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[sami jo]

Nonvita wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

*has an entire jumbo box full of
ramen in the spare bedroom*

*has a whole package of ramen stolen from a club event where they thought it could substitute for yakisoba noodles then found out they were wrong*

Yay free food!

And all this talk of ramen makes me want to go back to Japan. =(

No kidding!  Sashimi!  Rice!  I am so hungry  

[sami jo]

Tellervo wrote...

sami jo wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Eating mousse without utensils... loads of fun.  Interpret as you like.

Indeed!

Unless its a whole batch.  There is no such a thing as too much of a good thing.

Corrected that for you.

There is always a use for the extra.

[sami jo]

@Charsen: That's what happens when you let Loghain in on the fun.

[Charsen]

Yes Loghain could use some cheering up =)



To help you guys recover from the horrible Outtakes, here is the version of Zev + EM.



*NSFW* (you should probably always assume this unless i saw SFW)



Zev + EM1

Zev + EM2

Zev + EM3

[Nonvita]

Nice! Recovered now!

Edit: Night night everyone! Hey wait a second, isn't it like 2-3am for you people? Go to bed!

Modifié par Nonvita, 30 mars 2010 - 07:02 .

[SurrealSadi]

Nonvita wrote...

Nice! Recovered now!

Edit: Night night everyone! Hey wait a second, isn't it like 2-3am for you people? Go to bed!

3am for me, but I woke up at 6pm last night <.< so I won't be sleepy for another several hours. Besides, I'm taking Katsin(CEF Archer) through the Circle. Wanna get that done before I pass out for the day.

Much better than face-melting Loghain, Charsen.

[Tellervo]

sami jo wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

sami jo wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

Eating mousse without utensils... loads of fun.  Interpret as you like.

Indeed!

Unless its a whole batch.  There is no such a thing as too much of a good thing.

Corrected that for you.

There is always a use for the extra.

Okay, I cook in military quantities.  And lack a small army to take full advantage of such a thing with.

[Minaleth]

 I see you have been very naughty tonight :3
(And some things cannot be unseen ... note to self: do not click everything, especially think twice if clicking Charsen's screens is wise, lol)

@ soignee, Kaioku: Where is that fanart of yours? *wants to see soooo much* (Mine is in album here.)

@ Sannox: I am still with you about the erring offer, I see it the same way as you do.

Edit: And the food conversation! Yay, I love food and cooking and baking!

Modifié par Minaleth, 30 mars 2010 - 07:23 .

[SurrealSadi]

*wavies to Minaleth* Yes, do not click everything Charsen posts tonight. Face-melting Loghain and Zev are not things one wishes to see

[Minaleth]

Lol, yes I have to tame my curiosity, today it's not safe here to click

[SurrealSadi]

At least Charsen gives a little warning to what he is posting. Safer than some of Cuddle's NSFW shots.

[Sabriana]

Good morning all and yonder.



I brought my laptop to work, and it's a good thing I did. I..., I don't really know what to say. I'm still snickering, just thinking about the pics. (while hearing George Takai, thank you very much, pfeh)

Nice recovery though. Charsen, you are priceless.



Andrea's signature line also had me laugh. I'm even thinking of stealing it. I have to stroll around and see if other people sport it too. Is that in response to the "Grande Announcement"?

[SurrealSadi]

Morning Sabriana!



Yes, those pics are great.



And most likely. My own status shows my displeasure for this "announcement." I could participate(US citizen), but I flarking HATE Twitter.

[Sresla]

Charsen wrote...

To help you guys recover from the horrible Outtakes, here is the version of Zev + EM.

I declare the mod finished now. No need to work on it further - impliment ASAP, k thx.

[SurrealSadi]

Okay, question for Archer players out there. If you were not aware of how to get the Far Song before completing Redcliffe, what is the next best Longbow to use?

[Sabriana]

There is a pretty good one you can get off the elven slaver, Surreal. My archers use either Falon Din or the Mages Eye, and I've had no problems with them being quite effective with them.

[SurrealSadi]

Okay, Bow of the Golden Sun(elf slaver), Falon'Din or Mage's Eye. Okies. Katsin's got Mage's Eye on right now. Does pretty well, but that should just be her Dex...

[Charsen]

Sresla wrote...

Charsen wrote...

To help you guys recover from the horrible Outtakes, here is the version of Zev + EM.

I declare the mod finished now. No need to work on it further - impliment ASAP, k thx.

aww so i shouldn't do the next scenes? i just figured out how to do a very nice thrusting anim, and am working on modifying a punch... repeatedly... and in very quick cycles.... 
:innocent:

[Sresla]

Charsen wrote...

aww so i shouldn't do the next scenes? i just figured out how to do a very nice thrusting anim, and am working on modifying a punch... repeatedly... and in very quick cycles....  :innocent:

Oh? Now the anticipation is going to kill me. Thank you very much for that.

[Sannox]

ejoslin wrote...

Hmmm, he doesn't answer that if you choose, "You'd better not leave, I'd be sorely put out."  He laughs and says, "I'd better stay then, lest the consequences become unseemly."  And he obviously likes that answer.

Who is holding out?  It depends on which dialogs you take the entire relationship.  You can have it fairly committed from the beginning, or you can make it as two people who are falling in love despite how hard they try not to.  You have the option to tell him, right from the start, that you think you'd like it if he stayed on after the blight.  

Again, I take turning down the earring as telling him that you want more than just a gift -- you want a commitment.  And during the friendship dialog, of course, since it's not a romance dialog, and since friendship means everything to him, you're going to get a more powerful statement if you let him know you consider him a friend as well.

When he's turning you down for the tent, you can push it, ask him if he's having second thoughts about "us."  I mean, you DO have plenty of opportunities to let him know you care, but you're also not going to get all the "I love you"s that are in the Leliana and Alistair romances.  

Edit: And as we all know now (*grin*), what Zevran responds at the gate if you tell him you love him. He can't say it.  But he does feel it.  Helping him be able to admit it to himself is such a wonderful thing for him.  I think he was falling in love the entire time, and he had no clue what that really meant.

The dialogue options, though ... I don't see a way there to express more to him than he does to you, or to commit more to him than he does to you.  It tend to be the other way round.   I think he makes it clear from early on that he wants to stay with you.  The warden doesn't do any more than reciprocate by letting him know that he/she wants him around.  

I suppose if you give the more light-hearted, jokey answer in the 'free of the Crows' conversation then you get the more lighthearted, jokey response.  But I don't think that's showing a lack of commitment.      Just saying that you're glad to have him stay means that he says he will stay until death.   Commitment isn't a problem (my wardens thought that he meant it).   He will easily commit.   (Even though you don't commit to him at that level, verbally). 

The questions after the tent refusal are about his feelings again.   You don't get the option to say what you feel for him, not really.   And you're happy enough to go to the tent - you asked him to go, so you're not conflicted in the way that he is.  Oh, you are letting him know you care by asking, but you're not giving away as much as you expect him to give away.  

And the proposal - again, if you really want a proposal to happen, there's no option to propose to him.  Why not take the second offer of the earring, and then propose?  Because you can't - it's not in the dialogue options.   You can prompt him to make it a proposal - and then, as usual, he wants to do what you want, and even then you have the option of turning him down.

The way the dialogue is set up, he has to go that step further than you do.  Unless you imagine extra conversations (which I suppose you could), your PC is pretty cagey about what they feel - even more than he is, and without his reasons (unless you roleplay similar reasons).   Or from his point of view, they might not be feeling what he feels at all - what have you really told him, other than that he's a friend and you want him around? 

Also, he explains all along why he might be wary of love.   You don't give him any reason why you might be wary of it. 

The dialogue at the City Gates (thank you SO much for that!) where you say you love hiim and his response - that is so precious.  To have him know that you love him and be so happy about it is lovely.  Maybe that's the point of having those frustrating dialogue options - that you only really get to say what you feel right near the end.  It does work, dramatically, I admit. 

[ejoslin]

Nonvita wrote...

Ah yes, it's the time of night for the "after hours" specials to come on. I agree with ejoslin, Worst 3-some Ever Pt. 2 was just hilarious. XD And yeah, wow, I knew Loghain had no balls, but I didn't know the whole package was missing!

OK, done with the terrible jokes...

ejoslin, I just tried out your mod. I see you beat me to trying the Alistair romance (and that's hilarious what happened), but just wanted to say it worked perfectly for me in both Alistair's and Zevran's cases! The only thing I'm wondering is- currently if both are romanced it automatically goes to Alistair- is there any way to switch it so Zevran's takes precedence? It's really not important if it can't be. Thanks so much for the mod!

You must have downloaded the new version -- version 1.0 definitely is broke but version 1.1 is fine.  I took v1.0 down, so I'm denying EVERYTHING *grin*.  And lesson learned -- I should have tested Alistair at least before putting it up.  

As far as switching...  I'll look at it.  Right now it's a case of KISS, and leaving it in alphabetical order IS the simplest.  

Thank you so much for testing!  I'm really surprised that no one yelled at me on DANexus (yet).  Ah well, it DOES say clearly there that it's in testing.

I can't believe no one said this about the 3-some:  ENCHANTMENT!

Edit: The outtakes.  OMG.  Ok, dammit, I KNOW better than to drink coffee at my computer and read the previous night's posts!

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 mars 2010 - 10:31 .

[UnDutchable]

My problem with the first offering of the earring and the reason I always refuse it is this: you both know you're much more than comrades-in-arms; even if you pick the "you're a friend" options it's clear that you care for each other. There are a lot of things left unsaid because Zevran doesn't really know how to interpret his own feelings and the PC is probably a little confused as well, considering the circumstances. But what are the first words out of Zevran's mouth after giving the PC the earring? "Don't get the wrong idea" He flat out lies to the PC's face and doesn't even give the PC the option of taking the earring in the spirit it's intended: Zevran treats it like some kind of business transaction that has to occur because every act of kindness is a debt that needs to be repaid and he wants to make damn sure the PC doesn't think otherwise. It's pretty insulting, not to mention hurtful. The first time I got the offer, I actually couldn't believe he was trying to pull that bull**** on my PC, of all people. It would have been fine if he had just said those awkward lines about how the PC can do with the earring what he/she wants - I totally expected that, and it's no surprise he's uncomfortable with expressing his feelings. But to actually tell the PC not to get the wrong idea, when it's blatantly obvious that the PC has the right idea? None of my characters so far have been willing to put up with that.

From the moment he's in your party, Zevran wants to know what's going to happen to him once he outgrows his usefulness to the PC. By the time you get the earring, you've made it very clear that you don't really give a toss about how many darkspawn he can kill or how good he is at shining armor or looking pretty, because you consider him to be a friend/lover/something complicated. It's also pretty obvious that you're not going to get any "I love yous" from him, but I think the PC has the right to at least ask for some honesty on Zevran's part. I get it Zev, you have trouble expressing your feelings and that's fine, but don't you dare pretend a highly personal gift doesn't mean anything.

Besides, I agree with whoever said he's not angry because you refused the earring, but because you don't let him get away with his excuses. He brings up all the other "treasures" you pick up in your travels because that way he won't have to deal with his feelings and he can just pretend his earring is some unimportant bauble. I always refuse the earring the first time because it bloody well shouldn't be some unimportant bauble.

Oh lookie, another half hour wasted on online forums instead of writing my Master Thesis.

[Sabriana]

I think that the PC wanting the earring to mean something says that she feels far more than just casual friendship or a non-committal all around. I agree, if the PC line went more in the "Our relationship/you means something special to me, so I won't take the earring if it means nothing but a 'thank you' for you", but unfortunately the preceding isn't there to pick.

I, as the player, know that my PC is in love with Zevran. My PC says to Wynne "Zevran is special." and that means he really is more than anything casual to her. I know the PC also says "We're having fun." But I don't see that as backward connecting. To me, those are two sentences without a connection. Yes, he is special, and yes, they are also having fun. Plus, to me, the 'having fun' is not only the schmexy-time. I can readily imagine that the PC and Zevran have fun joking around, talking, and getting to know each other in a non-sexual way as well.

[Charsen]

here is are screenshots of the last conversion for a 5.5 second portion of my soon to be sexytime cutscene mod.

***NSFW***

Zevran topping:

Human male
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Human female
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Elven male
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Elven female
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Dwarf male
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Dwarf female
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Thoughts on female faces especially would be really helpful. =P but suggestions/comments/etc are appreciated. i am not looking for perfection -- the toolset cannot do some things and i have not learned many things yet, so i am just shooting for a passing grade. =p

i already posted the zevran bottom screens earlier.

yet again Zevran has kept me up too late. Sabriana you will have to tuck me in again, lol, since i'm literally nodding off as i typed this out. =p

Modifié par Charsen, 30 mars 2010 - 11:06 .

[ejoslin]

Sabriana wrote...

I think that the PC wanting the earring to mean something says that she feels far more than just casual friendship or a non-committal all around. I agree, if the PC line went more in the "Our relationship/you means something special to me, so I won't take the earring if it means nothing but a 'thank you' for you", but unfortunately the preceding isn't there to pick.
I, as the player, know that my PC is in love with Zevran. My PC says to Wynne "Zevran is special." and that means he really is more than anything casual to her. I know the PC also says "We're having fun." But I don't see that as backward connecting. To me, those are two sentences without a connection. Yes, he is special, and yes, they are also having fun. Plus, to me, the 'having fun' is not only the schmexy-time. I can readily imagine that the PC and Zevran have fun joking around, talking, and getting to know each other in a non-sexual way as well.

Oh, absolutely.  In fact, if you're NOT having sex with Zevran when you have the conversation with Wynne, you pretty much have to take it that way.  That they're hanging out, laughing, and just having fun half the night.

It's interesting that with Zevran, you always have to invite him to your tent -- there's never the assumption there that you two as lovers share the same sleeping arrangement.  With Alistair and Leliana, you basically suggest going to bed when you want sexytime.  With Zevran, it's seems to be assumed he goes to his tent unless you invite him to yours. 

I do think it's very safe to assume that there are conversations that happen that are not in the game -- Leliana references them, in fact, if she's romanced.  Also, there are several times you can tell Zevran how glad you are to have him with you.

Edit: @Charsen ohohohoh! Female scenes!  YAY!  My older daughter just came downstairs, and now I have to wait until she and her brothers leave for school, and I'll put off waking my youngest so I can see them!

Modifié par ejoslin, 30 mars 2010 - 11:08 .