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[Sabriana]

Yeah, it's hard to do. My PC takes rewards from everyone, does all the side quests available, and sells everything that she can't use. There's some great stuff to find in some side-quests such as the Ysaris (sp?) in the mage's tower. (Watchguard quest)

Of course, I do have a mod that makes the merchants a bit more reasonable. It's not game-breaking, and doesn't feel like cheating to me. Getting 25% value is more like the PC gets constantly taken for a sucker-ride, and not real haggling.

[Cuddlezarro]

duel Daggers with momentum pump out much more damage while backstabbing if built right

also I can normally buy atleast 1 super expencive item after selling all the loot I get fdrom the deep roads

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 28 janvier 2010 - 11:24 .

[BlastedLands]

Cuddlezarro wrote...



if you play your cards right you can get Leliena to accept Zevrans proposal and if hes in a romance with you he turns it down

meh. how? it never turns out like that for me <_<

[Cuddlezarro]

you need to "harden" leliena and tell her when she comments on you and Zevrans relationship that zevran would probably be more than willing for her to join in



also you must have not already gotten the banter

[BlastedLands]

hm.... thank you. i seem to "qualify", but still she refuses. maybe i'll just have to mess around a bit more.

[Cuddlezarro]

well Leliena is rather glitchy (ok thats an understatement)

[BlastedLands]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

well Leliena is rather glitchy (ok thats an understatement)

yeah, she drives me crazy every other occasion. the nug, this, just overall... i'll try tomorrow, so far she only voiced mild interest:lol:

[Pinkleaf]

Zevran is just a cheeky little boy in need of discipline, or a good woman, or both. :-)

[BlastedLands]

Pinkleaf wrote...

Zevran is just a cheeky little boy in need of discipline, or a good woman, or both. :-)

uhm... that's creepy

[ejoslin]

A good man will work for Zev as well

[ejoslin]

I agree with duel daggers -- they really are the best route for the best damage. Much faster than a long sword, and at least with a cunning build, just as much damage. Momentum, coup de grace, and paralyze runes really I think is the best way to go just because you get the insane damage of backstabs without worrying about positioning. Zevran is definitely more damage than anyone else in my party, though my duel wielding warrior pc isn't TOO far behind -- but her stats are much better as well.

[Rhinna]

Meh, for some reason the 'search' option is gone from my forum page *sighs*

This playthrough I want to get the "her or me" dialogue from Zev, so I have both he and Leliana up to about 53+, both at 'care'. Is there one I need to bump higher first in order to get the speech? sleep with both of them? can anyone throw me a quick pointer? thanks!

Oh, and I am going to refuse the ring the first time (unless it "means something") can I then initiate conversation at camp after that and get it offered again? On my second playthrough I tried this, never got the ring offer again, although I was at "love" so missed the whole commitment chat

[ejoslin]

Both need to be at 71+.

And yes, turn it down. And ask him to your tent. A warning, though, not all dialogs when he declares his feelings will lead to him offering it the second time -- the "nicest" one will not, nor will the bad one.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 29 janvier 2010 - 02:04 .

[Rhinna]

ejoslin wrote...

And yes, turn it down. And ask him to your tent. A warning, though, not all dialogs when he declares his feelings will lead to him offering it the second time -- the "nicest" one will not, nor will the bad one.  

Oi ejo! I see a lot of reloading in my future!

[Sabriana]

I usually give him some strength too, and I must say, that of all the companions, he dies the least. He is very good with sword and dagger. I love watching him.

[jenovan]

Sabriana wrote...
I usually give him some strength too, and I must say, that of all the companions, he dies the least. He is very good with sword and dagger. I love watching him.

He's so much fun to watch!  I'll frequently have paused to arrange something in battle, and he'll be in the midst of some "ridiculously awesome" or amazingly graceful pose that I've just got to screenshot.

Hmm, just saw the pricetag on the Rose's Thorn last night!    Hopefully I'll have enough for it by the time I'm through with Orzammar... 

[Sabriana]

Lol, Jenovan, same here. I so wanted the dagger for him, but I looked a the price-tag and went "You want how much for that...?? Say what?!?"

[ejoslin]

I don't buy much in the game, which may be why I don't find money an issue at all (I do not mod it). I buy the resist ring in Denerim, the Felon coat, the belt from the mage tower, and the rose thorn. Oh, and far song if my warden is an archer (I hate what you have to do to get it, but it is so good). I do do some shady things, I suppose. I always let the demon live in asunder, I not only deliver the lyrium, but I shake down Godwin, and I sell everything, even good stuff, if it is not equipped. Only gifts sit in my storage chest. Since I use control instead of healing for the most part, even potions are not a big expense. My biggest expense is poisons, but I generally only use them for either boss battles or huge fights (warrior goes in with stunning poisons on her blades). Traps are nice, but once I get to a certain level, I find it's easier NOT to use them since my mage, again, is able to keep things locked down.

[Sabriana]

Far Song? What the heck did I miss now?

But I do almost the same thing, Ejoslin,,except getting th Felon's coat, I go for the one in Orzammar (Shadow..something). Simply because in my game, Wade's Emporium does not carry the Felon's coat - ever.



I feel bad about the, (well most of them) bar-tender quests. Some really leave a bad taste in my mouth. Heck, I prefer the Crow's quests to them in the most part. At least most of the Crow's quests are related to the main quest. I just wish I could drop-kick Ignacio for calling Zevran a wh***son, and Zevran just takes it, without much emotion visible.

It gives me an inkling about the treatment the poor guy had to suffer starting at age 7.

[ejoslin]

To get Far Song, THE best bow, the old man smithy in Redcliff has to die. Either you kill him or he kills himself. The new smithy there sells it after, I believe the third treaty. Oh, and Felon's coat is available at the same time, provided you haven't handed in the second set of drake scales by then.

[ejoslin]

AAAAAAHHHHHHH *cry* *cry* *cry* City elf spoiler ahead! But Alistair let me down!



Ok, I've done City Elf before, and in the Alienage, of course when Zevran hears about the wedding he's upset, and Alistair no matter what says, "You never told me you were betrothed" if either Zevran (or Leliana) are romanced and in your party, OR if Alistair is your romance.



HOWEVER, this time my Warden HAD told Alistair at Flemeth's hut, when he was going on about Duncan, that she could understand because her fiance had just been killed. I was really hoping that would lead to a different dialog since she had told him. I guess his grief was too great at that time for him to remember but still . . . That's one piece of information I can't imagine forgetting no matter what the circumstance.



Well, so much for romancing Alistair at all my next play through. That's just TOO self absorbed! *grin*

[Creature 1]

Don't be so harsh to poor Alistair. He was thinking about his hair when you told him first.

[Addai]

ejoslin wrote...

I don't buy much in the game, which may be why I don't find money an issue at all (I do not mod it). I buy the resist ring in Denerim, the Felon coat, the belt from the mage tower, and the rose thorn. Oh, and far song if my warden is an archer (I hate what you have to do to get it, but it is so good). I do do some shady things, I suppose. I always let the demon live in asunder, I not only deliver the lyrium, but I shake down Godwin, and I sell everything, even good stuff, if it is not equipped. Only gifts sit in my storage chest. Since I use control instead of healing for the most part, even potions are not a big expense. My biggest expense is poisons, but I generally only use them for either boss battles or huge fights (warrior goes in with stunning poisons on her blades). Traps are nice, but once I get to a certain level, I find it's easier NOT to use them since my mage, again, is able to keep things locked down.

What do you mean by using your mage for "control"?  I think I know what you mean, but wondering what you do specifically.

I'm always pretty poor in my games, not sure why.  I never even look at those items you mention.  Somehow I muddle through!

[ejoslin]

*sob* She told him. Dammit! She told him at the beginning, he courted her anyway, she allowed herself to be wooed, and thought maybe he was comforting her, just a little, for HER personal loss. Turns out, he just plain out forgot.



Does he ever see the Warden as a real person I wonder?

[ejoslin]

Addai67 wrote...

I'm always pretty poor in my games, not sure why.  I never even look at those items you mention.  Somehow I muddle through!

Hmmm, my current game I have close to 200 gold so I may buy something else, not sure yet.  My characters are all 19 or 20, and I haven't done any cheats or exploits.  I play on hard, though I sometimes notch it down to normal (or even easy if I'm wanting to rush through something like the fade).  By control I mean sleep, paralyze, blizzard, the blood mage one, the third one (ugh, what is that called again?) which is basically group crushing prison, and of course crushing prison.  I also use stunning poisons and cold bombs.  Anything to slow or stop attacks.  Weapons have paralyzing runes and/or slow runes in the primary, resists in the secondary.

Modifié par ejoslin, 29 janvier 2010 - 04:20 .