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Some Wardens have greater survivability than others.  My Warden is clueless in many ways.  He grew up in the Tower, so he doesn't know where in a city is safe to go, where will result in people trying to kill him, and where he will get arrested for contaminating the streets with his elfness.  Fortunately he's a mage so the mage robes help him get away with his insolent bearing!  :wizard:

LOL, true enough.  I imagine there are plenty of Wardens (like Missa Brosca! XD) who could handle Antiva.  But plenty of others who miiiight... be a liability. Posted Image  (Hmmm, I think Alessar is somewhere in the middle of that spectrum... XD  Denerim can be an icky place...)

At least Alessar should know how to act around humans and how to manage in a big city. 

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The epilogues do not read the same. Pulling out the handy dandy toolset:



Grey wardens: As for <FirstName/>'s companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran returned with <FirstName/> to the Grey Wardens, helping to recruit and train new members even though he never officially joined the order.



Staying in Denerim: As for <FirstName/>'s companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran however, elected to remain at the side of his love--at least for a time.



Player travels (female): As for <FirstName/>'s companions, they went their separate ways. When <FirstName/> finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Zevran went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. They continued their adventures together--at least for a time.



Hmmmm, I see the problem of why a male warden gets the female card. I should probably fix that. But I wouldn't be able to test it. Would someone with a male character be willing to test that if it still needs changing? If it does, I'll fix it.




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Sabriana wrote...

Jenovan, that is so much like my silly mage, it's uncanny :).
That's exactly how she would feel. Scared, but willing to do it. For Zevran.

X3  I don't know if I'd describe Alessar as scared at that point, but he'd definitely be wary.
Besides, after all of Zevran's good stories, he might want to see Antiva for himself...
(Okay, I'm bad, but I'll link to my possibly too positive Antivan reunion story, since we're on the subject... Posted Image)


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At least Alessar should know how to act around humans and how to manage in a big city.

True enough; his concerns would be more specifically with the Crows. 

Ahh, poor elven mages... both ends of the stick are short. Posted Image  (Gotta try that origin some time, just to see how they get treated... )

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I must admit, I took the YES I WILL REMAIN A GREY WARDEN KING ALISTAIR LOLOLOL option, even though if felt wildly out of character, so Zevran would stay.

I'm such a sap! I always thought it was because the Crows cannot touch the Order, so Zevran stays... Anythign else and there's too much danger of a crow swoop, so to speak. It's why I'm loving Awakenings epilogues and the letter, as it gives more leeway for fitting the epilogue I want.

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ejoslin wrote...

The epilogues do not read the same. Pulling out the handy dandy toolset:

Grey wardens: As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran returned with to the Grey Wardens, helping to recruit and train new members even though he never officially joined the order.

Staying in Denerim: As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. Zevran however, elected to remain at the side of his love--at least for a time.

Player travels (female): As for 's companions, they went their separate ways. When finally left Denerim to continue her travels, Zevran went with her, electing to remain with the woman he loved. They continued their adventures together--at least for a time.

Hmmmm, I see the problem of why a male warden gets the female card. I should probably fix that. But I wouldn't be able to test it. Would someone with a male character be willing to test that if it still needs changing? If it does, I'll fix it.


You have to ask?  I'm pretty sure they fixed it, but if you hear otherwise, I'll happily test for you.

Modifié par Tellervo, 06 avril 2010 - 02:57 .


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Creature 1 wrote...

jenovan wrote...

Creature 1 wrote...

Some Wardens have greater survivability than others.  My Warden is clueless in many ways.  He grew up in the Tower, so he doesn't know where in a city is safe to go, where will result in people trying to kill him, and where he will get arrested for contaminating the streets with his elfness.  Fortunately he's a mage so the mage robes help him get away with his insolent bearing!  :wizard:

LOL, true enough.  I imagine there are plenty of Wardens (like Missa Brosca! XD) who could handle Antiva.  But plenty of others who miiiight... be a liability. Posted Image  (Hmmm, I think Alessar is somewhere in the middle of that spectrum... XD  Denerim can be an icky place...)

At least Alessar should know how to act around humans and how to manage in a big city. 

I think Artemis would be able to handle herself in Antiva. She's a bit of a b*tch, and by the end of the game will be able to shoot the wings off a fly with that bow of hers. She's Dalish, and got a chip on her shoulder.

Jaenelle, my elf mage, might be able to work in Antiva. Granted, she's a Healer first and foremost, but she can bow shyte up when need be...

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Tellervo wrote...

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Hmmmm, I see the problem of why a male warden gets the female card. I should probably fix that. But I wouldn't be able to test it. Would someone with a male character be willing to test that if it still needs changing? If it does, I'll fix it.


You have to ask?


I wasn't sure if it was still a problem.  I fixed it.  Want to test it?

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Oh, I see. I've never had an elf/Zevran hook-up. I can certainly see that now. Yes, the elves would have a great way to integrate Awakenings and the separation when it comes to the epilogue card.

Jenovan, I'm not a fanfic.... er, fan, and I don't usually like m/m f/f stories. No, not because of any kind of homophobia, but because I *really, really like* the f/m .... ah... hot stuff. The others just don't do much for me

However, you have succeeded in making me like your stories. Perhaps because I've such a crush on Alessar myself, lol.

I haven't gotten around to Tellervo's and Sresla's stuff yet, but I will. I know Tellervo has his stuff on LJ. He even had a link posted to the site. Pages and pages ago... *sigh*

Modifié par Sabriana, 06 avril 2010 - 03:01 .


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 Ok, I THINK I fixed the slideshow with the male character getting the female card if in love with Zevran and choosing to travel.  Can anyone with a male character at the end either test it or send me a copy of their save at the arch demon battle?  I can't believe this hasn't been fixed already, though.  But... if it hasn't, and if this works, I'll put it up at DA nexus!  Linky to my project.

Edit: I have no way of checking whether the bug is fixed or not, unfortunately.  It does not look like it is, but I don't have a male character there.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 avril 2010 - 03:14 .


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I've written Missa/Zevran sexytiems in my fanfic >.> <.<. I try to write plot, especially the romance development, but it always somehow reverts to pillowtalk.

It makes sense as Missa Brosca is a duster who is used to taking pleasures when she can and thinks that love **** her sister always dreamt about is a crock of bronto dung. So her and Zevran have to find a way to, uh, "talk," intially in the relationship. What? It's a kind of communication, body language. What you on about?

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soignee wrote...

I've written Missa/Zevran sexytiems in my fanfic >.>
It makes sense as Missa Brosca is a duster who is used to taking pleasures when she can and thinks that love **** her sister always dreamt about is a crock of bronto dung. So her and Zevran have to find a way to, uh, "talk," intially in the relationship. What? It's a kind of communication, body language. What you on about?


I've got yours bookmarked. You really should post a linky in the group's fanfic section. I skimmed over the first 'Duster' chapter, and that's another one that's on my to-do list. I only say that because all kinds of good stuff gets buried in these pages - unfortunately.

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Ejoslin, I'm guessing the Leliana hicup (I know how men are with their women) is not something that is fixable is it? I checked the conversation, and it seems there isn't any female specific "hey, it's you or her" dialogue. I could be wrong. It happened before, you know.

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Sabriana wrote...

Oh, I see. I've never had an elf/Zevran hook-up. I can certainly see that now. Yes, the elves would have a great way to integrate Awakenings and the separation when it comes to the epilogue card.

Jenovan, I'm not a fanfic.... er, fan, and I don't usually like m/m f/f stories. No, not because of any kind of homophobia, but because I *really, really like* the f/m .... ah... hot stuff. The others just don't do much for me

However, you have succeeded in making me like your stories. Perhaps because I've such a crush on Alessar myself, lol.

I haven't gotten around to Tellervo's and Sresla's stuff yet, but I will. I know Tellervo has his stuff on LJ. He even had a link posted to the site. Pages and pages ago... *sigh*


Everyone has a crush on Alessar.  If they weren't mutually exclusive, I think Cadryn would have a crush on Alessar, in that angry too much in common kind of way.  And there's a link in my signature if you're actually interested in reading it, but I must warn you... some spiciness, if that's not your thing.

ejoslin wrote...

 Ok, I THINK I fixed the slideshow with
the male character getting the female card if in love with Zevran and
choosing to travel.  Can anyone with a male character at the end either
test it or send me a copy of their save at the arch demon battle?  I
can't believe this hasn't been fixed already, though.  But... if it
hasn't, and if this works, I'll put it up at DA nexus!  Linky to my
project.


I actually can't test anything immediately... on my EEE!, not my PC, and DA would give the EEE! an aneurysm.  I think it has been fixed, but I'm not certain... I'll play through without the fix to check when I get back to my PC.

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Sabriana wrote...

Ejoslin, I'm guessing the Leliana hicup (I know how men are with their women) is not something that is fixable is it? I checked the conversation, and it seems there isn't any female specific "hey, it's you or her" dialogue. I could be wrong. It happened before, you know.


No, I looked for that, and there are definitely no other alternatives.  Hmmmm, actually I'll check for something else as well.  I hate messing with that particular file since it not only messes with DT (not a big deal) but also with Charsen's ZevRing mod.

Edit: I can see one thing to do, though I'm not sure it's better or worse.  That is, always have the variant where Zevran and the warden hasn't been to the tent.

Zevran: Our flirtation has been fun, but if what you and Leliana have is real perhaps it would be best if we desisted. Complication avoided, everyone is happy.

That probably is better.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 avril 2010 - 03:23 .


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Tellervo wrote...

I actually can't test anything immediately... on my EEE!, not my PC, and DA would give the EEE! an aneurysm.  I think it has been fixed, but I'm not certain... I'll play through without the fix to check when I get back to my PC.


Oh, excellent.  Thank you so much.  It definitely has not been fixed in the .dlg file, but maybe they fixed it at a lower level (though I don't see how, truthfully).  Or maybe people just stopped complaining about it, which is what I'm considering most likely.

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ejoslin wrote...

 Ok, I THINK I fixed the slideshow with the male character getting the female card if in love with Zevran and choosing to travel.  Can anyone with a male character at the end either test it or send me a copy of their save at the arch demon battle?  I can't believe this hasn't been fixed already, though.  But... if it hasn't, and if this works, I'll put it up at DA nexus!  Linky to my project.

Edit: I have no way of checking whether the bug is fixed or not, unfortunately.  It does not look like it is, but I don't have a male character there.


I'll have a look with my male character to see if the bug is still there.   I'll have to fight the archdemon again, won't I?  So I may be some time!

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Sannox, if you have a save at the arch demon fight, you can send that to me. OR if you use the console, the command "runscript killallhostiles" (without the quotes) immediately ends the battle.

Edit: And I really REALLY appreciate this.  If its not fixed, it's inexcusable, because it is SO easy.

Modifié par ejoslin, 06 avril 2010 - 03:25 .


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Sabriana wrote...

Jenovan, I'm not a fanfic.... er, fan, and I don't usually like m/m f/f stories. No, not because of any kind of homophobia, but because I *really, really like* the f/m .... ah... hot stuff. The others just don't do much for me

However, you have succeeded in making me like your stories. Perhaps because I've such a crush on Alessar myself, lol.

I haven't gotten around to Tellervo's and Sresla's stuff yet, but I will. I know Tellervo has his stuff on LJ. He even had a link posted to the site. Pages and pages ago... *sigh*

D'awww, thanks!  Posted Image  I know slash (of either gender) isn't everyone's cuppa, but, well. XD

Tellervo's is linked on the group's fanfic list (not the top post, but further down in the topic, I think)... Sresla's taken his offline for now. Posted Image

soignee wrote...

I've written Missa/Zevran sexytiems in my fanfic >.>
It makes sense as Missa Brosca is a duster who is used to taking pleasures when she can and thinks that love **** her sister always dreamt about is a crock of bronto dung. So her and Zevran have to find a way to, uh, "talk," intially in the relationship. What? It's a kind of communication, body language. What you on about?

I think that mode of communication makes perfect sense for Zevran.  Seriously. Posted Image
(arrrgh, FF.net, how I hate you so... preventing me from reading awesomeness when I have the free time to do so...)

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I think it depends on the characters whether I can enjoy fanfic or not, Tellervo. Alessar..., well, what can I say. He's simply marvelous.

But I do like your Cadryn. He's the red-head, right? I also like Missa, so I'm guessing it definitely has to do with me liking the character. The love, as in the emotion, I make no differences there, but the 'spicy' has me a bit bored, simply because I'm so very partial to f/m 'spiciness', lol.

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(LOL, o hai, Sresla already added Dead Duster Walking to the group fic list. Yay! ;D)


Tellervo wrote...

Everyone has a crush on Alessar.  If they weren't mutually exclusive, I think Cadryn would have a crush on Alessar, in that angry too much in common kind of way. 

.... that makes for some very strange mental imagery....
.... Zevran would approve, I think. Posted Image


@ejoslin, I'd test if I could, but I imagine someone will have tried it out long before I get home and am able to.

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Sresla's taken his offline for now. Posted Image

*gives Sresla a Wynne look*  What is the meaning of this?

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Sabriana wrote...

I think it depends on the characters whether I can enjoy fanfic or not, Tellervo. Alessar..., well, what can I say. He's simply marvelous.
But I do like your Cadryn. He's the red-head, right? I also like Missa, so I'm guessing it definitely has to do with me liking the character. The love, as in the emotion, I make no differences there, but the 'spicy' has me a bit bored, simply because I'm so very partial to f/m 'spiciness', lol.


I have a lot of trouble writing PWP, so anything actually included in "Chains" or "Nations and Ages" is guaranteed to be important to the relationship....  I have written a bit of PWP for the kink meme, and failed at anon, so it's floating around, but its an entirely seperate thing from "Chains".

Yes, Cadryn is the read-head, because there's no good auburn tint in any mod I've found.

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Creature 1 wrote...

jenovan wrote...
Sresla's taken his offline for now. Posted Image

*gives Sresla a Wynne look*  What is the meaning of this?


Agreed.

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Ohhh, relationships. Now that I love. That's good to hear. I have no idea what PWP means. You silly Americans...B)

Yay for the Duster story being added. +25 for Sresla. Even though he's pulled his stories for reasons only known to himself.

And I still blame Creature for "Pride and Prejudice" popping up all around me lately, sheeesh. :lol:

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I love this thread, I'm tempted to start a We Are Rediculously Awesome art ...thing, or something. Anyone else draw? We could do a Bad Ass Action Shot of all our wardens together, like we all add to it. Zevran can be offscreen grinning furiously and counting his blessings, or something. MY DEARS, COULD YOU BE MORE NAKED? YES?

*ETA* oh thanks for adding me! I fail so hard at tachnologeeeee. ejosin and charsen had to write instructions in crayon for me to work out how to access the conversations in the toolset >.>. Even photoshop is too hard for me.

Modifié par soignee, 06 avril 2010 - 03:44 .