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#16501
TripLight

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Nonvita wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
I find that kind of sassy pretty hot, Herr Uhl :wub:


I always find Herr Uhl sexy. :wub:


He must take lessons from Sten, or Sten takes lessons from him, either way:wub:

Edit: I don't care, I love Coelasquid!

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This thread is a little scary sometimes, but it's a good scary!

EDIT:

TripLight wrote...
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Sten's concentrating expression never fails to crack me the @#$% up on that one. XD

GRINDING IS SERIOUS BUSINESS.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 08 avril 2010 - 02:22 .


#16503
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TripLight wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
I find that kind of sassy pretty hot, Herr Uhl :wub:


I always find Herr Uhl sexy. :wub:


He must take lessons from Sten, or Sten takes lessons from him, either way:wub:


*hides from the presumably much older women*

And Sten is my one true soulmate.

#16504
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Herr Uhl wrote...

*hides from the presumably much older women*

And Sten is my one true soulmate.


26 is old? I still get carded everytime I buy beer:crying:

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Herr Uhl wrote...

*hides from the presumably much older women*

And Sten is my one true soulmate.


Are you 12 or something? :huh:


(I'm barely legal to buy beer...)

(And TL, that's still one of my favorite fanarts. :lol:)

Modifié par Nonvita, 08 avril 2010 - 02:22 .


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Gah, I'm safely married. But bossy is always fun anyway!

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I've been thinking (dangerous, I know)... about the intentions when Zev offers the massage.
Reading through some of the Zev-hate threads it seems to me that my take on what is happening with that scenario is different to how a lot of other people see it.

When I play and the offer of the massage comes up, I don't view it as Zevran wanting sex. When the Warden accepts his oath he makes it very clear that he will provide whatever services he can to help the Warden. Ok, so he mentions polishing armor etc and doesn't add, "stress relief" in his list of accomplishments, but even so, its easy to see his lines in the massage convo as him recognising that the Warden is tired, stressed, and he wants to help. 
Nobody else gives the Warden any respite from responsibilities.He just sees that the Warden needs some R&R and offers to provide it. The dialogue intimates that should the Warden want to stick with just a massage, that will be ok too.

Others may see this as Zevran being opportunistic and going after casual sex. I see it as him offering to help the Warden relax with a massage since this is a skill he has and a service he can offer. If casual sex is also of interest, then he's happy to oblige with this as well.

Does the toolset indicate anything different (I can't check) or am I just reading this dialogue wrong?

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me too. But I dress like a teeanger still, appparently. I get carded every time I buy booze. EVERYTIME.

Goddamit let me rot my liver in peace, stupid policies

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Oh, if Zevran is offering the massage, there is nothing casual about the sex. He's at adore. Hold on, I have the toolset up, I'll edit this message in a minute.

Edit: The notes all just say, "seductive."  Except when they say, "easy come, easy go."  But that is how his voice is supposed to sound.

Second edit: Hmmmm, bubble burst maybe?

Warden (fem): You must be joking.
Zevran: Do you see me laughing? This need be no complex thing. You are a beautiful and fascinating woman. I am... well, I am who I am. Is there any reason not to enjoy each others' company? (serious, seductive -- he believes he is being perfectly reasonable)
Warden: A great many reasons, actually.
Zevran: I see. Well, there's no arguing with that, is there? I apologize if my offer was... inappropriate. (disappointed but not very) (SET: APP_ZEVRAN_DEC_HIGH)

And that's a breakup!  

Modifié par ejoslin, 08 avril 2010 - 02:28 .


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Nonvita wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

*hides from the presumably much older women*

And Sten is my one true soulmate.


Are you 12 or something? :huh:


Yes ^_^

No, but most women I know of here have kids my age.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

*hides from the presumably much older women*

And Sten is my one true soulmate.


Are you 12 or something? :huh:


Yes ^_^

No, but most women I know of here have kids my age.


I have 12 year old twins -- but they're my oldest.

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ejoslin wrote...

Oh, if Zevran is offering the massage, there is nothing casual about the sex. He's at adore. Hold on, I have the toolset up, I'll edit this message in a minute.


see I rp'd the casual sex as a language my brosca could onlty understand until she could work out her feelings. And the +1 amused me.

One of my wives got his approval to +100 by that in one sitting, luls. "Agaaaaaaaaaaain? what willt he others think?"

Modifié par soignee, 08 avril 2010 - 02:27 .


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soignee wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Oh, if Zevran is offering the massage, there is nothing casual about the sex. He's at adore. Hold on, I have the toolset up, I'll edit this message in a minute.


see I rp'd the casual sex as a language my brosca could onlty understand until she could work out her feelings. And the +1 amused me.

One of my wives got his approval to +100 by that in one sitting, luls. "Agaaaaaaaaaaain? what willt he others think?"


Hah, I love it!  I can think of worse ways of spending an hour or so :wub:

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Elps wrote...

I've been thinking (dangerous, I know)... about the intentions when Zev offers the massage.
Reading through some of the Zev-hate threads it seems to me that my take on what is happening with that scenario is different to how a lot of other people see it.

When I play and the offer of the massage comes up, I don't view it as Zevran wanting sex. When the Warden accepts his oath he makes it very clear that he will provide whatever services he can to help the Warden. Ok, so he mentions polishing armor etc and doesn't add, "stress relief" in his list of accomplishments, but even so, its easy to see his lines in the massage convo as him recognising that the Warden is tired, stressed, and he wants to help. 
Nobody else gives the Warden any respite from responsibilities.He just sees that the Warden needs some R&R and offers to provide it. The dialogue intimates that should the Warden want to stick with just a massage, that will be ok too.

Others may see this as Zevran being opportunistic and going after casual sex. I see it as him offering to help the Warden relax with a massage since this is a skill he has and a service he can offer. If casual sex is also of interest, then he's happy to oblige with this as well.

Does the toolset indicate anything different (I can't check) or am I just reading this dialogue wrong?


Game-mechanics-wise, he is asking the Warden to bed the same way all of the LIs do (and at the same approval as Al and I think Morri).  The way he offers it, honestly, it's my favorite of the tent offers.  There is a line (femWarden only, I think) in which he says that nothing she doesn't want to happen will happen; and with a male Warden he tries to reassure him that he(Zev) will make certain that it feels wonderful.  In all cases, yes, I agree with you.  He is just trying to make the Warden feel good and is offering one of the few things he feels he has to offer.  He sounds to me, in most conversations, as if he really doesn't think he has more to offer anyone than killing things and sex.  He even downplays his own right to hold an opinion when he argues with a decision the Warden is making. 

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ejoslin wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Are you 12 or something? :huh:


Yes ^_^

No, but most women I know of here have kids my age.


I have 12 year old twins -- but they're my oldest.


...mentioning that your kids boyfriends were hot just took an ugly turn. Or she dates older boys.

I'll stand over here now :whistle:

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Yes ^_^

No, but most women I know of here have kids my age.


Well we have them around here, too. *points at ejoslin* But there are still plenty of us youthful females around here, so you shouldn't go dismissing our attentions so quickly! :lol:

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Leli and Ali both offer at 91+ love.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

*hides from the presumably much older women*

And Sten is my one true soulmate.


Are you 12 or something? :huh:


Yes ^_^

No, but most women I know of here have kids my age.


Well, mine is 15, but I was a young mom.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Are you 12 or something? :huh:


Yes ^_^

No, but most women I know of here have kids my age.


I have 12 year old twins -- but they're my oldest.


...mentioning that your kids boyfriends were hot just took an ugly turn. Or she dates older boys.

I'll stand over here now :whistle:


OMG, no! I do NOT think my daughter's bfriends are hot @@  That was my point. NOT HOT!  Too young!  They're babies :sick:

Edit: I feel grossed out over that actually!  Hah!  I guess I'm not as clear about things as I thought.

Second edit: And definitely FAR more brain dead!

Modifié par ejoslin, 08 avril 2010 - 02:33 .


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Nonvita wrote...

TheLiterator wrote...

I'm kind of a baked-goods prude. How about I bake for all y'all, so I don't have to pretend to like cake that's too dry or something? :D


Ohoho! Excuse me?! You clearly have not tried any baked goods around here. Do not doubt the magical creations we are capable of concocting! Now be good and take your cookies. :devil:


Nonvita makes my favorite virtual cookies that make me sleepy faced and easily amused. :wub:

and Sami makes me virtual spaghetti... i have had dreams of shaghetti... *can't cook, burns soup, eats mostly fruits & whole foods anyways*

this thread does have quite the food obsession i think.

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ejoslin wrote...

OMG, no! I do NOT think my daughter's bfriends are hot @@  That was my point. NOT HOT!  Too young!  They're babies :sick:

Edit: I feel grossed out over that actually!  Hah!  I guess I'm not as clear about things as I thought.


I come from the outback, so a boyfriend of a 12 year old can be anything from 10-18. If 15 we have 13-34.

So the boyfriend-thing could not have been that outlandish, even though the males in question aren't exactly prize-bulls.

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ejoslin wrote...

OMG, no! I do NOT think my daughter's
bfriends are hot @@  That was my point. NOT HOT!  Too young!  They're
babies [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/sick.png[/smilie]


Ahahaha! I'm cracking up over here! :lol:

sami jo wrote...

Elps wrote...

I've been thinking (dangerous, I know)... about the intentions when Zev offers the massage.
Reading through some of the Zev-hate threads it seems to me that my take on what is happening with that scenario is different to how a lot of other people see it.

When I play and the offer of the massage comes up, I don't view it as Zevran wanting sex. When the Warden accepts his oath he makes it very clear that he will provide whatever services he can to help the Warden. Ok, so he mentions polishing armor etc and doesn't add, "stress relief" in his list of accomplishments, but even so, its easy to see his lines in the massage convo as him recognising that the Warden is tired, stressed, and he wants to help. 
Nobody else gives the Warden any respite from responsibilities.He just sees that the Warden needs some R&R and offers to provide it. The dialogue intimates that should the Warden want to stick with just a massage, that will be ok too.

Others may see this as Zevran being opportunistic and going after casual sex. I see it as him offering to help the Warden relax with a massage since this is a skill he has and a service he can offer. If casual sex is also of interest, then he's happy to oblige with this as well.

Does the toolset indicate anything different (I can't check) or am I just reading this dialogue wrong?


Game-mechanics-wise, he is asking the Warden to bed the same way all of the LIs do (and at the same approval as Al and I think Morri).  The way he offers it, honestly, it's my favorite of the tent offers.  There is a line (femWarden only, I think) in which he says that nothing she doesn't want to happen will happen; and with a male Warden he tries to reassure him that he(Zev) will make certain that it feels wonderful.  In all cases, yes, I agree with you.  He is just trying to make the Warden feel good and is offering one of the few things he feels he has to offer.  He sounds to me, in most conversations, as if he really doesn't think he has more to offer anyone than killing things and sex.  He even downplays his own right to hold an opinion when he argues with a decision the Warden is making. 


I agree with what you say about him feeling that sex is the only thing he has to offer. You see it in his poem as well--he's trying to cheer the Warden up, but the only way he knows how is through something sexual. So yes, I think the massage is the best thing he feels he can offer to be of service to the Warden. He's trying to show that he cares in the only way he knows how.
And I adore his offer as well. He doesn't sound crude or anything in it; in fact it's quite the opposite. He's so straightforward and unabashed in what he says, and it's damn sexy. :wub:

Charsen wrote...
Nonvita makes my favorite virtual cookies
that make me sleepy faced and easily amused. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png[/smilie]

and
Sami makes me virtual spaghetti... i have had dreams of shaghetti...
*can't cook, burns soup, eats mostly fruits & whole foods anyways*

this
thread does have quite the food obsession i think.


Awww anything for you, Charsen. :wub: 
And yes, food does seem to be quite important to all of us. But why not?! Sex, food, and some sweet sweet loving are all anyone really needs, and they're in quite an abundance around here.

Modifié par Nonvita, 08 avril 2010 - 02:39 .


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This thread is amazing. The Maker help newcomers looking for solid Zev info, but as a group unto itself - seriously awesome!

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Herr Uhl wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

OMG, no! I do NOT think my daughter's bfriends are hot @@  That was my point. NOT HOT!  Too young!  They're babies :sick:

Edit: I feel grossed out over that actually!  Hah!  I guess I'm not as clear about things as I thought.


I come from the outback, so a boyfriend of a 12 year old can be anything from 10-18. If 15 we have 13-34.

So the boyfriend-thing could not have been that outlandish, even though the males in question aren't exactly prize-bulls.


If I find my 15 year old with a 34 year old, I am locking him in his room until *he* is 34.  :blink::(

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Herr Uhl wrote...

I come from the outback, so a boyfriend of a 12 year old can be anything from 10-18. If 15 we have 13-34.

So the boyfriend-thing could not have been that outlandish, even though the males in question aren't exactly prize-bulls.


And you're Australian! Now you'll never get me off of you! :wub: