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[Nonvita]

TripLight wrote...

jenovan wrote...
Who'da thunk the thread dedicated to that cold-blooded, amoral murdering **** is a bastion of sanity? 

Great minds think alike.:innocent:

Sometimes it takes a great deal of insanity to keep people sane.


And I know the romance thread isn't as scary as it could be, but there's still so so so much to WTF at...

Ug, top of the page. It's not Zevran, but this seems fitting.

Modifié par Nonvita, 07 avril 2010 - 09:34 .

[SurrealSadi]

Tellervo wrote...

jenovan wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

I give up on trying to keep up with this thread. You guys hurt my brainmeats.

But we love you! 

@sami jo -- that is some creepy, messed-up ****.  I thought these forums were relatively calm, but uh... maybe not.

*hides in here*  Who'da thunk the thread dedicated to that cold-blooded, amoral murdering **** is a bastion of sanity? 

If I tried to keep up with this thread, I'd never have time to do any writing.  Or cleaning.  Or anything.

So, do what I do. Post and read when you get a chance, Bookmark the last page you were on/last post you made, and pick up there next time :happy:

[ejoslin]

SurrealSadi wrote...

Now you guys scare me. I know you love annoying trolls, but that's something that goes totally against my nature *is pretty passive aggressive*

Surreal, I'm awful that way. I find people getting upset over nonsense a very funny thing. Having a mean sense of humor is not the best thing in the world I suppose.  But on the internet, people just get SO worked up over silly stuff; it's hard to NOT find it funny at times.

[Cuddlezarro]

well I just posted a post in sexless love thread that should rile alistair fangirls up

[ejoslin]

TripLight wrote...

jenovan wrote...
But we love you! 

@sami jo -- that is some creepy, messed-up ****.  I thought these forums were relatively calm, but uh... maybe not.

*hides in here*  Who'da thunk the thread dedicated to that cold-blooded, amoral murdering **** is a bastion of sanity? 

Great minds think alike.:innocent:

Edit: BTW, has anyone here ran a utility rogue build? If so, how did you like it? I am thinking about making my Brosca utility.

What does utility rogue mean? I do a cunning dw rogue and that does all the utility I need.  

[Tellervo]

CZ... you're a horrible person. I approve.

[Nonvita]

By the way, the comments about Wynne do not sound like joking at all.

Also I love you forever, CZ. What kind of cookies/baked treats would you like?

Modifié par Nonvita, 07 avril 2010 - 09:39 .

[TripLight]

SurrealSadi wrote...

Oh, I know Cuddle, I'm just... mildly paranoid.

Trip, I make all my rogues with the Deft Hands tree. I refuse to play a rogue without that tree. Since you spam Cunning on a DW rogue, it helps, and with a Ranger rogue, it's just smart to get at least enough Cunning (roughly 30) to get all the Deft Hand tree and have plenty of Cunning to pick all locks/doors.

Hmm, so this is a dex/cun build? I was actually thinking about filling out all the rogue trees to get the achievement. I am going to hafta read up on this, but I play on easy always so it shouldnt be difficult.

Edit* Just read the romance without sex thread and I second Nonvita'a:sick: about the Wynne comment.

Second Edit @ejoslin, I meant focusing on stealth and locking picking, lol I shoulda just typed "scout"

Modifié par TripLight, 07 avril 2010 - 09:41 .

[SurrealSadi]

Oh, I understand totally. I'm just... strange.



I saw that post, Cuddle. Thank you Maybe that rabid Ali-fan I've started an argument with will see that and latch on to you instead

[Cuddlezarro]

Tellervo wrote...

CZ... you're a horrible person. I approve.

well I am evil...and gay does that make me extra evil?

im hoping for some lulzy replies

[jenovan]

Tellervo wrote...

If I tried to keep up with this thread, I'd never have time to do any writing.  Or cleaning.  Or anything.

Ahh... this is what I do when I'm supposed to be writing but have nothing to write... which is far too frequently lately...  Catching up on what happened overnight is easy, though, if you skip the NSFW. XD

*high fives all around for the general awesomeness of this place*


Oh good lord, now I have to go see what CZ posted...

[Tellervo]

jenovan wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

If I tried to keep up with this thread, I'd never have time to do any writing.  Or cleaning.  Or anything.

Ahh... this is what I do when I'm supposed to be writing but have nothing to write... which is far too frequently lately...  Catching up on what happened overnight is easy, though, if you skip the NSFW. XD

*high fives all around for the general awesomeness of this place*


Oh good lord, now I have to go see what CZ posted...

But I like the NSFW!  Especially if it's wrong.  I honestly don't think I've ever fapped to anything I've seen related to this game....  And my "night" is actually morning, when posting picks up again.

[Cuddlezarro]

Tellervo if you want NSFW you should see the screenshots of Xander and Zevran I have in this thread



oh so very NSFW

[SurrealSadi]

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Oh, I know Cuddle, I'm just... mildly paranoid.

Trip, I make all my rogues with the Deft Hands tree. I refuse to play a rogue without that tree. Since you spam Cunning on a DW rogue, it helps, and with a Ranger rogue, it's just smart to get at least enough Cunning (roughly 30) to get all the Deft Hand tree and have plenty of Cunning to pick all locks/doors.

Hmm, so this is a dex/cun build? I was actually thinking about filling out all the rogue trees to get the achievement. I am going to hafta read up on this, but I play on easy always so it shouldnt be difficult.

Well, if it's DW, it's 32/36 Dex, depending on if you want to max out Duel-Wield Weapon training, 20 Strength for Armor, 20 Willpower so you can use the few sustainables a DW rogue LOVES, then the rest just dumped into Cunning. You want to take Lethality as soon as you have access to it. I use a guide for DW Rogues, but I ignore some of the skills to grab up Deft Hands. Here's a link to the Guide I use.

If its Ranged, it's the same 20 in Str for Armor, 30 Willpower for Sustainables and skills, 30ish Cunning for Deft Hands, then just pump Dex.

[ejoslin]

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Oh, I know Cuddle, I'm just... mildly paranoid.

Trip, I make all my rogues with the Deft Hands tree. I refuse to play a rogue without that tree. Since you spam Cunning on a DW rogue, it helps, and with a Ranger rogue, it's just smart to get at least enough Cunning (roughly 30) to get all the Deft Hand tree and have plenty of Cunning to pick all locks/doors.

Hmm, so this is a dex/cun build? I was actually thinking about filling out all the rogue trees to get the achievement. I am going to hafta read up on this, but I play on easy always so it shouldnt be difficult.

Edit* Just read the romance without sex thread and I second Nonvita'a:sick: about the Wynne comment.

Second Edit @ejoslin, I meant focusing on stealth and locking picking, lol I shoulda just typed "scout"

High cunning takes care of lock picking -- 60 means you only need one level, which frees up the rest for stealth.  I always play a cunning rogue who has lots of utility; she does amazing damage as well.

Edit: I never go beyond three levels in the DW tree, and usually only get momentum, riposte, and then 2 or 3 on the top part of that tree.  Punisher and whirlwind are better for DW warriors anyway.

Modifié par ejoslin, 07 avril 2010 - 09:44 .

[SurrealSadi]

ejoslin wrote...

TripLight wrote...

jenovan wrote...
But we love you! 

@sami jo -- that is some creepy, messed-up ****.  I thought these forums were relatively calm, but uh... maybe not.

*hides in here*  Who'da thunk the thread dedicated to that cold-blooded, amoral murdering **** is a bastion of sanity? 

Great minds think alike.:innocent:

Edit: BTW, has anyone here ran a utility rogue build? If so, how did you like it? I am thinking about making my Brosca utility.

What does utility rogue mean? I do a cunning dw rogue and that does all the utility I need.  

Utility Rogue is basically a rogue that can kill upclose, range and open shyte

[Sannox]

Addai67 wrote...

Sannox wrote...

Because I still can't find my way around the toolset, I played that little bit again. I couldn't get him to lose approval no matter how many times I asked him to the tent, and he never yelled at me for asking. I played about with his approval by using a feast onion, but still no approval loss.

I didn't say that Zevran gives an approval loss, only that he yells at you.  I'm looking at it more from a story perspective.  To me, his yelling (and Morrigan's, which is pretty harsh as well) feels pretty hurtful.  Of course, your PC could see through it and understand a bit of what's going on, but if I chose to see it as negatively as you seem to want to interpret Ali's refusal, you could say that your PC and Zevran just had a deep discussion about your friendship and are closer than you've ever been, but suddenly he's telling you that you shouldn't be focusing on him and he doesn't even want to talk to you about why.  It's a big WTF moment.  Or that's how I see it.

I thought somebody mentioned a Zevran approval loss, but maybe it was just me going on about Alistair's approval loss!  It was the approval loss that really got me wound up.  

But it's funny how people have different reactions.  I had a strong emotional reaction in both cases - I know it's just game mechanics, but I still feel it!    I didn't want to interpret Alistair's refusal badly -  at that time I thought my character had a bond with him.   But it certainly felt bad, and it's difficult to see the character in the same light again. 

With Zevran, I just didn't feel that way at all when he refused.   It doesn't come across as yelling to me when he refuses if you keep asking.. ('No, no ....).  His voice is soft.   And then there's all the history there - you know how devoted he is.  And he doesn't continue to refuse, if you say he seems different - he will explain and will stop refusing.  And apologise.  It just feels so different to me.  

I find it difficult to play through a new game without having the old ones in the back of my mind.   One day I'll try to play through avoiding that conversation with Alistair.  But it's difficult - that and Loghain.  The Coonnor thing hasn't come for me, because I've always used the mages, so it doesn't bother me.

[TripLight]

SurrealSadi wrote...

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Oh, I know Cuddle, I'm just... mildly paranoid.

Trip, I make all my rogues with the Deft Hands tree. I refuse to play a rogue without that tree. Since you spam Cunning on a DW rogue, it helps, and with a Ranger rogue, it's just smart to get at least enough Cunning (roughly 30) to get all the Deft Hand tree and have plenty of Cunning to pick all locks/doors.

Hmm, so this is a dex/cun build? I was actually thinking about filling out all the rogue trees to get the achievement. I am going to hafta read up on this, but I play on easy always so it shouldnt be difficult.

Well, if it's DW, it's 32/36 Dex, depending on if you want to max out Duel-Wield Weapon training, 20 Strength for Armor, 20 Willpower so you can use the few sustainables a DW rogue LOVES, then the rest just dumped into Cunning. You want to take Lethality as soon as you have access to it. I use a guide for DW Rogues, but I ignore some of the skills to grab up Deft Hands. Here's a link to the Guide I use.

If its Ranged, it's the same 20 in Str for Armor, 30 Willpower for Sustainables and skills, 30ish Cunning for Deft Hands, then just pump Dex.

I am going to stick with DW with my Brosca, so thanks for the linkage! The Prima guide only describes 3 builds for each class, and there is so much more you can do. ><

[ejoslin]

Hmmm, my cunning rogues use bombs but not ranged weapons. Rangers need to fill out their entire tree to be their most effective, DW rogues need to only go up 2-3 levels for riposte and momentum.

[Cuddlezarro]

my current Brosca is a dex rogue...then again hes an archer~

[SurrealSadi]

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

TripLight wrote...

SurrealSadi wrote...

Oh, I know Cuddle, I'm just... mildly paranoid.

Trip, I make all my rogues with the Deft Hands tree. I refuse to play a rogue without that tree. Since you spam Cunning on a DW rogue, it helps, and with a Ranger rogue, it's just smart to get at least enough Cunning (roughly 30) to get all the Deft Hand tree and have plenty of Cunning to pick all locks/doors.

Hmm, so this is a dex/cun build? I was actually thinking about filling out all the rogue trees to get the achievement. I am going to hafta read up on this, but I play on easy always so it shouldnt be difficult.

Well, if it's DW, it's 32/36 Dex, depending on if you want to max out Duel-Wield Weapon training, 20 Strength for Armor, 20 Willpower so you can use the few sustainables a DW rogue LOVES, then the rest just dumped into Cunning. You want to take Lethality as soon as you have access to it. I use a guide for DW Rogues, but I ignore some of the skills to grab up Deft Hands. Here's a link to the Guide I use.

If its Ranged, it's the same 20 in Str for Armor, 30 Willpower for Sustainables and skills, 30ish Cunning for Deft Hands, then just pump Dex.

I am going to stick with DW with my Brosca, so thanks for the linkage! The Prima guide only describes 3 builds for each class, and there is so much more you can do. ><

You are quite welcome! I love that Guide, it's well thought-out, and gives a lot of good arguments for why the way the Writer set up a specific build works very well. I used that guide when I made my first character, a 2H Dalish girl. Was very helpful.

[Tellervo]

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Tellervo if you want NSFW you should see the screenshots of Xander and Zevran I have in this thread

oh so very NSFW

I've seen most of them.  I lurked for a while.

[Addai]

I build all-around rogues as well, though I didn't know they were called "utility." I just like being versatile. A rogue will be a decent archer without any archery talents at all, and I hate being locked out of chests so lockpick is a must as my rogues go.

[Nonvita]

Sannox wrote...

I thought somebody mentioned a Zevran approval loss, but maybe it was just me going on about Alistair's approval loss!  It was the approval loss that really got me wound up. 

Oh, I mentioned it. But that was in relation to the massage offer, which would be the equivalent of Alistair's tent offer. You can lose approval with Zevran in that rather easily, so it is similar to Alistair. That's all I was trying to say, but I'm feeling too creeped out by the scary Alistair fangirls to argue the point at the moment.

[TripLight]

ejoslin wrote...

Hmmm, my cunning rogues use bombs but not ranged weapons. Rangers need to fill out their entire tree to be their most effective, DW rogues need to only go up 2-3 levels for riposte and momentum.

Yep, those trees are getting filled as soon as possible as well. I am also sticking her with Ranger and Bard specilizations because well I have never used those before in a pc build, so its high time I tried.

@ Addai, I've read it being named utility, but its really just scout

Modifié par TripLight, 07 avril 2010 - 09:54 .