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sami jo

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ejoslin wrote...

sami jo wrote...

@MG: My husband is asleep already, but I will ask him in the morning.

@Ejoslin: Does your newest version of the Zev dialogues include Charsen's awesome kisses?


No they do not.  As far as I know, he's still working on them.  When the kisses are added, trust me, I will be posting all about it every other post most likely!  But the way you can tell is when the kisses are added, it will be Zevran Dialog Fix 2.0.  

My changes now have more to do with Alistair's dialog.  There are a lot of problems with Alistair's dialog end game, and some of it interferes with Zevran play throughs.  So I've been cleaning up the scripts for Alistair (I'm done with that for now) and putting in proper conditions in the dlg files as well.  I'm not doing anything really in depth there as other mods take care of that, but I figured some people would probably want a fairly clean endgame with Alistair without all the lore changes that other endgame mods put in.  Besides, Alistair's been giving the wrong dialog to his political fiance long enough!

I am not making changes to the basic story, however.  For instance, I have decided not to put in an option to allow a femwarden whom Alistair is either in love with or still in love with to overrule Alistair and do the US instead of him.  I am just sticking with what is actually in the game and correcting bugs.

I did make one exception, though.  If Alistair is flagged "Still in Love" but either Zevran or Leliana are in love, Alistair will give the "friend" ending to the funeral so the camera will focus on the lover's face there instead of Alistair's.  I went back and forth on this, because obviously if Alistair is still in love, he would give that line, but shouldn't the person who actually is in love be given priority?  I could be convinced to change that one back.


I love it the way you have it, or the way you described it anyway.  I haven't had a chance to test it yet.  I'd prefer to keep the lore intact and just have it de-glitched. 

Thank you!:wub:

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sami jo wrote...

I love it the way you have it, or the way you described it anyway.  I haven't had a chance to test it yet.  I'd prefer to keep the lore intact and just have it de-glitched. 

Thank you!:wub:


I love them, too! I was actually really pissed at DT for allowing the Warden to talk Alistair out of sacrificing himself. That right there is one of the most emotional twists in the game, so changing it really weakens the emotional impact to me. And seeing the other lover's face is great, too (in a terrible way), since Alistair's reaction is quite contained, and it shouldn't be the central focus if he is only "still in love."

I love you so much for understanding all that, ejoslin! Can't wait to try it out! (And be in a bad/sad/depressed mood when I do :crying:)

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SurrealSadi wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

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You put on your robe and wizard hat? Image IPB


 woulent you like to know 

:devil:

Ah, but who's wand are you weilding?


not yours thats for sure :P

Rather difficult to wield something I do not possess in the first place:P

Actually, it's a control rod.

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well I just made Charsens world crumble

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sami jo wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

sami jo wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

sami jo wrote...

@Ejoslin: Does your newest version of the Zev dialogues include Charsen's awesome kisses?



probably nto since iv been distracting him~


I initially typed something about sharing your toys with the rest of us but realized that it could (and would in this group) be horribly twisted.  :P



cant be more twisted than some of the conversations the both of us have over AIM :devil:


I'm not opposed to twisted convos.  However, I have a fever, have had cold medicine, and have had a glass of wine; which induces a level of intoxication roughly equivalent to what the average person would experience after guzzling half a vineyard worth of wine.  (Read: the edit button in my brain is sunning itself in Tahiti)  I could rather quickly become a public menace. :whistle:


We'll be sure to issue warnings about you at the border.

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Tellervo wrote...

We'll be sure to issue warnings about you at the border.


Ahh, the good old days.

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

well I just made Charsens world crumble


:crying::crying::crying:

zomg CZ you've been talking about how EVIL a distraction you are, right?! 

i seem to have lost allessar's save file for the EM... doing some corrections on the male elves... *goes back to look for it in the thread*

i will work on the femkisses tomorrow! *hangs head in shame*

*edit* found Alessar! Will be testing the EM now.
I expanded the EM kiss to 25 seconds, and it's very sad :crying:

Modifié par Charsen, 04 avril 2010 - 06:42 .


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Charsen wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

well I just made Charsens world crumble


:crying::crying::crying:

zomg CZ you've been talking about how EVIL a distraction you are, right?! 

i seem to have lost allessar's save file for the EM... doing some corrections on the male elves... *goes back to look for it in the thread*

i will work on the femkisses tomorrow! *hangs head in shame*

*edit* found Alessar! Will be testing the EM now.
I expanded the EM kiss to 25 seconds, and it's very sad :crying:


I was about to cry foul, favoritism, or something, but if its that sad, maybe do not want?

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Charsen wrote...

*edit* found Alessar! Will be testing the EM now.
I expanded the EM kiss to 25 seconds, and it's very sad :crying:


Aww, what's sad? :(

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Nonvita wrote...

Charsen wrote...

*edit* found Alessar! Will be testing the EM now.
I expanded the EM kiss to 25 seconds, and it's very sad :crying:


Aww, what's sad? :(



the fact hes having to work on twinky elf men

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oh Tellervo did you send me an EM? for some reason I thought i only had a HM from you

Test scenes with Jenovan's EM, Alessar (Thanks Jenovan!)

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I have to figure out if i can remove the gore for the cutscene, plus i need to tweak a tiny problem with zevran's horrible freakish hand, but other than that, it's good to go

Modifié par Charsen, 04 avril 2010 - 07:05 .


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Cuddlezarro wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Charsen wrote...

*edit* found Alessar! Will be testing the EM now.
I expanded the EM kiss to 25 seconds, and it's very sad :crying:


Aww, what's sad? :(



the fact hes having to work on twinky elf men


well, lol, a little --

it's sad because i drew out the end of the kiss to really enforce Zevran's loss... if people don't like it though i can easily cut it out, but it's a good few seconds of basically Zevran watching the Warden leave

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Hiya. No, I haven't read anything yet, just popping in to say hello. I got home at 3ish AM, but I'm up and feeling good. We were out yet again, but thank goodness I drew the 'designated driver' card. I should call up my friends and yell "Happy Easter" real loud, hehe. (No, I'm not really going to do that, that would be cruel).

I have to go to have the Easter meal with my parents soon, but I'll try to catch up with the thread. I see Charsen is still working on the EM, and nice pictures they are (as usual).

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Charsen wrote...

well, lol, a little --

it's sad because i drew out the end of the kiss to really enforce Zevran's loss... if people don't like it though i can easily cut it out, but it's a good few seconds of basically Zevran watching the Warden leave


Awwww, well I'm sure it's wonderful. *wants more pics to test this hypothesis* :innocent:

If it makes you feel any better, I'm practically balling my eyes out from writing my mage's backstory. Why I am writing depressing fanfiction when I could easily be writing sexy Zevran fanfiction (or drawing sexy naked Zevran), I'll never know. :(


Happy Easter, Sabriana! I'm glad you're feeling alive and well--enjoy your family meal!

Modifié par Nonvita, 04 avril 2010 - 07:20 .


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Charsen wrote...

oh Tellervo did you send me an EM? for some reason I thought i only had a HM from you

Test scenes with Jenovan's EM, Alessar (Thanks Jenovan!)

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I have to figure out if i can remove the gore for the cutscene, plus i need to tweak a tiny problem with zevran's horrible freakish hand, but other than that, it's good to go


I didn't send you anything.  It's just, they get a ~25 second, wasn't HM ~13?

Yes, and the hand... looking back at my HM screenshots, its nowhere near the head, which I assume is what you were going for.

As for gore, I don't know about removing it in the toolset, but in game you can toggle persistant gore, which will remove it during cutscenes.

Modifié par Tellervo, 04 avril 2010 - 07:27 .


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Thank you Nonvita. Same to you. Same to everyone, actually. Goshamity what lovely pictures. I love the fan-art.

I also have to go and check out the live-journal stuffeth. And get Ejoslin's latest dialogue fixes. So much to do, so little time...

Here we have two Easter holidays, Easter Sunday, and Easter Monday. I swear, if they come knocking at my door tonight, I'll turn out the lights and hide. I'm totally exhausted, I tell you. Aaand I've not been able to play much. *Needs Zevran fix*

I can understand the addiction to certain origins though. I'm more or less hooked on the HNF, and interchange warrior and rogue (not on the same char of-course). I don't know, there's something delicious about a Highborn-noble woman falling super-hard for an elf.

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thanks Sabriana! Nonvita i will post some of the next round of kisses tomorrow -- wanted to just post only two of the EM so that Jenovan can take pics of her own character if she wants. =)



Ohh yes, i see what you're saying Tellervo. i do plan to expand the HM scene too since i am a primary HM player! i figured out something new when i was doing the EM scene, basically it will make transitions smoother... so i will redo the HM once i finish the others probably. i want to get at least a beta version for each kiss done before i go back for any touchups though.



Tellervo, do you mean the console command for disabling gore? im going to check into this tomorrow.



i just uploaded the EM kiss, with the HM kiss in Random Mods. any reviews are kindly appreciated -- shorten the Zevsad part, adjust camera angles, anything like that.

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I like the gore. I think I'd rather have it there rather than magically disappearing.

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Next round? Ohhh, do the girls get some kisses in that there round? Then I'll definitely have to stay home tonight, this is too important!

*Ponders*

Your tomorrow IS my tonight, isn't it? Darn confusing time-zones, bleh.

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i like it too actually. i just figured others wouldn't like it! heh

edit: yep, females next round! 
unless CZ ends up distracting me all day tomorrow too... :innocent:

Modifié par Charsen, 04 avril 2010 - 08:16 .


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Female dwarf tent scenes (with Zevran) are lovely. I think the dwarves look sexy in those scenes. It's just that the rest of the time, they look out of proportion, in a slightly scary way. It has really put me off playing another. I have a screenshot taken of my dwarf at the ashes, when the clothes are removed, and it's horrible. I found it difficult to imagine her as a object of desire after looking at that. I don't get that feeling with the male dwarves, although I haven't played one yet.

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Charsen wrote...

i like it too actually. i just figured others wouldn't like it! heh

edit: yep, females next round! 
unless CZ ends up distracting me all day tomorrow too... :innocent:


Nooo, don't let him do that, Charsen! :lol: My poor mage is on hold, and is waiting for you.

I agree, Sannox, I watched it (YouTube, I think) and liked the tent scene a lot. I have a dwarf girl waiting in the wings, but I just can't get myself to play her. My mage is patiently waiting for Charsen, so I made a new Char. Yes, it's another HN, and she's a rogue/archer. I can't seem to get away from them, not for long at any rate, ;)

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Lol Sabriana, no worries, it is my plan to spend all day tomorrow on the female human and hopefully get to the female elf by the end of the day. *fingers crossed* your mage is human right?

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Yes, yes she is indeed. And she's spreading the word of Charsen all over Ferelden, lol.

I'm sure you are asleep, but I just arrived at my parent's house. Sorry for the lateness :)

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Ooh, female elf is soon, eh? Very exciting news, Charsen!

And good morning, Sabriana! You'll have to post some screen shots for us once Charsen finishes the HF (I only have elves and dwarves :lol:)

Edit: The screenies are tempting me to make a HNM, though...

Modifié par senorfuzzylips, 04 avril 2010 - 10:10 .