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[Addai]

We do have a wide monitor, but that didn't change, only the graphics card.



Oh, that Alistair fix would have been nice when I tried to do the breakup-then-marry-him game. He kept saying we weren't friends, it was a little heartbreaking. I ended up re-doing the end part of the game without the breakup.



I will wait with bated breath for the female smooches!

[ejoslin]

Ooooh, and a serious question. With my ZGDF, I am trying to add NOTHING to the game that isn't already in there. This leads me to a bit of a problem because even though I'm cleaning up the Alistair dialog, there is the little issue of the sacrifice if Alistair is in love or still in love. I'd rather keep it the way it is -- I think it's an amazing story arc. But would this prevent you from using the gates fix? Now that I have Zevran's friendly dialog working, I'd hate for people to miss his speech even at friendly over this.

Edit: And Addai67, yeh, it does stink at the end because of that.  The scripts for Alistair are just as messed up as the ones for Zevran.  I fixed them, and changed flags since some of them seemed to be put in at random.  I figured I couldn't make things worse, and things seem to be working far better now.  Him referring to himself as king, however, is a bit more complex since there are not only no alternatives, but trying to get the references to him skipped at the DR just gives me error messages.

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 avril 2010 - 03:52 .

[Nonvita]

ejoslin wrote...

Addai67, change your graphics options to a resolution that fits your monitor. Sounds like you have a wide screen monitor now.

The kisses are not in yet. I do have a new version up of my mod that cleans up Alistair's dialog quite a bit, BUT he still refers to himself as king even when he's not. HOWEVER, he now gives appropriate responses when the political marriage is at warm or friendly (yes, that was wrong), there's no longer the dialog choice, "I know we're not friends" unless he's at neutral or hostile, the "still in love" flag actually works now and he gets those dialogs, etc etc. I'm working on the king thing, but THAT will be a major project.

Edit: I also made a change to the funeral.  If you have either Leliana or Zevran "in love," even if Alistair has the "still in love" flag, he'll give the buddy ending so you get the closeup of Lel's or Zev's face.  However, if there was no other love interest and Alistair is "still in love" you get his "still in love" dialog. 

Awesome fixes, ejoslin! Part of me wants to try out the funeral, and part of me is...

[ejoslin]

Nonvita, they're working for you? I was sniffling over the "still in love" dialogs -- very very sad, especially if you're going to die. I had no clue there was an alternative to, "Let's kick its ass." *sigh*

Edit: Nonvita, only one of that version has been downloaded, and it didn't have the funeral files in it.  So if you're the one who downloaded it, the funeral is safe for you for now!

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 avril 2010 - 03:56 .

[SurrealSadi]

There is? I've only ever seen "Let's find the Archdemon and kick its ass"...

[ejoslin]

SurrealSadi wrote...

There is? I've only ever seen "Let's find the Archdemon and kick its ass"...

Yeh, that surprised me.  It's one of the "still in love" dialogs.  I'll go over the whole thing some more to make sure I didn't miss any more of the messups.  I didn't test too much as I'm not a huge Alistair fan.  And I wasn't really reading the dialog so much as looking at the conditions, so when I got a tearjerker when testing, I was surprised.

[Datghosty]

Personally speaking, i only romanced Zev for the achievement, after that i gave him a new face (yes call me cruel but i hated his hair style)

tho i do need to get over my evil addiction of romancing alistair only to get him executed.

[Addai]

Ohh, I see a mod that I haven't tried yet... the Shianni one. Yay! Thank the Maker I didn't lose all my game saves. My husband actually told the PC repair, when we thought it might be a catastrophic problem, that we didn't have any important data to be saved. I made him go back and tell them to save the Bioware folder! Heh. I should figure out how to back up game saves.

[Sresla]

Ej,

Sort of odd request since I know you're busy working on dialogue fixes but do you know if there's a way to modify (with the toolset) when story screenshots are taken? Or what dictates them? It'd be nice if there was some way to trigger a story shot whenever Zevran gets a cutscene. I know he gets a few (Ostagar/Fade/Killing Taliesin) but not enough (imo) and I'm forced to resort to doing it myself (not that I mind, more Zevran is always a good thing but still). And with the amount of dialogue he does get throughout the game, it's a shame that some of these moments might get missed, especially if people aren't ready for them.

And am I the only person who finds it extremely odd that it's Alistair that gets a picture when you're on the Long Road and recruit Zevran? You'd think there'd be a picture of Zevran giving his oath...

Modifié par Sresla, 03 avril 2010 - 04:08 .

[SurrealSadi]

ejoslin wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

There is? I've only ever seen "Let's find the Archdemon and kick its ass"...

Yeh, that surprised me.  It's one of the "still in love" dialogs.  I'll go over the whole thing some more to make sure I didn't miss any more of the messups.  I didn't test too much as I'm not a huge Alistair fan.  And I wasn't really reading the dialog so much as looking at the conditions, so when I got a tearjerker when testing, I was surprised.

How interesting. Now I'm curious.

I know when Amalia(DCF) got to the Gate, she had broken up with Ali in a way to leave him still in love, but had gotten Zev's proposal. Amalia had hte option to tell Ali she still loved him...

[ejoslin]

There is an action to take a screenshot, but I haven't really looked at that too much. So the answer is yes, but I'm not sure how.

Surreal, earlier versions of Dialog Tweaks fixed a lot of the problems with Alistair's comments at the gates -- but obviously, my mod conflicts with any other mod that fixes those problems (DT no longer messes with those files, but that's only the most recent version). The way I'm fixing these files, though, may be different from the way other people have gone about it. I'm doing a combination of fixing scripts and changing conditions as well as changing the conditions in the dialogs themselves. So it's possible that I'm getting different things to trigger.

I started playing with the scripts when fixing the "royal scandal" dialog. It was impossible to fix any other way -- I had to change the trigger for that dialog at a lower level than what you can do in the dialogs. Turns out, someone left two lines of code out. So then I started looking at the rest of the script and saw all sorts of horrendous mistakes in the code.

Alistair's scripts are just as messed up as Zevran's, but I'm not going to be as good at catching the mistakes just because, well, I don't focus too much on him.

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 avril 2010 - 04:18 .

[Nonvita]

Sresla wrote...

And am I the only person who finds it extremely odd that it's Alistair that gets a picture when you're on the Long Road and recruit Zevran? You'd think there'd be a picture of Zevran giving his oath...

LOL too true! Alistair also gets all sorts of screenshots throughout the game--I go through my files and even when I didn't romance Alistair I have far more of him than anyone else...

I know I've seen the script to take a screenshot in the toolset, so there's definitely a way. That said, I will leave it up to ejoslin to handle it!

Edit: *sigh* Ninja'd. As always. Really, this thread is just a bunch of sneaky ninja witch thiefs or something... 


And no, ejoslin, it wasn't me. Does the file that's up right now work? I'm curious now to see Alistair's "still in love" speech...

Modifié par Nonvita, 03 avril 2010 - 04:22 .

[SurrealSadi]

ejoslin wrote...

There is an action to take a screenshot, but I haven't really looked at that too much. So the answer is yes, but I'm not sure how.

Surreal, earlier versions of Dialog Tweaks fixed a lot of the problems with Alistair's comments at the gates -- but obviously, my mod conflicts with any other mod that fixes those problems (DT no longer messes with those files, but that's only the most recent version). The way I'm fixing these files, though, may be different from the way other people have gone about it. I'm doing a combination of fixing scripts and changing conditions as well as changing the conditions in the dialogs themselves. So it's possible that I'm getting different things to trigger.

I started playing with the scripts when fixing the "royal scandal" dialog. It was impossible to fix any other way -- I had to change the trigger for that dialog at a lower level than what you can do in the dialogs. Turns out, someone left two lines of code out. So then I started looking at the rest of the script and saw all sorts of horrendous mistakes in the code.

Alistair's scripts are just as messed up as Zevran's, but I'm not going to be as good at catching the mistakes just because, well, I don't focus too much on him.

Ahh.. Well, I cannot mod, unfortunately, consoles lack modding ability. So, I'm content enough to read about these things and see/squee over potential screenies of them.

[ejoslin]

It's possible that the "I still love you" line had a different condition as well -- some of them appeared to be assigned at random. I know my first playthrough, when Alistair most definitely had the "still in love" flag, I got the buddy ending and it broke my heart. Consoles probably have a different set of bugs :/ Some people apparently get the proper Zevran dialog at the gates, though I have no clue how that could happen either seeing as the complete mess that is. Probably changes were made after the game went gold, and new bugs were introduced there.

[SurrealSadi]

Ah.. I think with that playthrough, I may have gotten the proper Zev lines, but they didn't give Amalia the option to tell Zev she loved him, so I've no idea what "flag" tripped on that.

[ejoslin]

*grin* If you didn't have the option to tell him you loved him, then you didn't have the proper dialog.

[ejoslin]

Nonvita wrote...

Sresla wrote...

And am I the only person who finds it extremely odd that it's Alistair that gets a picture when you're on the Long Road and recruit Zevran? You'd think there'd be a picture of Zevran giving his oath...

LOL too true! Alistair also gets all sorts of screenshots throughout the game--I go through my files and even when I didn't romance Alistair I have far more of him than anyone else...

I know I've seen the script to take a screenshot in the toolset, so there's definitely a way. That said, I will leave it up to ejoslin to handle it!

Edit: *sigh* Ninja'd. As always. Really, this thread is just a bunch of sneaky ninja witch thiefs or something... 


And no, ejoslin, it wasn't me. Does the file that's up right now work? I'm curious now to see Alistair's "still in love" speech...

1.5 has the change to the funeral in it.  If you decide you don't like the changes to the Alistair dialog, just delete the Alistair folder.

[SurrealSadi]

ejoslin wrote...

*grin* If you didn't have the option to tell him you loved him, then you didn't have the proper dialog.

Very very good point

On another note: I know this is a Zev thread, but I have to post this.

[ejoslin]

Elps, thank you.

And I apologize to everyone for my incredibly boring post trying to explain modding using probably every incorrect term I could! I was never good at speaking techno babble! It makes me more incoherent than usual, and more than a little dull!

I think I need to talk about Zevran's thighs, really.

Edit: though that pic of Ali is pretty hot!

Modifié par ejoslin, 03 avril 2010 - 04:44 .

[SurrealSadi]

Oh seriously hot. I'm not a huge fan of his, but Wow.

[Kryyptehk]

SurrealSadi wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

*grin* If you didn't have the option to tell him you loved him, then you didn't have the proper dialog.

Very very good point

On another note: I know this is a Zev thread, but I have to post this.

Oh my! That...I...Maker!

-faints-

[Nonvita]

SurrealSadi wrote...

On another note: I know this is a Zev thread, but I have to post this.

:happy:





Not what I was expecting, but all right!

[SurrealSadi]

*grin* Hey, at least it's not Wynne or Oghren. And it's tasteful in it's nudity. But Damn. If Zev had a scene like that in-game, I think all of us would be dead from excessive nosebleeds.