templars and mages alike in the quest. The only thing that saved the mages was her opinion that they had little choice, just as she had. Although she would have gladly slit Irving's throat after finding his journal.

That sounds like a fun character, Sabriana

I just started a grumpy mage as well... it seems like mages have plenty of reason to be angry, given that they're trapped due to circumstances and pretty much their whole lives are controlled by others.

I wish you could play the origin story with an "I don't care if the rumors about you being a blood mage are true or not" attitude, but there really aren't any dialogue options to suggest that.

And ugh.. Irving's journal... hard not to hate him (especially as a mage) after reading that.

And they seem surprised that Uldred turns on them and becomes an abomination....

[Sabriana]

Heh, yeah she is Fuzzy. I wish I had developed her as a SH/BM though. The AW seems a bit useless. Ah well, more reason to play through yet again. I agree on the "I don't care if you are a blood mage" attitude. She wouldn't rat Jowan out for nothing. I wish she had the choice to also destroy her own phylactery too.

She ditched Wynne as soon as they were out of the fade, and she got to hear Zevran's plea. Of course she was swayed. How could she not?

I had the most strange glitch in this play-through in Redcliffe. She and her gang went to the living quarters to talk to demon-Connor, and the game glitched as if she had entered Eamon's room. So she ended up fighting the demon, and Isolde ended up killing her son. It was the first time I've seen that act, and it was heart-breaking, even for my angry mage.

Getting Zevran early on, I had my PC do the mage tower first, because I wanted to see the 'good' resolution. It was not to be. I thought about re-loading, but decided to let it stand.

*Lights a candle at the altar of Charsen and Ejoslin, as befitting for the Saints of Zevran*

Edited because that's par for the course in this thread.

I agree, Surreal. When my mage observed that nasty beyotch of a revered mother in Ostagar, she went into hatred overdrive. I so wish she could have slapped that nasty piece of chantry work.

Modifié par Sabriana, 26 mars 2010 - 09:23 .

[SurrealSadi]

I despised Uldred, I'm glad we get to kill him, but Zev's so good at swaying people poor Jaenelle might spare the mages...

[Sabriana]

SurrealSadi wrote...

I despised Uldred, I'm glad we get to kill him, but Zev's so good at swaying people poor Jaenelle might spare the mages...

Well, my mage despised what Uldred had become. But she was not surprised that there were so many Blood Mages around. It also reaffirmed her belief that the templars are useless tools, because it happened right under their noses. She let the BM go free, and surprisingly enough, Wynne didn't say a word.

And yes, Zevran is good at swaying people.

[SurrealSadi]

Sabriana wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

I despised Uldred, I'm glad we get to kill him, but Zev's so good at swaying people poor Jaenelle might spare the mages...

Well, my mage despised what Uldred had become. But she was not surprised that there were so many Blood Mages around. It also reaffirmed her belief that the templars are useless tools, because it happened right under their noses. She let the BM go free, and surprisingly enough, Wynne didn't say a word.

And yes, Zevran is good at swaying people.

Uldred was the one who marked potential blood mages. It's clear that he had been practicing Blood Magic under everyone's nose, except maybe Irving's, since he was the one used to determine who might turn to Blood Magic. And yes, the Templars were blind to not see it. My Wardens try to recruit that mage. Wynne objects then, but your Warden can shut her up easily enough.

That he is. He's nudged his way into Jae's heart, and she accepted his massage offer.

[Sabriana]

Oh, I agree, Surreal. I meant what he became due to the treatment the mages have to endure. He became a snitch/traitor to the other mages, a BM 'trainer', and later on he became a powerful abomination. Sorry for being vague



You can try to recruit the mage? I have to try that one, I must've overlooked the obvious once again. I usually just let her go. I love getting on Wynne's case.

[SurrealSadi]

Tis alright.

Aye, you have to follow a specific conversation line to get it. I just can't remember what line it is...Edit: Recuit her to fight in the final battle, not with you in general(sorry that I didn't make that clear).

I'm looking for bows for my DNF, and I keep seeing one in the wiki and cannot for the life of me figure out where it is in game...

Modifié par SurrealSadi, 26 mars 2010 - 10:37 .

[ejoslin]

For toolset users, party_barks has the comments you get occasionally in the game. I love this stuff!

Edit: I do remember recruiting a blood mage on my blood mage.  I don't remember Wynne having a reaction, but that doesn't mean much!

Modifié par ejoslin, 26 mars 2010 - 11:11 .

[SurrealSadi]

Ooh, Morning Ejoslin!

Edit: Yeah, it's the one who talks to you after the fight on the 2nd floor. If you follow the right dialogue, you can convince her to fight with you in the final battle. She protests, saying she's a blood mage, and you can say that it just means she can kill Darkspawn quicker. Wynne b*tches, and you can basically tell her off, that GWs do whatever is necessary to win.

Modifié par SurrealSadi, 26 mars 2010 - 11:14 .

[Creature 1]

Sannox wrote...

I haven't tried a sheltered mage. For some reason, I imagine the mages growing up in a hotbed of sexual frustration, and lots of illicit sex going on in cupboards and other secret places. I think that once when I bothered to talk to Wynne she mentioned something about them finding ways to have relationships. Some of them would have grown up very close, like brothers and sisters, so I do imagine there being plenty of crushes on non-mages. I'm surprised that the Jowan/Lily affair is a one-off. Maybe it isn't, and maybe that sort of thing happens all the time. So, so far, my mages have been sexually experienced.

I don't mean sheltered in that sense, I think more they'd have no clue about how to deal with strangers.  Thus the incompetence in attempting to seduce Zevran. 

I would bet there was an awful lot of hanky-panky in the Tower.  It would get dreadfully boring being locked up there your entire life.  

[Creature 1]

sami jo wrote...

I'm not sure that a gay elf would come out of the Circle with much experience. the apprentice quarters hardly offered any privacy and as Irving's star pupil, he would have been a bit of a book worm. This is the first character I've RPed like this, and it's really been fun. It's one way to drag the romance out without fighting to keep his approval down. Zev's approval was over 80 without a single gift before my mage managed to get over himself and move beyond flirting.

In my imagination the Templars try to keep the apprentices from having too much fun, but the mages have free rein. 

[SurrealSadi]

*snicker* Morrigan's reaction to being told she's going with the Wardens is great. *ish playing her DNF*



Oh, I'm sure the Templars are joining in on some of the fun... Look at Cullen and his stammering reaction to the female Mage.

[Sabriana]

The templars, their brainwashed attitude and lyrium addled brains are about the only reason I applaud that there are no doors to the individual rooms and that the apprentices live in dorms 'packed in like crates'.

Rape is fueled by a lust for power and showing disdain for the victim. I'm sure the templars would find it quite entertaining to force themselves on the unwilling, non-consenting, and oppressed mages - male and female alike.

[jenovan]

SurrealSadi wrote...

I'm looking for bows for my DNF, and I keep seeing one in the wiki and cannot for the life of me figure out where it is in game...

What bow is it?

(getting ready to head to work, but I imagine someone will have a thought on where it might be before I get back ;D)

senorfuzzylips wrote...

Sannox wrote...

I
haven't tried a sheltered mage. For some reason, I imagine the mages growing up in a hotbed of sexual  frustration, and lots of illicit sex going on in cupboards and other secret places. I think that once when I bothered to talk to Wynne she mentioned something about them finding ways to have relationships. Some of them would have grown up very close, like brothers and sisters, so I do imagine there being plenty of crushes on non-mages. I'm surprised that the Jowan/Lily affair is a one-off. Maybe it isn't, and maybe that sort of thing happens all the time. So, so far, my mages have been sexually experienced.

lol
for some reason I have the same vision of the Circle Tower... I mean, if Wynne has a kid, then I figure there's plenty of room for messing around up there.. definitely illicit cupboard affairs, as you mentioned, since the rooms seem to be dormitory style...

Yeah, I think my thoughts tend to run the same way...   Heh, my (male human) mage was (and still is) a bit of a libertine (and also a bit of a prankster -- flirting with templars just to make them upset was a fun, if dangerous, diversion), and early on, is pleased to have both Morrigan and Zevran around.  Those tents don't keep warm by themselves and all.

Modifié par jenovan, 26 mars 2010 - 11:45 .

[SurrealSadi]

jenovan wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

I'm looking for bows for my DNF, and I keep seeing one in the wiki and cannot for the life of me figure out where it is in game...

What bow is it?

(getting ready to head to work, but I imagine someone will have a thought on where it might be before I get back ;D)

-snip-

Bow of the Golden Sun. Not that I plan to use it,  but I've never run into it.

[SurrealSadi]

Sabriana wrote...

The templars, their brainwashed attitude and lyrium addled brains are about the only reason I applaud that there are no doors to the individual rooms and that the apprentices live in dorms 'packed in like crates'.

Rape is fueled by a lust for power and showing disdain for the victim. I'm sure the templars would find it quite entertaining to force themselves on the unwilling, non-consenting, and oppressed mages - male and female alike.

Some of the Templars do seem to care. Cullen, before he's tortured by the Blood Mages for one. Gregoir(sp) I think cared at one point, but tedium has made him apathetic.