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Sannox

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TripLight wrote...

I come bearing Zevran Ogre Kill Shots:ph34r: Enjoy the view up his skirt.:devil:


I wonder if you can buy a costume like that?  I want one for my boyfriend.  For private use fancy dress parties.  He's rather athletic, does a lot of running.  He has very hard thighs.  

Excuse me a moment..

ETA; Oops top of the page, so ...

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Charsen wrote...

creepy ass outtake...

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forgot to attach the scene to the dialog XD
about to hit testing phase


Why the heck are there 6 Ser Ottos, standing around naked? Inquiring minds would love to know. LOL

And DA: Redesigned Modded Sarel from the Dalish, I would totally wreck him, it has to be said.

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Sannox wrote...

TripLight wrote...

I come bearing Zevran Ogre Kill Shots:ph34r: Enjoy the view up his skirt.:devil:


I wonder if you can buy a costume like that?  I want one for my boyfriend.  For private use fancy dress parties.  He's rather athletic, does a lot of running.  He has very hard thighs.  

Excuse me a moment..

ETA; Oops top of the page, so ...

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Alter a Xena: Warrior Princess costume...:whistle:..not that I have thought about that:mellow:

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@Arohikin: Tis FATE I tell you! =D

Right after I read your newest chapter, I went to Cadash Thaig. And suddenly, there was this Ogre... and then, guess what happened. *lol* I made 28 freaking screenshots of the whole thing. Since it's this many I don't think I should post them, but if you like, I could pick out the five best or something.

I relived that chapter woman!! :D

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That pic reminds me of "Being John Malkovich".

Inquiring minds would indeed want to know why.

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oh god I see this thread moves on into weirder climates when I'm gone. Ser Ottos everywhere!

Also the internet made me read a Ser Otto story where he cross dresses. I DON'T KNOW EITHER, THE INTERNETS MADE ME DO IT

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@Sabriana- Kinda late on the draw but I'm glad your son is OK! My car got totalled a couple years back and it was a pretty traumatic event. He's lucky he has an awesome mom to take care of him. =)


TripLight wrote...

And DA: Redesigned Modded Sarel from the Dalish, I would totally wreck him, it has to be said.


Sadly, DA Redesigned makes me want to wreck just about everyone in the game... It's why I love it. :wub:


I thought I had more to say until I realized I either misread it or don't feel like typing so much. *is still sleepy and out of it*

soignee wrote...

oh god I see this thread moves on into
weirder climates when I'm gone. Ser Ottos everywhere!
Also the
internet made me read a Ser Otto story where he cross dresses. I DON'T
KNOW EITHER, THE INTERNETS MADE ME DO IT


Ah I see you have an uncontrollable clicky finger as well. Darn those muscle spasms making you click on links you totally didn't mean to!

Modifié par Nonvita, 11 avril 2010 - 04:43 .


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@Sannox we're just going to have to agree to disagree. That's the spectacular thing about this game -- so much can be read so differently.

Of course, it's not nearly as spectacular as Zevran's thighs, but ummmm... that probably isn't as funny as I think it is.

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 avril 2010 - 04:49 .


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@Arohikin: Tis FATE I tell you! =D
Right after I read your newest chapter, I went to Cadash Thaig. And suddenly, there was this Ogre... and then, guess what happened. *lol* I made 28 freaking screenshots of the whole thing. Since it's this many I don't think I should post them, but if you like, I could pick out the five best or something.
I relived that chapter woman!! :D


LOL!

Did your tank get squished like an empty soda can? XD

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that's just how templars dress, no ******



Herr Uhl that is just about perfect, haha



ok, test is fine so about to upload the new alpha build to random mods. i'll post in a sec with some of the example screens. here's the test screen with Lyna (but i don't remember who she belongs to!)



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#17861
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That be my warden! YAY, I love this picture!

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@ Charsen...:o..

That is the most beautiful screenshot you have posted thus far, and I am actually blushing now. You, my dear sir, are seriously and madly gifted.:wub:

*forgive my over use of ellipses

I can't wait till you post the mod.

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Charsen<3 you're so full of awesome! <3<3<3

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I have fraps loaded and ready to go...

Edit: I'm seriously bouncing in my chair right now!

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 avril 2010 - 04:53 .


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god I am going to explode in fangirl pieces when the dwarf one is done, aren't I?

Poor Charsen, I've heard mods weep into their gin bottle about the height/camera problems dwarves have...

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Oh yay, he is actually finishing it! (Never doubted it for one second. :whistle:)

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Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

@Arohikin: Tis FATE I tell you! =D
Right after I read your newest chapter, I went to Cadash Thaig. And suddenly, there was this Ogre... and then, guess what happened. *lol* I made 28 freaking screenshots of the whole thing. Since it's this many I don't think I should post them, but if you like, I could pick out the five best or something.
I relived that chapter woman!! :D


LOL!

Did your tank get squished like an empty soda can? XD


Sadly my PC is a rogue in this one and I didn't have Sten in the party either (although I was so close to opening the console and adding him at that moment xD), but other than that, pretty much spot-on. :lol:

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Although, with a slightly different ending... :innocent::wub:

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Coming late into the discussion about whether or not Zevran is amoral. I believe he is most definitely amoral. He is neither moral, nor immoral, and his dialogue throughout the game reflects that. Outside of the romance storyline, everything he says reflects his opinion on what is necessary. He is both amoral and pragmatic.

When he talks to Alistair about asking The Maker's forgiveness I don't believe this for a moment. Given his past, when would he have ever learned the Chantry's teachings? Children living in w/houses are not likely to be given a religious upbringing and the Crows sure wouldn't want religious assassins. I feel this is more likely just a wind-up to taunt Alistair.

He can see the usefulness of the Anvil, and in RtO he disapproves of wasting time on a funeral for Cailan. I know others think this is out of character but, to me, its completely in character for someone who inflicts death and moves on quickly. Hanging around in a darkspawn lair to cremate a corpse is a non-productive waste of time that could put the party in danger if darkspawn reappeared. The dead body doesn't care what happens to it. Any death in the w/house would have been quickly dealt with so it didn't interfere with business and any deaths among the Crows would have been treated very lightly (if acknowledged at all). Note - even though he was very close to Taleisin he just walked away from the body. That does not mean he would not feel regret, but I can imagine him seeing the end result of a killing as irrelevant.

Zevran does have capacity for compassion & caring, but this is very different to morality. He doesn't like killing innocents, but it happens and he won't lose sleep over it.

He is, first and foremost, an assassin who loves the act of killing. He is proud of his craft and of the fact that he has been trained well. He doesn't like to be called a murderer (which is an immoral act). The Crows have honor, but not morality, and keep their word. Zevran also keeps his oath (unless he finds you unworthy of it).

That's my take on him anyway, and one of the reasons I think he is the best character in the game.:wub:

 

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EF + Zevran Kiss for Ejoslin's Gatefix mod
22 seconds + 8 second dead black fade out

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currently using an older version of EJ's gatefix but I will fix this for the first full beta release (when i finish dwarves)

-- download the EF_gatekiss.rar from my Random Mods project here
-- alpha build now includes all sex/race combos with Zevran except dwarves (HM/HF/EM/EF) but this is still "alpha" so it is only for testing and screenshot happystuff

i know there is still some clipping with some face shapes. hope to touch this up when i go thru and polish them all after alpha phase.

yes soignee, dwarves next.. XD

PS love the awesome Zev jumps you caught there Kaioku!

Modifié par Charsen, 11 avril 2010 - 05:19 .


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Those are just beautiful Charsen - ridiculously awesome!

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Elps wrote...

When he talks to Alistair about asking The Maker's forgiveness I don't believe this for a moment. Given his past, when would he have ever learned the Chantry's teachings? Children living in w/houses are not likely to be given a religious upbringing and the Crows sure wouldn't want religious assassins. I feel this is more likely just a wind-up to taunt Alistair.

 


I disagree on this point. The Crows can sort of be thought of like the Italian mafia, which is/was very heavily invested in the Catholic faith yet still did many terrible things. Religion and organizations like this don't have to be mutually exclusive, and it's likely that religion is a big part of life in Antiva for everyone. Zevran's level of spirituality/faith can be debated, but I do think it's there and not just a joke.

That said, he can still be amoral and I'd agree that he is.


Edit: Weeee *loads up Bootcamp* Yay, Charsen! :wub:

Modifié par Nonvita, 11 avril 2010 - 05:22 .


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Elps wrote...

Given his past, when would he have ever learned the Chantry's teachings? Children living in w/houses are not likely to be given a religious upbringing and the Crows sure wouldn't want religious assassins. I feel this is more likely just a wind-up to taunt Alistair.

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That's my take on him anyway, and one of the reasons I think he is the best character in the game.:wub:

 


He does say that he went to the chantry as a child, rather defensively so, when he states a couple of facts about Andraste's life during the Urn of Sacred Ashes quest, (which he does on more than one occasion even) though... *whispers quietly and expects to be ninja'ed anyway*

The second part of the quote I absolutely agree with. :wizard:

Edit: @ Charsen: Why thank you, don't make me blush! Screenshot-praise from the master of modding himself, that's a little... wow. :D
I'm just going to second all the squee and platonic love-declarations regarding your amazing work at this point :wub:<3 Thank you for doing this!

Modifié par Kaioku, 11 avril 2010 - 05:26 .


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Wow, that's incredibly tender. So sad :(

Edit: I'm uploading to youtube, but it's going to take about an hour.  It's very important that it's HD!

Another edit: I love the way Zevran is holding her.  *sigh*  It is beautiful.

Third edit: This IS an old version of ZDF.  Charsen, I promise you the later ones are far better.  This one was very much a kludge.

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 avril 2010 - 05:32 .


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Nonvita wrote...

I disagree on this point. The Crows can sort of be thought of like the Italian mafia, which is/was very heavily invested in the Catholic faith yet still did many terrible things. Religion and organizations like this don't have to be mutually exclusive, and it's likely that religion is a big part of life in Antiva for everyone. Zevran's level of spirituality/faith can be debated, but I do think it's there and not just a joke.

That said, he can still be amoral and I'd agree that he is.


I agree with Nonvita... Zevran knows the the Chantry and canticles of the Light very well... Now, if he believes in them all is debatable. I don't find him agreeing with the Chantry's moral code and influence at all, however. Which suits my anti-religious dwarf just fine!

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Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

@Arohikin: Tis FATE I tell you! =D
Right after I read your newest chapter, I went to Cadash Thaig. And suddenly, there was this Ogre... and then, guess what happened. *lol* I made 28 freaking screenshots of the whole thing. Since it's this many I don't think I should post them, but if you like, I could pick out the five best or something.
I relived that chapter woman!! :D


LOL!

Did your tank get squished like an empty soda can? XD


Sadly my PC is a rogue in this one and I didn't have Sten in the party either (although I was so close to opening the console and adding him at that moment xD), but other than that, pretty much spot-on. :lol:

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Although, with a slightly different ending... :innocent::wub:

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I lol'd IRL, and I think I scared my cat.

Most excellent. XDDD

Edit Ha! is that Zev doing the face-jump I see in one shot? That is kind of eerie. XD

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