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[tmp7704]

Aroihkin wrote...

Well it's not a set-in-stone rule of thumb, obviously... but the degree of difference in the game models still trips me out pretty bad. XD After watching one of my roommates tear the other one a new #@$hole over that in comic art, it really stands out to me now, haha.

It may be your friends nerdraging over something not matching their preconception have skewed your judgement, though -- the actual placement/width of shoulders on the characters isn't really very much off in comparison to these Xena pics, for example. It probably creates much worse impression because the limbs on the models are extremely scrawny, and the default pose has them unnaturaly angled away from the body, much more than how people normally keep their arms.

But google pictures of females who actually do work out to similar degree a DA character would -- some fitness pictures e.g. and you may be surprised how few of them follow your friends' stereotype.

[UpiH]

For some reason, Tour de France podium comes to mind. Or "What a pianist lives in me".

[TripLight]

Staring Trees, gotta love them. Is imagining Loghain slowly undressing Daiya with his eyes,...NO I must be strong, even if Zev and Daiya might like it

[Charsen]

tmp7704 wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Well it's not a set-in-stone rule of thumb, obviously... but the degree of difference in the game models still trips me out pretty bad. XD After watching one of my roommates tear the other one a new #@$hole over that in comic art, it really stands out to me now, haha.

It may be your friends nerdraging over something not matching their preconception have skewed your judgement, though -- the actual placement/width of shoulders on the characters isn't really very much off in comparison to these Xena pics, for example. It probably creates much worse impression because the limbs on the models are extremely scrawny, and the default pose has them unnaturaly angled away from the body, much more than how people normally keep their arms.

But google pictures of females who actually do work out to similar degree a DA character would -- some fitness pictures e.g. and you may be surprised how few of them follow your friends' stereotype.

i tend to agree that angles stretching the arm polygons no doubt make the female arms look more scrawny. and if they were bulkier, then people would probably be unhappy with that. hard to say. but, i am no expert on female arms, though they did seem thin while in a neutral pose IMO. 

[ejoslin]

soignee wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

ejoslin wrote...

I'd get on my knees for him ANY day.

Wait...

just so you know I took a screenshot just so I can bribe you with that at a later date lol

ahahahah. Take that EJ, and your ninja edits!

Damn!  The screenshot WAS a good idea, though!    Be kind!

[Aroihkin]

tmp7704 wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

Well it's not a set-in-stone rule of thumb, obviously... but the degree of difference in the game models still trips me out pretty bad. XD After watching one of my roommates tear the other one a new #@$hole over that in comic art, it really stands out to me now, haha.

It may be your friends nerdraging over something not matching their preconception have skewed your judgement, though -- the actual placement/width of shoulders on the characters isn't really very much off in comparison to these Xena pics, for example. It probably creates much worse impression because the limbs on the models are extremely scrawny, and the default pose has them unnaturaly angled away from the body, much more than how people normally keep their arms.

But google pictures of females who actually do work out to similar degree a DA character would -- some fitness pictures e.g. and you may be surprised how few of them follow your friends' stereotype.

Okay, guys, since I'm obviously incapable of articulating anything well, I'll go to pictures:



Worksafe to click, I bloopered all the rated bits. I had a hard time getting pics of chicks just standing straight and upright, so I had to account for hip-cant and some side-shot in a few of them. Also, couldn't find a good straight standing shot of Morrigan and can't open my game right now.

Spent way too much time on it as it is for a stupid point.

This is my roommate, so it's not just nerdrage when she tells the pencilist to bring in the shoulders.

When I do it, it's nerdrage. When my roommate does it, it's a paycheck. XD

Which is why I'm not really wanting to get into another four page long debate over semantics / "what I  meant was... yes well... WHO DID I OFFEND NOW? oh god internet" again.

So, your mileage may vary, not all chicks are built the same, etc etc etc. I'm not getting into it.

BUT THAT UP THERE IS WHAT I MEANT. NOT HIPBONES = SHOULDERS. OR WHATEVER. lol.

Ffsdrfsd, I should be writing. Not playing with google and making my browser crash. Again.

[soignee]

Charsen wrote...


i tend to agree that angles stretching the arm polygons no doubt make the female arms look more scrawny. and if they were bulkier, then people would probably be unhappy with that. hard to say. but, i am no expert on female arms, though they did seem thin while in a neutral pose IMO. 

yeah we're sailing into the good ol' femalebody debate issues that MMOs have every so often when armour/etc is brought up. I personally like it that my female characters look like they can crack your skull open, and wear armour that they won't fall out of when they do so.

Others want a barbie doll who wears a chainmail bikini.

And I am aware that's weird coming from me, as I think you all associate me as a frivolous fashion type. I just like kick ass ladies who look like they can kick your ass, you know?

[Aroihkin]

Yeah, I like that in DA, armor actually looks like armor. Alley's not running around in a metal bra and panties. XD Folks who want that for their characters can toss mods in, but default = plate is PLATE, damnit.

[ejoslin]

LOL Aroihkin, *I* understood you, but your illustrations are awesome! I am a woman who has broad shoulders and slim hips. I think that's why I like the human female models. Madonna is another who is built like that (not that I look ANYTHING like her, mind you).

[Aroihkin]

Always exceptions! But as a general rule, the DA proportions for chicks tell me they weren't sure what they were doing, whereas they got the guys waaay better. Zevran's anatomy is, for the most part, awesome.

...But we knew that. *_*

EDIT: ALSO, MORRIGAN'S HEAD IS TOO SMALL. AS IS HER EYES. WHICH ARE REALLY REALLY FREAKING FAR APART.

Okay, done now. ;D

This is just all why I personally have a hard time playing human chicks! That's all! PITCHFORKS ACCEPTED AT THE FRONT DESK, NOT IN THE REAR.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 18 avril 2010 - 05:46 .

[Charsen]

ejoslin wrote...

LOL Aroihkin, *I* understood you, but your illustrations are awesome! I am a woman who has broad shoulders and slim hips. I think that's why I like the human female models. Madonna is another who is built like that (not that I look ANYTHING like her, mind you).

pssht EJ, you have yellow eyes. you > madonna

[Kaioku]

Offtopic:



WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS THIS THE LAST SEASON OF SUPERNATURAL?!? WHAAAHAHAHAHIIII? DX

[Charsen]

Kaioku wrote...

Offtopic:

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS THIS THE LAST SEASON OF SUPERNATURAL?!? WHAAAHAHAHAHIIII? DX

there's one more season after this, but the main storyline ends this season.

[Kaioku]

Charsen wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Offtopic:

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS THIS THE LAST SEASON OF SUPERNATURAL?!? WHAAAHAHAHAHIIII? DX

there's one more season after this, but the main storyline ends this season.

*jaw hits desk*

GRERE$"WEFWa43dfrsfg5!11 Charsen THANK you so much! *pounces* <3:crying:<3

[Aroihkin]

ALSO, KAIOKU, GET ON AIM AND STOP MAKING ME KILL THE FORMATTING IN PRIVATE MESSAGE. lol. It keeps eating random middle chunks of everything.

I'm AroCaffeine on AIM, anyone can feel free to add/poke. Just note that I afk a lot and I sometimes pass out without aaaaany warning.



And I am now on topic.

[Addai]

ejoslin, I just ran the gates sequence for my HNF character and I see you fixed Zevran's Friendly dialogue there. Yay! It is so nice to get the Black City speech. I think it would make my HNF cry.



I was a little sad that the EF gates kiss did not trigger after installing this mod. Not sure if I did something or it's incompatible or what.

[Kaioku]

Aroihkin wrote...

ALSO, KAIOKU, GET ON AIM AND STOP MAKING ME KILL THE FORMATTING IN PRIVATE MESSAGE. lol. It keeps eating random middle chunks of everything.

I'm AroCaffeine on AIM, anyone can feel free to add/poke. Just note that I afk a lot and I sometimes pass out without aaaaany warning.



And I am now on topic.

Stoopid american folk and their aim *rolls eyes* we use icq here! D: *downloads* gimme a minute there

[Aroihkin]

Kaioku wrote...
Stoopid american folk and their aim *rolls eyes* we use icq here! D: *downloads* gimme a minute there

Too many numbers for my brainfog.

Trillian or GAIM are your friends, run 'em all at once in one program! Also, no stupid effing ads from AIM.

I can sign up for ICQ again. I think I had it, once. BUT YOU KNOW, NUMBERS.

Modifié par Aroihkin, 18 avril 2010 - 06:38 .

[Charsen]

Kaioku wrote...

Charsen wrote...

Kaioku wrote...
Offtopic:
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS THIS THE LAST SEASON OF SUPERNATURAL?!? WHAAAHAHAHAHIIII? DX

there's one more season after this, but the main storyline ends this season.

*jaw hits desk*
GRERE$"WEFWa43dfrsfg5!11 Charsen THANK you so much! *pounces* <3:crying:<3

lol, no problem, i like that show too. 
and the last season of it is turning out to be.... very painful for them. 4 more episodes until, well... i think we know what.

[tmp7704]

Aroihkin wrote...

So, your mileage may vary, not all chicks are built the same, etc etc etc. I'm not getting into it.

BUT THAT UP THERE IS WHAT I MEANT. NOT HIPBONES = SHOULDERS. OR WHATEVER. lol.

I understand what you meant. My point was that precisely because "not all chicks are built the same" nerdraging that DA girls look more like type A than type B is pretty... well, i'm not sure if it's more of pointless waste of time or something bit icky because it works towards promoting certain version of female shape as universal/preferable and other is somehow "zomg they did it all wrong".
i mean, would people be so quick to moan this one is built all wrong, too?

[Kaioku]

Charsen wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Charsen wrote...

Kaioku wrote...
Offtopic:
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS THIS THE LAST SEASON OF SUPERNATURAL?!? WHAAAHAHAHAHIIII? DX

there's one more season after this, but the main storyline ends this season.

*jaw hits desk*
GRERE$"WEFWa43dfrsfg5!11 Charsen THANK you so much! *pounces* <3:crying:<3

lol, no problem, i like that show too. 
and the last season of it is turning out to be.... very painful for them. 4 more episodes until, well... i think we know what.

If anybody can make this storyline end fairly well and make it work it's the writers of this show. I know, hope's one day gonna be my downfall.
Well, just in case, let's meet up here when it happens. You may spoiler me since I'm afraid the episode'll take the usual 12 to 24 hours to appear on the internet. We can not-weep and be totally strong since it's just fiction dang it together.

Modifié par Kaioku, 18 avril 2010 - 07:59 .

[Aroihkin]

tmp7704 wrote...

Aroihkin wrote...

So, your mileage may vary, not all chicks are built the same, etc etc etc. I'm not getting into it.

BUT THAT UP THERE IS WHAT I MEANT. NOT HIPBONES = SHOULDERS. OR WHATEVER. lol.

I understand what you meant. My point was that precisely because "not all chicks are built the same" nerdraging that DA girls look more like type A than type B is pretty... well, i'm not sure if it's more of pointless waste of time or something bit icky because it works towards promoting certain version of female shape as universal/preferable and other is somehow "zomg they did it all wrong".
i mean, would people be so quick to moan this one is built all wrong, too?

...Why does everyone always take everything I say as some grand sweeping social commentary? I swear, that's how I got in a slap-fight with half of the SiB community and labeled a raging misogynist. XD

Now, trust me, I realize that I have the freak-vibe, and thus I attract this kind of trouble, but seriously. I've already done this dance like five times in this very thread on other topics! And my original comments' meanings were just as innocent!

So, I mean, I could answer with some long detailed thing about how that is totally irrelevant to the point, point out that I never claimed such a silly thing, or ask if that means anatomy books are evil because they don't take the exceptions into account... but then we'll be here for five pages, half the thread will get offended at something I say when they take it waaaay out of context, and then what?

I know what...

DISTRACTION-BOWIE, GO!

[Bootsykk]

Charsen wrote...

Kaioku wrote...

Offtopic:

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY IS THIS THE LAST SEASON OF SUPERNATURAL?!? WHAAAHAHAHAHIIII? DX

there's one more season after this, but the main storyline ends this season.

...

NO.

That has to be some kind of sick joke.

Well... at least they're actually ending it, rather than drawing it out... but still... I'll miss that show.


EDIT: ...I don't know what posessed me to get up and check this damn forum at 4 in the morning. I'm going to bed... >_< night all.

Modifié par Juneya, 18 avril 2010 - 08:52 .

[Tellervo]

Juneya wrote...


EDIT: ...I don't know what posessed me to get up and check this damn forum at 4 in the morning. I'm going to bed... >_< night all.

I do it, too.  My night is most Zevranites' mornings, however, and so I get up to whizz, I check the forum.  I get up to yell at someone using a leafblower to clean grass clippings, I check the forum (and write for the kmeme, apparently).  Addiction, much?  I think so.

On a similar note, I saw an associate in the supermarket Friday night, and she quirked an eyebrow at me and said, "I saw you."  When asked for clarification she just said, "Zevran."  Much f-bombardment happened.

It bleeds over into real life.  I'm trapped.  This fandom will consume us all.

[Aroihkin]

Wait, they saw your photo here and they know you in real life? That's kind of hilarious. And scary. XD