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[TheComfyCat]

Oooh... looks awesome, Charsen

[soulsweeper87]

Charsen never ceases to amaze . I can't wait for that mod.
I think I'm done playing DAO for a while and instead it's time to pick up drawing again. I hope I'll have some fanarts to share very soon.

[Sabriana]

Yay for Soulsweeper.

I'll be cheering you on. I'm not a talented visual artist creator, but I love viewing other peoples creations. I do draw lovely stick-figures though.

[Sannox]

Charsen wrote...
This scene is 10 seconds long, and is supposed to be a tender, clothes-on scene. I will probably adjust it for the other PC races & genders at a later time.

 

Those are really lovely .

[Kaioku]

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

*snicker*

I have heard that banter, and that compared to RtO makes me wonder if that Fade Spirit she's got has a thing for former Templars.... Or just Alistair.

Popping sweet chantry cherries


Do not be afraid of the link...it comes to a hilarious Dragon Age based video

Ahahahahahaha... The only thing I had to do was turn off the sound (since I'm German) - and then I happily snorted scrambled eggs all over my screen. x) Why thank you for that. ;P

[ejoslin]

I think the following two lines contradict each other.

Zevran: I suspect Alistair, however, would not feel the same way. If there is to be something between you and I, to string him along would only hurt him deeply. Surely you know this is true. (uncomfortable)

Zevran: And what would you have me do, then? I am many things: A murderer, a thief, a lover... but I am no cheat. If whatever is between us cannot be honest, let it not be at all. (uncomfortable)

In the first one, he's assuming he's the main interest and that she is leading Alistair on, the second makes it sound like he would be the one on the side.

What I find most telling is he will force the choice even if you haven't slept with either one (as all the love interests will).  This is not a sexual jealousy, but it is a jealousy of a different nature; he does not want to share the warden's affection.  Does he say it's about the other person? Sure he does.  Even when he finally realizes he's in love with the warden, he can't say so.  He does adore the warden at that point.  He won't let the warden to continue to treat it as if it's casual, whether casual sex or casual flirting.  It's more now.

He doesn't put his feelings out there, probably because what he wants has never been a consideration for him.  He takes things as they come and makes the best of whatever comes rather than hoping for something more just to be disappointed.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 mars 2010 - 03:32 .

[jenovan]

Ooooh, Charsen, I can't wait to see ... whatever that all is... complete! :3

RE: companion jealousy, I agree with the idea that Zevran is emotionally invested once he hits "Adore".  He may put the "rival" first, insisting that he's worried about their feelings, but I think there's definitely some element of his own jealousy there at that point, even if he doesn't realize it or want to acknowledge it.

On top of that, I have the feeling that he expects to be the second choice.    Maybe because of previous affairs like with Isabela, where he was an outsider, a third party... where the rival would have had more of a "claim"... but his polite deference comes off like he expects to be put aside, to me.    (So, of course, reassuring him after that is always lovely. ;D)

*rereads* I hope that makes sense, the coffee is still settling in. XD

[ejoslin]

Another interesting part of that conversation (which I usually miss and wasn't transcribed)

Zevran: I suspect Alistair, however, would not feel the same way. If there is to be something between you and I, to string him along would only hurt him deeply. Surely you know this is true. (uncomfortable)
Warden:I suppose you're right.
Zevran: Then only one path lies before us, no? (said with a sigh of resignation)

One path? He was completely expecting to be dumped.

As far as him calling himself a cheat -- he acknowledges both he and Alistair have feelings for the warden, and expects the warden to choose Alistair. That would make him the one on the side. But again, this is not sexual jealousy -- it's not necessary that they have had sex.

Edit: In the "only one path" dialog, the facial expression is "sad."

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 mars 2010 - 04:26 .

[TripLight]

ejoslin wrote...

Another interesting part of that conversation (which I usually miss and wasn't transcribed)

Zevran: I suspect Alistair, however, would not feel the same way. If there is to be something between you and I, to string him along would only hurt him deeply. Surely you know this is true. (uncomfortable)
Warden:I suppose you're right.
Zevran: Then only one path lies before us, no? (said with a sigh of resignation)

One path? He was completely expecting to be dumped.

As far as him calling himself a cheat -- he acknowledges both he and Alistair have feelings for the warden, and expects the warden to choose Alistair. That would make him the one on the side. But again, this is not sexual jealousy -- it's not necessary that they have had sex.

Edit: In the "only one path" dialog, the facial expression is "sad."

Oh lord, the first time I ever got those conversations, Zevran's expressions broke my heart. Poor guy always thinks that good things happen to other people, so he is doesn't expect to be given anything more then a taste.

[Cuddlezarro]

afternoon peeps... Im a naught boy and ended up oversleeping by about 2 hours >_<



also i was making a new mage to test all these new mods out...the first looked far to like charsen for my liking and the second which i loved had the game crash on me before I could save him >_<

[ejoslin]

TripLight wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Another interesting part of that conversation (which I usually miss and wasn't transcribed)

Zevran: I suspect Alistair, however, would not feel the same way. If there is to be something between you and I, to string him along would only hurt him deeply. Surely you know this is true. (uncomfortable)
Warden:I suppose you're right.
Zevran: Then only one path lies before us, no? (said with a sigh of resignation)

One path? He was completely expecting to be dumped.

As far as him calling himself a cheat -- he acknowledges both he and Alistair have feelings for the warden, and expects the warden to choose Alistair. That would make him the one on the side. But again, this is not sexual jealousy -- it's not necessary that they have had sex.

Edit: In the "only one path" dialog, the facial expression is "sad."

Oh lord, the first time I ever got those conversations, Zevran's expressions broke my heart. Poor guy always thinks that good things happen to other people, so he is doesn't expect to be given anything more then a taste.

He sure doesn't.  It also casts a lot of what he says there in a different light.  His making no claims on her, his saying it's all about the other person -- someone who is expecting to be dumped is permitted to walk away with some self respect. If it really were about Alistair, he wouldn't be willing to have sex with the warden even with Alistair at 100 love (as long as he's 70 care or below). If he really made no claims on her, he wouldn't force her to make a choice.  So why would he force the choice if he expected to be dumped?  The only thing that makes sense is he can't stand seeing her in a relationship with Alistair when he also cares deeply.  Which means, well, some level of jealousy.

Edit: afternoon CZ.

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 mars 2010 - 05:44 .

[Ramante]

Finished the Deep Roads with my human mage, lost 1 point approval with Zevran for destroying the Anvil. Not a big deal, at that point, but now it is.

I went to Haven picked up the small silver bar and Zev's boots.. his approval is 70. I want that massage talk, but I have nothing to talk about and have no more specific gifts... Now I think about it, I think I'll give him Wynne's stuff. Never mind me, problem solved.



I was wondering, ejoslin you get VO comments by the party banters? I had one with Shale and Zevran, in which Zevran says that the Warden is a person whorty of adoration or something like that. I was wondering if that is completly 'amused' or that he really believes it. For some reason I think he actually means it, but it might be he is just messing with Shale.

It is the banter which starts with Shale wondering why the Warden didn't crush Zevran after he tried to kill her.

[ejoslin]

Ramante wrote...

Finished the Deep Roads with my human mage, lost 1 point approval with Zevran for destroying the Anvil. Not a big deal, at that point, but now it is.
I went to Haven picked up the small silver bar and Zev's boots.. his approval is 70. I want that massage talk, but I have nothing to talk about and have no more specific gifts... Now I think about it, I think I'll give him Wynne's stuff. Never mind me, problem solved.

I was wondering, ejoslin you get VO comments by the party banters? I had one with Shale and Zevran, in which Zevran says that the Warden is a person whorty of adoration or something like that. I was wondering if that is completly 'amused' or that he really believes it. For some reason I think he actually means it, but it might be he is just messing with Shale.
It is the banter which starts with Shale wondering why the Warden didn't crush Zevran after he tried to kill her.

Unfortunately, that particular conversation doesn't have VO comments (though a lot do).  Of course, in order to get the warden comment, you can't have Alistair, Morrigan, Wynne, or Leliana in your party.  It goes in this order:

Morrigan
Look at the witch. Dark hair, heaving chest, quivering lips. How could one kill such a creature without bedding it, first?

Leliana
Take the innocent sister, for example. Certainly even you can see the naughty woman waiting to escape from that Chantry frock?

Alistair
Here, take that templar fellow. Rugged good looks, quick wit, manly shoulders. Just getting him to hop borders is a challenge worthy of the great heroes.

Wynne
Take a peek at that Circle mage. Must we speak of the allure of an older woman? She has lessons to teach us all, my friend.

the Warden
Take a long look at our Grey Warden, my good friend. Right there we have an object worthy of worship, no?

Edit: Does he mean it about the Warden?  It really would depend I would imagine.  The rest, he's obviously teasing, but if he's in a romance with the Warden, why not have his answer be serious.  But if they're just friends, he would be teasing him/her as well.  

For instance, you know he doesn't think Leliana is innocent, and he doesn't think Alistair has a quick wit.

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 mars 2010 - 06:06 .

[Darkannex]

Hm. Anyone know of a way to 'force' the zev ambush to happen? I think I goofed with the Zevasap mod being enabled on a save post lothering. And now the event is not happening at all even when it normally would.

[Ramante]

ejoslin wrote...

Ramante wrote...
I was wondering, ejoslin you get VO comments by the party banters? I had one with Shale and Zevran, in which Zevran says that the Warden is a person whorty of adoration or something like that. I was wondering if that is completly 'amused' or that he really believes it. For some reason I think he actually means it, but it might be he is just messing with Shale.
It is the banter which starts with Shale wondering why the Warden didn't crush Zevran after he tried to kill her.

Unfortunately, that particular conversation doesn't have VO comments (though a lot do).  Of course, in order to get the warden comment, you can't have Alistair, Morrigan, Wynne, or Leliana in your party.  It goes in this order:

the Warden
Take a long look at our Grey Warden, my good friend. Right there we have an object worthy of worship, no?

Such a shame...

Thanks for looking.

[ejoslin]

Darkannex wrote...

Hm. Anyone know of a way to 'force' the zev ambush to happen? I think I goofed with the Zevasap mod being enabled on a save post lothering. And now the event is not happening at all even when it normally would.

Do you know how to use the console?  MorGothic explained how to force the encounter awhile back (eeep, I know, not helpful) using the console.

[Darkannex]

No. I guess Im bulloxed. Argh >.< This would be why I never get a romance with Zev going. Something always screws up either with me or the game.

[Ramante]

Darkannex wrote...

No. I guess Im bulloxed. Argh >.< This would be why I never get a romance with Zev going. Something always screws up either with me or the game.

Remove the mod, get Zevran and install the mod again. o.o'

No idea if it will work, but it sounds good.

[MorGothic]

Darkannex wrote...

Hm. Anyone know of a way to 'force' the zev ambush to happen? I think I goofed with the Zevasap mod being enabled on a save post lothering. And now the event is not happening at all even when it normally would.

I do, it was in the ZevRomance FAQ, but it appears somebody removed it...<_<

First you need to enable the console.

Instructions are here

Make sure you have a full party.

open the console and type: runscript zz_ran_debug and press enter.

Now click Plot then Zevran and you will be taken to the ambush.

(Is bad I didn't have to check any of that?)

*Edit*

Does anyone know where in the toolset I find the City Gate Companion cutscenes?

Modifié par MorGothic, 28 mars 2010 - 06:16 .

[Charsen]

If you haven't done more than 1 world event (like completing redcliffe or the dalish or the mage tower) then just uninstall zevranASAP and it should revert back to giving you zevran after the 2nd world event completes
--or use MorGothic's instructions =)

btw thanks guys, i will post more screenshots tonight. i have to figure out how & where to script the current scene. still rolling that around in my head..

edit: party_events for the gate scenes MorGothic 

Modifié par Charsen, 28 mars 2010 - 06:21 .

[Eislyn]

Darkannex wrote...

Hm. Anyone know of a way to 'force' the zev ambush to happen? I think I goofed with the Zevasap mod being enabled on a save post lothering. And now the event is not happening at all even when it normally would.

Load a Saved game.

Make a new save (this is the one you will use for the console command).

Go to a point on the world map. 

Bring up the console ( http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Console)

Type:  runscript zz_ran_debug

Press Enter

This brings up the Random Events Debugger.

Select Plot.

Select Zevran

Appear at Start of Encounter.


Do not do this from camp, or you will end up in the encounter alone.  Do this from a point on the World Map.


If later in the game you end up in the area of the encounter again, with no exit out:

Type:  runscript zz_jump-around

This ports you to the exit point.

I hope this was clear enough to understand.  Any questions, just let me know. 


*edit*  Ninja'ed 

Modifié par Eislyn, 28 mars 2010 - 06:23 .

[TripLight]

I've got a question about Zevran and Loghain. I plan on waiting on all the DLC, besides getting Shale, until after I spare Loghain on my CEF play-through. Do both have cut-scenes that would cancel each other out, or make comments in the same line?

**Goes back trying to make an Attractive Male Dalish Elf to romance Morrigan and Leliana. And is getting ticked off that her achievements are updating but no new characters are uploading to her profile ><..

Modifié par TripLight, 28 mars 2010 - 06:26 .

[Ramante]

Charsen wrote...
btw thanks guys, i will post more screenshots tonight. i have to figure out how & where to script the current scene. still rolling that around in my head..

Any chance it can be origin specific or is that a terrible question? xD
It would make a lot of sense (to me) if such a sweet scene would take place for a Dalish Elf after the Shriek/Tamlen encounter in camp. It would make less sense for other origins, but it might be a good point in the game to do it. Some sort of reassuring signal from Zevran that everything is allright even after the camp just got attacked. o.o'

No idea about other origins, but this seemed fitting for a Dalish Elf...

Edit: because I can.

Modifié par Ramante, 28 mars 2010 - 06:26 .

[Charsen]

Triplight - This might help with the avatar images if you have any errors in your diagnostics. otherwise, remove your chest piece, close inventory, open inventory and add chest piece, then make a fresh save. it only updates on a fresh save and only a few times a day. if you check your "what's new" page and see other people upload avatars, that's often a push time.



Ramante - maybe, i haven't had that encounter yet so i will have to check it out. =) it is just as easy to set it up to trigger for an origin as it is anything else though.

[ejoslin]

Charsen, is there a way to remove Zevran walking away at the city gates? Do you know? (yes, I'm still fighting with this scene -- I want to get the kiss in!).

Edit: Not that I've even managed to get the kiss in yet!  I get the warden in Zevran's spot, kissing the air!  grrrrrr!

Modifié par ejoslin, 28 mars 2010 - 06:38 .