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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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#12401
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Darkannex wrote...

And awww - I missed the quasi-troll. *tsk*

There is no statute of limitations on mocking trolls.  Have at it, my friend.  :devil:

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Also, if Zevran is at "adore" she talks about the knowing glances Zevran throws at the warden. So someone's been seeing those looks quite a bit earlier than Wynne.




I get that conversation I have screenshots of it also got this nasty glitch where if I select a certain option(I think its the no you cant have him option) the dialogue will loop until I pick something else)

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Cuddlezarro wrote...
this is how the Cammen questline ended with Xander

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Very nice. xD

I just saw the 'the state of gamers' thread, that guy is a real idiot. For some reason he truly believes this thread is 500 pages Zevran stuff, I'm pretty sure almost 150 pages are about other things. Not to mention that a lot of posts are just screenies and mod stuff. And it is not like we are complaining a lot about the no-Zevran-in-Awakening, we did that for 2 pages then we went back to Zevran in origins. Some people...

About the US and Ali-sacrifice ending, I did those... actually I got all 3 (Logahin sacrifice) in one hour. I played 3 playthroughs (same character) till the last flour of Fort Dracon and then I did all endings. In the right way, so the best ended last. That way I survived it. Image IPB

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Also, if Zevran is at "adore" she talks about the knowing glances Zevran throws at the warden. So someone's been seeing those looks quite a bit earlier than Wynne.


I get that conversation I have screenshots of it also got this nasty glitch where if I select a certain option(I think its the no you cant have him option) the dialogue will loop until I pick something else)


There are two.  The one which you have when she is at friendly has that nasty bug in it -- that is for both male and female.  The one she has when romancing the warden doesn't look like it has a bug.  But in the femwarden variant of the care+ one, she says she understands what the warden sees in him.

Leliana: I didn't realize you were at all attracted to him. I thought we... (IF PC IS FEMALE)
Warden: You haven't felt at all drawn to him?
Leliana: I have to admit he does have something about him. But there are always people who will catch your eye... the important thing is whether... whether they capture your heart. (Upset, a little sad.)
Leliana: Oh, Maker. I... I don't know what I'm saying.
Warden: Eye, heart... it doesn't matter. He's fun.
Leliana: Fun? I know Zevran seeks pleasure and not a bond of friendship or... or anything else, but you...
Leliana: Is this how you treat people? As... playthings?
Warden: You were a spy. You've done the same.
Leliana: What I've done has... has nothing to do with this! Ugh. Why do I always get myself into these conversations? (Angry, defensive.)

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Warden: You were a spy. You've done the same.




WOW thats so totally nasty I wish Xander was given *that* option because I would have taken it (granted he doesnt think of Zevran as a playing but at the moment in time friend with benifits)



I also like telling her that no Zevran isnt Xanders elven sex slave

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However, you CAN have the femwarden conversation go THIS way (if you're RP'ing a real relationship instead of a fling)

Leliana: I... happened to be speaking with Zevran yesterday. (Trying to broach a delicate subject.)
Leliana: He tells me you two have been... intimate. I... I don't know what to think. (A little shocked, not sure how to talk about this.)
Leliana: I didn't realize you were at all attracted to him. I thought we... (IF PC IS FEMALE)
Warden: I don't see why this is any of your business.
Leliana: It is my business because... because we... we work together? We need to rely on each other and... and perhaps honesty is necessary here.
Warden: I like Zevran. A lot.
Leliana: Oh. Well, I suppose I can see why. I just... never mind.
Leliana: I... I think I made a mistake about you. It... it's not your fault. I'm sorry. (Apologizing and trying to get out of an awkward sitation.)
Leliana: Shall we forget I ever brought this up? I... I think this would be best.

Edit: Yes, I ALWAYS tell Leliana that Zevran isn't her slave so DON'T get any ideas!

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is it wrong for me to take great joy in pissing off the annoying french girl?

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Also, if Zevran is at "adore" she talks about the knowing glances Zevran throws at the warden. So someone's been seeing those looks quite a bit earlier than Wynne.


I get that conversation I have screenshots of it also got this nasty glitch where if I select a certain option(I think its the no you cant have him option) the dialogue will loop until I pick something else)



I noticed that loop in the conversation with Leliana and a fem warden, also.  It started after the last version of Dialogue Tweaks.  It was reported on the DT discussion, on Nexus, but she quit updating the mod before it was fixed.  Perhaps one of our other wonderful modders here could fix that particular bug?  I for one would love to be able to tell Leliana that particular line of dialogue. 

*edited to add:  Not sure if the bug is in the vanilla game or not, but I only noticed it after installing the last version of DT.

Modifié par Eislyn, 27 mars 2010 - 06:31 .


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Eislyn wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Also, if Zevran is at "adore" she talks about the knowing glances Zevran throws at the warden. So someone's been seeing those looks quite a bit earlier than Wynne.


I get that conversation I have screenshots of it also got this nasty glitch where if I select a certain option(I think its the no you cant have him option) the dialogue will loop until I pick something else)



I noticed that loop in the conversation with Leliana and a fem warden, also.  It started after the last version of Dialogue Tweaks.  It was reported on the DT discussion, on Nexus, but she quit updating the mod before it was fixed.  Perhaps one of our other wonderful modders here could fix that particular bug?  I for one would love to be able to tell Leliana that particular line of dialogue. 

*edited to add:  Not sure if the bug is in the vanilla game or not, but I only noticed it after installing the last version of DT.

It's a quick change, very easy to make, but it will interfere with any other mod that messes with her dialog.  It's not because of Dialog Tweaks.  It's a problem with the code.

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that wouldent bother me since well i cant stand the girl why would I want MORE dialogue with her?

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

that wouldent bother me since well i cant stand the girl why would I want MORE dialogue with her?


Because I'd like to be able to tell her to keep her mits off Zev!  ;)

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

that wouldent bother me since well i cant stand the girl why would I want MORE dialogue with her?


Ok, I made it.  Hmmmm. Actually, I will make a DT compatible version, if I can get that to load properly.

Edit: I've been having problems getting the DT B2B to load for me for some reason.

Modifié par ejoslin, 27 mars 2010 - 06:36 .


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Good evening good people!
I stayed in the hotel with very crappy Internet for last 3 days, so I couldn't post, but at least I was able to read. SO much awesomeness! Ejoslin, I shall raise a glass to you tonight. I thought Zevran's talk at the gates was awesome as it was, yet there's more! Plus, he'd storm the gates of the Dark City with his friend :wub: I wish we could actually get this talk at 'friendly' instead of his 'warm' dialog.

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ejoslin wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

that wouldent bother me since well i cant stand the girl why would I want MORE dialogue with her?


Ok, I made it.  Hmmmm. Actually, I will make a DT compatible version, if I can get that to load properly.

Edit: I've been having problems getting the DT B2B to load for me for some reason.



Awesome, ejoslin!  A DT compatible would be great, if you can do it! 

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here are some more Xander squeenies



heres Xander trying to do a brofist with a genlock

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Super Saijin star sapphire Xander! (sorry for the green lantern/DBZ referance)

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Eislyn wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

that wouldent bother me since well i cant stand the girl why would I want MORE dialogue with her?


Because I'd like to be able to tell her to keep her mits off Zev!  ;)


*Applauds*

But isn't there another conversation path were the Warden can tell Leliana to keep her fingers to herself? Or am I thinking of the "your Zevran" tree? I'm not sure, but my Warden always tells Leliana that Zevran is not "hers" in any way, shape, or form.

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your thinking of the your zevran conversation

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Ok, I finally figured out how to get the DT stuff loaded. CZ, I'm going to TRY to change the kiss for the dwarves, but because of my bug with the toolset itself, I'm not sure I'll be able to. But I'll keep you informed. Off to work on Leliana!

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Hmmm, does anyone prefer Leliana to end the conversation with, "Ha, I can tell..." or nothing at all?

I'm not bothering making one that isn't DT compatible.  If someone wants it, you can ask, but right now, the file I'm working with is converted over to DT and I like things staying clean (but not so clean that I didn't create a new module. GAH).

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ejoslin wrote...

Ok, I finally figured out how to get the DT stuff loaded. CZ, I'm going to TRY to change the kiss for the dwarves, but because of my bug with the toolset itself, I'm not sure I'll be able to. But I'll keep you informed. Off to work on Leliana!


I think Charsens been thinking about fixing that but hes been rather busy with other stuff

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ejoslin wrote...

Hmmm, does anyone prefer Leliana to end the conversation with, "Ha, I can tell..." or nothing at all?

I'm not bothering making one that isn't DT compatible.  If someone wants it, you can ask, but right now, the file I'm working with is converted over to DT and I like things staying clean (but not so clean that I didn't create a new module. GAH).



EIther one is fine with me, ejoslin.  . 

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 Here is the fix to the Leliana dialog.  It's DT compatible.  I wont' make a non-dt compatible one unless requested.

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Ok, I finally figured out how to get the DT stuff loaded. CZ, I'm going to TRY to change the kiss for the dwarves, but because of my bug with the toolset itself, I'm not sure I'll be able to. But I'll keep you informed. Off to work on Leliana!


I think Charsens been thinking about fixing that but hes been rather busy with other stuff


The main problem with it is he talks during it.  I'll see if that actually makes a difference.

Edit: I take it back.  It's a bit more complex than that.  But I'll try to figure it out!

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#12424
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WOW so I was taking the Xander and Alistair shag pictures I promised last night and WOW I completely forgot I had BSC installed still Ill upload them after I do the vanilla cutscenes

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Sabriana wrote...

Wait, what? There is actually a line that goes "dear maker don't tell anyone else."? I don't know what to say to that. For some reason I find that..., well, it bothers me somehow. There is something wrong with all four, actually, I just can't put my finger on it. Are they implying that the warden never had m/m relationships? Or am I just still blinded by Lel popping right into my face.


To me, what is really odd is that "Dear maker don't tell anyone" is a reply that means your PC is at the very least "in the closet", if not simply of weak character or even a hypocrite. The last one is very harsh and since I'm heterosexual I cannot claim for myself that I'd be any more brave than that, so just ignore that. I'm not one to talk. But really? All those replies imply that your Character is NOT gay. You don't get to be gay and proud of it, that's what's wrong. Either you're bisexual, bicurious or very, very deep in the closet to either plead with her or even lie. Something clearly went wrong there. <_<

@ Kaioku
You will enjoy the dialogues, and the VO comments for Zevran, I can almost guarantee that.


Say no more, I do, very much so. :wub: Took my long enough to find out where to look for the relevant stuff though... was in the wrong module at first. I've just looked through all the Zev-post-coronation scripts... *squee* <3
What is odd though, according to the toolset you should be able to interact with Dog (click on him and he gives you the happy bark, that's all), while in reality he isn't even acknowledged by hitting tab. Another bug, I guess. ._.

I so hope that the treatment Zevran had to endure through the DLC and Awakening is just laziness. Several other NPCs were also pullled OOC, and that's where I hang my hat of hope on.


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