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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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TripLight wrote...

Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?


Zutara and Kataang...

the flame wars over those pairings... iv been to anime cons where people have gotten into fist fights over those ships

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[quote]Yendi wrote...

 [quote]Yendi wrote...
*delurks again* I also thought shipping involved boats but it might have something to do with my rather limited english... word-thingy. When did this thread get so cute? I’m very much for online romances though since I met my boyfriend while discussing Terry Pratchett in some forum five years ago. [/quote]

Terry! *fistbump*
By your name are you by any chance also a Steven Brust reader, too? [/quote]

Yes, he's another one of my favourite authors and that’s part of the reason for the name but it also happens to mean "defeated" in Turkish which I thought was funny in a game forum.[/quote]

Image IPB lol - good one!  

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TripLight wrote...

Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?


No, no no. Zutara and Kataang. *knows far too much about this*

The creators joking with it: Linkie

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I haven't watched Avatar (the worthwhile series, not the movie about white people saving the world) but I'd really like to. It keeps going highly recommended to me as a really well-done program, even while targeted to kids--which I'd never object to anyway XD

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Cuddlezarro wrote...

yes I mean the last air bender

that fandom is *#&^!^#* scary


I've only seen one episode, but I'm all for Toph and Appa hooking up. IT IS FACT.

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**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.



Here's an excerpt from the Shipping Wiki I found that has bearing:



he Xena: Warrior Princess fandom saw often "shipping wars" that turned especially intense due to spillover from real-life debates about same-sex sexuality and gay rights.



Shortly after the 1995 debut of the action/fantasy series about a woman warrior seeking redemption for a dark past, fans started discussing the possibility of a relationship between Xena and her sidekick and best friend Gabrielle. Toward the end of the first season, the show's producers began to play to this perception by deliberately inserting usually humorous lesbian innuendo into some episodes. The show acquired a cult following in the lesbian community. However, Xena had a number of male love interests as well, and from the first season she had an adversarial but sexually charged dynamic with Ares, the God of War, who frequently tried to win her over as his "Warrior Queen." Gabrielle herself once had a male fiancé, and his death deeply affected her.



In a 10-year retrospective of the show in Salon.com, journalist Cathy Young wrote:[8]

“ Almost from the start, the fandom was bitterly divided among various factions, particularly subtext fans pitted against those who saw Xena and Gabrielle as friends. Fandom wars over relationships are nothing new: "X-Files" fans clashed vehemently over whether Mulder and Scully should do the deed. In the "Xena" fandom, though, these wars had the added angle of sexual politics. Some of the anti-subtext sentiment was undoubtedly driven by bona fide bigotry. Some lesbian fans, on the other hand, approached the argument as a real-life gay rights struggle and labeled all dissent as homophobic: To them, denying a sexual relationship between Xena and Gabrielle was tantamount to denying the reality of their own lives, and the "Are they or aren't they" tease was an insulting way to keep the characters in the closet.



In a way, knowing that the staff paid attention to fan opinions may have made matters worse: There was an incentive for the rival groups to out-shout one another to make themselves heard. Many fans who had no appetite for these wars fled the online fandom. Storylines that were seen as betraying the subtext, particularly the Xena-Ares relationship in the fifth season, were met with intense hostility from a small but vocal group; at other times, non-subtext fans grumbled about what they saw as pandering to the pro-subtext fan base (such as several sixth-season episodes emphasizing Xena and Gabrielle's transcendent bond as soul mates).



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Cuddlezarro wrote...

TripLight wrote...

Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?


Zutara and Kataang...

the flame wars over those pairings... iv been to anime cons where people have gotten into fist fights over those ships




During the series I rather liked it when Zuko & Katara seemed to be heading that way.  But, it wasn't to be.

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TripLight wrote...

**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.


Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.

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I am suddenly feeling a WHOLE lot better about my Zevran obsession.

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well i think it's a fanfic thing right? i just never got into fanfic because i can't read or write.

So do you dictate your posts to someone else?  


yep   :ph34r:  doesn't everyone? 

ok so i guess i have heard of shippers before... still weird but hey

the only stance i ever took on Harry Potter was on whether someone was working for or against Dumbledore (i was right too) my friend is a huge HP fan, it's ok, but *shrug*  i like real English guys instead of the magical ones...

timelords are ok too. =]

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Herr Uhl wrote...

TripLight wrote...

**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.


Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.


dude no, go Engineer.
you get combat drones, bring Tali for a second drone, and you never have to worry about husks or organics. then you use your overload skills on any non-organics. booya, cake-walk city.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

TripLight wrote...

**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.


Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.

Seconded, or try playing on superpro Casual mode if you aren't already.  Biotics really do a minimal amount of gun-damage, and get that WHEE LOOK AT MEEE I'M LIFTIN' payoff.  Alternately, try a full-on tech expert for explosion joy.  Would you rather control and debilitate, or would you rather, well, blast stuff with tech powers?

Also, screw Kaidan.  I get too much joy picking Liara over him to not hit on him a little, but I can't stand the man :/

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Charsen wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

TripLight wrote...

**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.


Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.


dude no, go Engineer.
you get combat drones, bring Tali for a second drone, and you never have to worry about husks or organics. then you use your overload skills on any non-organics. booya, cake-walk city.


Ah, I meant for ME1, once she played through that she ought to be used to the system (it's the same but different).

Engineer was the hardest on ME1 (in my experience).

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Conzuela wrote...

Herr Uhl wrote...

TripLight wrote...

**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.


Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.

Seconded, or try playing on superpro Casual mode if you aren't already.  Biotics really do a minimal amount of gun-damage, and get that WHEE LOOK AT MEEE I'M LIFTIN' payoff.  Alternately, try a full-on tech expert for explosion joy.  Would you rather control and debilitate, or would you rather, well, blast stuff with tech powers?

Also, screw Kaidan.  I get too much joy picking Liara over him to not hit on him a little, but I can't stand the man :/


I failed at opening a door that I need to get through at the research camp, I didn't have enough Omni gel apparently, and I can see someone standing in there. It's making me crazy because I can't get in!:mellow:

I wish best buy had the freaking strategy guide, because the game booklet doesn't cover opening doors><

Modifié par TripLight, 25 avril 2010 - 07:55 .


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Herr Uhl wrote...

TripLight wrote...

Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?


No, no no. Zutara and Kataang. *knows far too much about this*

The creators joking with it: Linkie


LOL - "Lorohli' 

*glares at Windows 7 for buggering up ME1 & sulks*

Modifié par barkingM1, 25 avril 2010 - 07:59 .


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@Nonvita HP article from 2007 about the shipping wars



http://blog.timesuni...sdelusional/40/

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Tellervo wrote...

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Without making the connection to 'relationship', talking about "shipping" people actually sounded derogatory to me.  Not sure why. 


Yes, a little.  It's usually based on subtext and defended in vitriolic fashion.

Ex.: Shipping me with Aro.  Clearly, there's some connection, but romance?  Maybe we'll beat people up together and take their lunch money, but romance?  I expected a different one, honestly, and I couldn't have defended myself against it.  Aro I can deal with.

Well we did talk about my sitting in your lap the other day. With pigtails IIRC.

:whistle:

I think we'd both have to have a change of equipment for a romance, though I'm down with that. This is the internets! We both get mistaken for guys anyway (myself mostly when I don't go by Aro, although sometimes even then).

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if you want a hilarious article on Avatar shipping wars go here (warning though turn off the images)



http://encyclopediad..._Last_Airbender

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Every time I go on ED, I somehow make the mistake of clicking something and getting huge naked butts in my face.



I can't really complain other than the poor photo quality and bad lighting.

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Conzuela wrote...

Every time I go on ED, I somehow make the mistake of clicking something and getting huge naked butts in my face.

I can't really complain other than the poor photo quality and bad lighting.


hence the *turn off pictures* warning

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Aroihkin wrote...

Tellervo wrote...

barkingM1 wrote...

Without making the connection to 'relationship', talking about "shipping" people actually sounded derogatory to me.  Not sure why. 


Yes, a little.  It's usually based on subtext and defended in vitriolic fashion.

Ex.: Shipping me with Aro.  Clearly, there's some connection, but romance?  Maybe we'll beat people up together and take their lunch money, but romance?  I expected a different one, honestly, and I couldn't have defended myself against it.  Aro I can deal with.

Well we did talk about my sitting in your lap the other day. With pigtails IIRC.

:whistle:

I think we'd both have to have a change of equipment for a romance, though I'm down with that. This is the internets! We both get mistaken for guys anyway (myself mostly when I don't go by Aro, although sometimes even then).


That passes for normal conversation around here. ;)

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13 hours, 30 minutes

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My pixels reduce like craaaaaap, so click. =_=

Does it show that I'm putting off detailing that armor? Why yes, I think that it does! >.> Probably going with that armor, since that's his starting look. Everyone draws Alistair in splintmail, starting armor is kind of the standard look IMO. Sigh.

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@Nonvita HP article from 2007 about the shipping wars

http://blog.timesuni...sdelusional/40/


Lol! So dead on. XD

And yeah, I liked Mugglenet for awhile. Until it became one big clusterf*ck of nastiness and yelling. I was too sensitive for all that at the time. :P


Edit: Aro, your pic is starting to get seriously sexy. :wub::D

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Aroihkin wrote...
Well we did talk about my sitting in your lap the other day. With pigtails IIRC.


And all I can think to say is, "Come to daddy!"

I think we'd both have to have a change of equipment for a romance, though I'm down with that.


:pinched:

I may be emotionally and mentally gender-effed, but I like my bits where they are, thanks. 

Modifié par Tellervo, 25 avril 2010 - 08:12 .


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LOL, Harry Potter fandom terrifies me. The Half-blood Prince of All Cosmos is the closest I really got to doing a fanwork, and it was because I could NOT resist the pun.

"We are moved to tears by the size of this thing!"