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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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soignee wrote...


Nonvita wrote...

I disagree on this point. The Crows can sort of be thought of like the Italian mafia, which is/was very heavily invested in the Catholic faith yet still did many terrible things. Religion and organizations like this don't have to be mutually exclusive, and it's likely that religion is a big part of life in Antiva for everyone. Zevran's level of spirituality/faith can be debated, but I do think it's there and not just a joke.

That said, he can still be amoral and I'd agree that he is.


I agree with Nonvita... Zevran knows the the Chantry and canticles of the Light very well... Now, if he believes in them all is debatable. I don't find him agreeing with the Chantry's moral code and influence at all, however. Which suits my anti-religious dwarf just fine!


I haven't yet got those comments about him going to the Chantry as a child, so stand corrected there. I still don't believe he's religious though, especially as most of his companion dialogue is teasing. BUT, Zevran is a very knowledgeable fellow and I imagine knowledge of the canticles could be very useful in getting close to a mark ;)
 
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#17877
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Ooh, elf-kiss! I wonder how much I can play with the Console to get Alley to the gates prematurely in a separate save. All in the name of testing, of course. That nose, you know, it's pesky that way. Lots of testing needed.

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Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

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@Arohikin: Tis FATE I tell you! =D
Right after I read your newest chapter, I went to Cadash Thaig. And suddenly, there was this Ogre... and then, guess what happened. *lol* I made 28 freaking screenshots of the whole thing. Since it's this many I don't think I should post them, but if you like, I could pick out the five best or something.
I relived that chapter woman!! :D


LOL!

Did your tank get squished like an empty soda can? XD


Sadly my PC is a rogue in this one and I didn't have Sten in the party either (although I was so close to opening the console and adding him at that moment xD), but other than that, pretty much spot-on. :lol:

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Although, with a slightly different ending... :innocent::wub:

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I lol'd IRL, and I think I scared my cat.

Most excellent. XDDD


Hahaha, I'll consider this a win, then :lol:<3

****ing/
I'm gonna get back to my drawing now. At this rate, I gather I'll be done in three to four weeks, granted it doesn't drive me nuts or something first.
What you said about the horrid things needing to be displayed to make the good even better was very, very beautifully put. Definitely agree with you there.
And it's kind of the only thing that keeps me going right now. So depressing. Would be so easy to just do one of the lulzy comic ideas I have instead. Had I not already put in this much work, that is. <_<
Must. finish. someday.
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Edit: Whoops, your edit is not in the quote. Oh well. :D Yes ma'am, he sure is! xD

Modifié par Kaioku, 11 avril 2010 - 05:53 .


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jenovan wrote...

... omg you guys, omg.  I need to squee somewhere, and this is at least thread-relevant.


I commissioned PayRoo on deviantArt to do a little watercolor of Zevran and Alessar from this story (it's set during Satinalia), and.... well.

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*flail*

Quoting this because it's just AWESOME.

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So yesterday I spent the day with my friends, two of whom came down from their home in New York to see the few people in this area that mean anything to them before they leave for his post in Okinawa for 3 years, and their 2 cats. It was great seeing them again, though I didn't get home till 3 am, and thus didn't get any chance to play at all. And I might not get to play tonight because it's possible that my one friend and I will be going back out to that bar again. *sigh*

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Aroihkin I have some saves up in my projects if you want to see the elf kiss on a sexy dalish! Otherwise, MorGothic is the console god around here who could probably talk you through how to get there!

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you guys are too kind. definitely not a master modder though, just stubborn :blush:

oh EJ i know that party_events.dlg is from... i think your first or second revision? it's way old, but i can update it whenever you have a B2B, no rush. i am going to work on dwarves sometime tonight and am not sure how complicated they will be yet (they could even be easy), so won't need party_events for a bit. 

please let me know either in the thread or PM if there are any major clips, glitches or weirdnesses so i can polish them up for the beta. 

well surreal, have fun at the bar! zevran will wait i'm sure, but you might have to make it up to him. creatively. 

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I came out of the Fade looking like this.

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It's even creepier from the side. Yes, that's me, the big golem with horns and half a face.

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@Charsen With the long hair, there is a clip of his nose, but it's not bad at all (I think I only noticed it the third or forth time I watched it), and I'm not sure you can account for every hair style.  I really love the way you have him hold her; it looks like he'd rather die than let her go.

The final B2B is here.  It has your name on it.  I think you already have the script files; if not, they're also up there, but in the monster b2b (the "almost" complete one).  If you just want the .nss, .ncs, and .plt files, I can zip those up and put those up as well.

Edit: I'm going to make one more B2B, this one with zevran_defined.nss included, AND the files zipped up in case you don't want my scripts overwriting yours.  I'll PM you when it's up.

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 avril 2010 - 06:22 .


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afternoon folks just popping in to say hi before I get back to work~

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Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

@Arohikin: Tis FATE I tell you! =D
Right after I read your newest chapter, I went to Cadash Thaig. And suddenly, there was this Ogre... and then, guess what happened. *lol* I made 28 freaking screenshots of the whole thing. Since it's this many I don't think I should post them, but if you like, I could pick out the five best or something.
I relived that chapter woman!! :D


LOL!

Did your tank get squished like an empty soda can? XD


Sadly my PC is a rogue in this one and I didn't have Sten in the party either (although I was so close to opening the console and adding him at that moment xD), but other than that, pretty much spot-on. :lol:

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Although, with a slightly different ending... :innocent::wub:

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I lol'd IRL, and I think I scared my cat.

Most excellent. XDDD


Hahaha, I'll consider this a win, then :lol:<3

****ing/
I'm gonna get back to my drawing now. At this rate, I gather I'll be done in three to four weeks, granted it doesn't drive me nuts or something first.
What you said about the horrid things needing to be displayed to make the good even better was very, very beautifully put. Definitely agree with you there.
And it's kind of the only thing that keeps me going right now. So depressing. Would be so easy to just do one of the lulzy comic ideas I have instead. Had I not already put in this much work, that is. <_<
Must. finish. someday.
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Edit: Whoops, your edit is not in the quote. Oh well. :D Yes ma'am, he sure is! xD


I look forward to seeing it, after seeing just part of the face, so I hope you finish it! XD And yeah... I killed one of my OCs "on camera" in another fanfic just last December, rather gruesomely in fact, and had to tell myself over and over that it was for the good of the plot and would make the nice stuff nicer. Poor Tannusen. Shot full of holes and blown up to boot -- being one of my characters is hell on the complexion.

*grins* Zev gets all the awesome matrix killshots, doesn't he? That's hilarious timing. XD

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I loaded up my CE archer chick who's beaten the game and has saves all over the plot instead of playing with the Console on Alley's save, and tried out the kiss scene. Very nice, Charsen. :wub:

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Yayyy Charsen it looks great. :wub: I noticed a little clipping of the hair (like ejoslin said) and her cheekbones (but she has rather large cheekbones), but it was all very minor and didn't detract at all from the scene. (I only really noticed it in screenshots.)

A few screens because I feel like squeeing: :wub:

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Edit: Would have included more Zev sad face but Wynne in the back there got hit with the Super Duper Overheating Laptop Melty Face Stick so it's a little distracting. :blush:

Modifié par Nonvita, 11 avril 2010 - 06:22 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Aroihkin I have some saves up in my projects if you want to see the elf kiss on a sexy dalish! Otherwise, MorGothic is the console god around here who could probably talk you through how to get there!


Oh, I had a backup elf, haha. My pew pew rogue was standing by and ready! Thanks, though! XD

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Thanks Charsen! Though it all depends on if she can convince her mother to let her borrow her car....



Oh, I think I can make it up to Zev...

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I thought I was done with morality, but while I was in the Circle I came across something very apposite. It's the first time I've taken Zevran. I think I have Ejoslin's mod, but this time I wanted to have a go at killing Wynne and flirting with Cullen. I didn't get to flirt with Cullen, but anyway ... Zevran came out with this:

'Do as you like. Certainly the notions of morality brought up by a professional assassin are dubious at best, yes?'

He seems to be saying that (a) he isn't amoral and (B) his plea for the mages was about morality. Maybe he is also saying that his own morality is dubious, although I feel there is a touch of sarcasm there - he's used to people assuming his morals are dubious. (Of course, then he goes and kills Wynne ... for agreeing with him.)

So he doesn't think of himself as amoral.

Modifié par Sannox, 11 avril 2010 - 06:34 .


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Double post.  Will have to find a screenshot.


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Sexy Cullen.  Refusing to flirt.  Something about horrible deaths and mind control and stuff.  Sexy templar outfit. 

Modifié par Sannox, 11 avril 2010 - 06:26 .


#17891
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Wow, it failed after its upload.  Ok, I'll do it again, but make it slightly smaller.

Edit: The punctuation police nearly had me under arrest!  Extra apostrophes plus a missing period = very bad!

Second edit: Wow, I missed CZ's hello between all the screenies!  Gah, sorry you have to work today, but hopefully it's a GOOD day!

Modifié par ejoslin, 11 avril 2010 - 06:48 .


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Squee @ EF at gates!
Screenshot time:
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Btw, if I leave mage headgear on, it appears in cutscene - is that intentional?
There was very minor nose collision, but nothing that has to be fixed imo (looks like eskimo kiss actually).
It's super awesome, squeeworthy, tender and loving scene. Thank you, Charsen, my Warden so deserved that!:wub::wub:
 

Modifié par Minaleth, 11 avril 2010 - 07:23 .


#17893
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**** I don't have a save point for the gates :-/

It literally goes: ostagar, then jumps to the battle of the city in Denerim, just after the gates.

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF-

#17894
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Forgive me for posting this, but I saw this and nearly died laughing!

Edited to fix link *headdesks*

Modifié par SurrealSadi, 11 avril 2010 - 07:47 .


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The link isn't working for me. Now I'm aquiver with antici...... pation! What was it?

Modifié par Sannox, 11 avril 2010 - 08:02 .


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I bring you more thighs. Enjoy >;)



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It's an aimo drawing from DA... I saw it and figured people here would love it :)

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TripLight wrote...

I bring you more thighs. Enjoy >;)

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Ooo I like this one. Yay more Zev thighs! :wub:



@Aimo drawing- I love that one. :D Does Steve Valentine seriously like Twilight!? Hehe, more reason to be a Zevran fan, I suppose. *sincerely hopes Jon Curry doesn't like Twilight* >.>

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It's working for me now - I like it!  (Especially Alistair).

Modifié par Sannox, 11 avril 2010 - 07:56 .


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Even after stripping off and enlisting Duncan's help, my mage still fails to seduce Cullen. 

(I think I have too much time on my hands).

Modifié par Sannox, 11 avril 2010 - 07:59 .