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[ejoslin]

soignee wrote...

CHAPTER 16 IS UP, VERILY!
*strikes heroic poise*
I should go pimp myself out on LJ now...

I love you much.  Off to read!  Thank you!  

Edit: as soon as I put in a picture, of course!  Dwarf kisses again!

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 avril 2010 - 02:36 .

[soignee]

Aimo art and MS Paint baywatch, Zev friday was pretty awesome yesterday!

[Charsen]

Senorfuzzylips hilarity , fanart, fanfic, and more kisses... we are a productive group aren't we?

[Bl1nder]

CBGB wrote...

ejoslin wrote...
And anyone who thinks a guy is sleazy just because he hits on you immediately hasn't known too many guys! 

But the instant, perpetual, and indiscriminate interest in bedding everyone seems a poor formula for making the main character feel valued.

That's a byproduct of of who he is, his background makes a whole lot of sense, perhaps that is why everybody likes him. I'm not female but he endeared himself to me and made me laugh alot of times. And as someone said Antonion Banderas, although for some odd reason i can't help but thinking Puss in Boots instead

[ejoslin]

It's an interesting thing, the original post that started this thread, because I actually want to add something to it.



Zevran actually does make me feel he values my warden. The flirting never bothered me, because it never seemed serious as the only time Zevran has sex with anyone other than the Warden is at the Warden's request.



It's his other comments, his comments about the relationship to Morrigan, to Shale, to Oghren that make my warden feel valued. He obviously is very happy to be with the Warden, and it's quite important to him, even before he reaches adore. Plus, he seems to care enough that he wants the warden to accept him for who he is, and lays it all out for her (or him) to see.



Ok, enough squee. Back to Missa!

[MorGothic]

@Soignee - Just finished Chapter 16 and it was amazing as usual, although I do have a problem to report, when I click the chapter drop down menu I appear to be missing Chapter 17...

As for what I was writing it has been stopped dead, due to the fact I'm having trouble with a certain fight scene. *grumble*

Modifié par MorGothic, 24 avril 2010 - 03:46 .

[soignee]

MorGothic wrote...

@Soignee - Just finished Chapter 16 and it was amazing as usual, although I do have a problem to report, when I click the chapter drop down menu I appear to be missing Chapter 17...

As for what I was writing it has been stopped dead, due to the fact I'm having trouble with a certain fight scene. *grumble*

Fight scenes are tough to write, to be honest. If you go on about description for too long people reading it can be, "well, uh. OK," and switch off from it, especialyl if you get too bogged down by details.

Put on some fighting music. Mine is Prodigy >.>

re: the 17 thing, I have no idea. Weird. There is no chapter 17, ff.net lies to you. Also thanks for the nice words They help, I was all WHAT IS THIS this morning, despite publishing it.

[Charsen]

im pretty sure Missa is a bamf with great shoes.

[soignee]

Charsen wrote...

im pretty sure Missa is a bamf with great shoes.

 
A total bamf, yes! The shoe thing? Mayyyyyyybe. *stores away idea for a later scene*

Hmm, shoes. This thread made me buy shoes yesterday. I am blaming it and the fact I have anOffice account that Firefox remembers all my details on and *clickclick* "ooh! new shoes. Yay."

>.>
<.<

[Sannox]

I've got to rush, but going back to those first questions - why should it be a problem that Zevran has had other sex partners? It wouldn't bother me in real life, and wouldn't bother the characters I've played. And if he's really, genuinely trying to sleep around, he's remarkeably unsuccessful at it (as the only partner he has during the game is the warden).

I'll be back tomoorrow.  Thank you, Zevranites, for the incredible artwork and reading material!

Modifié par Sannox, 24 avril 2010 - 04:39 .

[TanithAeyrs]

ejoslin wrote...

It's an interesting thing, the original post that started this thread, because I actually want to add something to it.

Zevran actually does make me feel he values my warden. The flirting never bothered me, because it never seemed serious as the only time Zevran has sex with anyone other than the Warden is at the Warden's request.

It's his other comments, his comments about the relationship to Morrigan, to Shale, to Oghren that make my warden feel valued. He obviously is very happy to be with the Warden, and it's quite important to him, even before he reaches adore. Plus, he seems to care enough that he wants the warden to accept him for who he is, and lays it all out for her (or him) to see.

Ok, enough squee. Back to Missa!

I agree.  I think one of the interesting things about Zevran is that after his stories about seducing marks and his flirtatious comments that he really is exclusive to the Warden.  I suspect he used casual sex to fill an emotional need.  Once his emotions are engaged the need is gone so, although he flirts, he doesn't pursue other sexual encouters.  Since much of his flirting is also used as a deflection from topics he finds uncomfortable I can't really blame him for it. 

One other comment, although many of us (myself included) would feel uncomfortable in a relationship with a person who has been so promiscuous,  I suspect few of us actually had the "white wedding."  Early in this thread there were posts about how the PC could not feel valued by a romance prospect who was not a virgin.  In my mind this is extremely unrealistic.  Certainly there are those who wait, but to make virginity a requirement for true love - really?  I think this may be one reason that Alistair is actually harder to have a happy ending with - he tries to dump you after Landsmeet if you make him king and play anything other than a human noble.  Alistair still has visions of the perfect romance- he doesn't have enough experience to realize that things aren't always perfect.  I think this is also why he leaves if you spare Loghain - he is too inexperienced in life to deal with less than perfect reality.

Zevran, with all of his emotional baggage is a much more mature character than Alistair.  I haven't done the Leliana romance yet so I can't comment on that.  It's just too hard not to romance Zev.

[Sarah1281]

Sannox wrote...

I've got to rush, but going back to those first questions - why should it be a problem that Zevran has had other sex partners? It wouldn't bother me in real life, and wouldn't bother the characters I've played. And if he's really, genuinely trying to sleep around, he's remarkeably unsuccessful at it (as the only partner he has during the game is the warden).

I'll be back tomoorrow.  Thank you, Zevranites, for the incredible artwork and reading material!

Well he's not trying to during the game (except sometimes with Isabela). In Antiva, though, just being a Crowe meant that he got laid a lot and if his stories are to be believed his female targets often tried to bribe him with sex which he had and then killed them anyway. He really doesn't come across as discriminatory about his bed partners until a little while after he enters a relationship with the PC but since he's on the run from the Crowes he really does have more pressing concerns than sex.

[ejoslin]

He's not trying with Isabela in the game, though. He's invited by her, but it was obvious that their previous relationship was just business for him.  He doesn't turn it down if invited, but it's not something he actively tried to make happen.  He leaves it entirely up to the warden.

As far as virginity being a requirement for true love? Heh. My husband is 7 years older than I, and he definitely had his mansl*t days, and I wasn't exactly pure-as-driven-snow either. It was a complete non-issue when we got together, and 19 years later (married 18 of them), it's still a non-issue. Our age difference was WAY more of an issue (part of the reason we didn't get together for a couple of years after we met, silly as it seems now). And it was only an issue for him.

I guess for some people it's important, though, weird as this may sound, I don't understand why. I mean, aside from health issues, but even being a technical virgin doesn't protect from all of those.

I guess it's not something that I'm insecure about. I expect that sex is part of an adult's life, really, and if it isn't, then that's something they have chosen. But I don't think I would feel the relationship is more valued if the person is a virgin. Feelings are what is most important, not sexual history, at least to me.

TMI anyone? Sorry if it is.

Modifié par ejoslin, 24 avril 2010 - 05:19 .

[Charsen]

i suppose the argument comes down to whether, in your mind, sex == love. for me, it does not. but it's far better when it does.

on a side note, just uploaded a new WIP current batch for the Kisses, including every default race/gender combo for the line "And here I thought it might be a Grey Warden thing. Ah, very well." (Zevran)

Working on the remaining sexytime kisses now.

edit:

btw when i say default, i am not currently including male dwarves. for some reason Bioware decided they didn't need their own kisses. i'll do a special version just for male dwarves after the default ones are done, since male dwarves will need more attention.

Modifié par Charsen, 24 avril 2010 - 05:27 .

[soignee]

You may be Alistair's first time, but you're Zevran's first love!

I think the above might be the reason why the "sl*t shaming" pops up in romance/love discussions whenever it's brought up about this game, to be honest.

If we disregard sexual health (and that's an entire issue, but I digress) problems that can stem from such proclivities, being worried about a partner that's been with several people before you can open the ol' flood gates of self conscious behavior, really.

i suppose the argument comes down to whether, in your mind, sex == love.
for me, it does not. but it's far better when it does.

This! So hard. I am sick of sex being treated as something you have to shove on a pedestal* and treat like a special, sacred thing. Not saying it *can't* be that, but... You know.


*not to be confused with the pedestry. Or weird ass sexual positions. Thanks Charsen, I learnt something todau!

Modifié par soignee, 24 avril 2010 - 05:35 .

[Charsen]

CZ and i watched a guy do double pedestals last night. it was frightening and we recoiled in terror. i'm glad you're sticking to just one, Soignee.



*evil lulz*

[soignee]

Charsen wrote...

CZ and i watched a guy do double pedestals last night. it was frightening and we recoiled in terror. i'm glad you're sticking to just one, Soignee.

*evil lulz*

I just urban dictionary'd, then lolled.

Ah, Zev thread. You teach me things. I've learnt something today, boys and girls.

[TripLight]

Zevran thread: Knowing is Half the Battle. LOL



Wow, I found a preset at DA Nexus for a HF to look like Eleanor, I am impressed. I did tweak it a little bit but I think she resembles a young Eleanor.

[Bootsykk]

soignee wrote...

You may be Alistair's first time, but you're Zevran's first love!

I think the above might be the reason why the "sl*t shaming" pops up in romance/love discussions whenever it's brought up about this game, to be honest.

If we disregard sexual health (and that's an entire issue, but I digress) problems that can stem from such proclivities, being worried about a partner that's been with several people before you can open the ol' flood gates of self conscious behavior, really.

i suppose the argument comes down to whether, in your mind, sex == love.
for me, it does not. but it's far better when it does.

This! So hard. I am sick of sex being treated as something you have to shove on a pedastal and treat like a special, sacred thing. Not saying it *can't* be that, but... You know.

Is it bad that I completely read this with Alistair's voice?


Anyway, Soignee--I wrote a really long gushing compliment on your incredible fanfiction, but as I pressed submit, the social network logged me out. So, I'll keep it simple--I love your writing.


Also, to everyone at the Zevran friday party... I feel I should be a late contributor, so I'll be back in a little bit with some quickly sketched fanart junk.

[Charsen]

soignee wrote...

Charsen wrote...

CZ and i watched a guy do double pedestals last night. it was frightening and we recoiled in terror. i'm glad you're sticking to just one, Soignee.

*evil lulz*

I just urban dictionary'd, then lolled.

Ah, Zev thread. You teach me things. I've learnt something today, boys and girls.

Lol, i just looked at urban dictionary and.... ew no. i was thinking more of an object that looks like a pedestal. a very large one. two, in fact. anatomically improbable and definitely a DO NOT WANT. D=

[Bootsykk]

TripLight wrote...

Zevran thread: Knowing is Half the Battle. LOL

Wow, I found a preset at DA Nexus for a HF to look like Eleanor, I am impressed. I did tweak it a little bit but I think she resembles a young Eleanor.

Ohhh, yeah, I love that mod. It's pretty fun. I personally like using that base morph and then giving it hazel eyes and brown hair, to look more like a relative of Fergus.

Though, I do also like the thought that Elanour was sleeping around when she had my HFN, seeing as she looks more like Halle Berry than any of the couslands, but hey.

EDIT: Bah, what am I doing. off and away I go!

Modifié par Juneya, 24 avril 2010 - 05:39 .

[soignee]

Charsen wrote...

soignee wrote...

Charsen wrote...

CZ and i watched a guy do double pedestals last night. it was frightening and we recoiled in terror. i'm glad you're sticking to just one, Soignee.

*evil lulz*

I just urban dictionary'd, then lolled.

Ah, Zev thread. You teach me things. I've learnt something today, boys and girls.

Lol, i just looked at urban dictionary and.... ew no. i was thinking more of an object that looks like a pedestal. a very large one. two, in fact. anatomically improbable and definitely a DO NOT WANT. D=

ZEV THREAD: MOAR DIRTY THEN YOU THINK.

[TripLight]

Juneya wrote...

TripLight wrote...

Zevran thread: Knowing is Half the Battle. LOL

Wow, I found a preset at DA Nexus for a HF to look like Eleanor, I am impressed. I did tweak it a little bit but I think she resembles a young Eleanor.

Ohhh, yeah, I love that mod. It's pretty fun. I personally like using that base morph and then giving it hazel eyes and brown hair, to look more like a relative of Fergus.

Though, I do also like the thought that Elanour was sleeping around when she had my HFN, seeing as she looks more like Halle Berry than any of the couslands, but hey.

EDIT: Bah, what am I doing. off and away I go!

 I believe there is a mod at Nexus to make either one of your parents or the whole family resemble a dark-skinned character. I did see a version of Eleanor for it. Though I did notice a lot of people who roll darker skinned characters rped their PC was adopted into the family and given full rights.

[Aroihkin]

I love this thread. Not coherent enough for much more than that right now, but... yeah. The "virginity is what makes it special!" argument makes me gag every time I see it, sorry. Just... no. No. Just because that's their emotional kink, doesn't make it so.

[Sarah1281]

Though I did notice a lot of people who roll darker skinned characters rped their PC was adopted into the family and given full rights.

How historically accurate would that be, especially when it comes time to inherit Highever or to use the Cousland name to bolster Alistair or Anora's claim to the throne?

Modifié par Sarah1281, 24 avril 2010 - 05:51 .