TripLight wrote...
Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?
Zutara and Kataang...
the flame wars over those pairings... iv been to anime cons where people have gotten into fist fights over those ships
TripLight wrote...
Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?
Guest_Conzuela_*
Cuddlezarro wrote...
yes I mean the last air bender
that fandom is *#&^!^#* scary
he Xena: Warrior Princess fandom saw often "shipping wars" that turned especially intense due to spillover from real-life debates about same-sex sexuality and gay rights.
Shortly after the 1995 debut of the action/fantasy series about a woman warrior seeking redemption for a dark past, fans started discussing the possibility of a relationship between Xena and her sidekick and best friend Gabrielle. Toward the end of the first season, the show's producers began to play to this perception by deliberately inserting usually humorous lesbian innuendo into some episodes. The show acquired a cult following in the lesbian community. However, Xena had a number of male love interests as well, and from the first season she had an adversarial but sexually charged dynamic with Ares, the God of War, who frequently tried to win her over as his "Warrior Queen." Gabrielle herself once had a male fiancé, and his death deeply affected her.
In a 10-year retrospective of the show in Salon.com, journalist Cathy Young wrote:[8]
“ Almost from the start, the fandom was bitterly divided among various factions, particularly subtext fans pitted against those who saw Xena and Gabrielle as friends. Fandom wars over relationships are nothing new: "X-Files" fans clashed vehemently over whether Mulder and Scully should do the deed. In the "Xena" fandom, though, these wars had the added angle of sexual politics. Some of the anti-subtext sentiment was undoubtedly driven by bona fide bigotry. Some lesbian fans, on the other hand, approached the argument as a real-life gay rights struggle and labeled all dissent as homophobic: To them, denying a sexual relationship between Xena and Gabrielle was tantamount to denying the reality of their own lives, and the "Are they or aren't they" tease was an insulting way to keep the characters in the closet.
In a way, knowing that the staff paid attention to fan opinions may have made matters worse: There was an incentive for the rival groups to out-shout one another to make themselves heard. Many fans who had no appetite for these wars fled the online fandom. Storylines that were seen as betraying the subtext, particularly the Xena-Ares relationship in the fifth season, were met with intense hostility from a small but vocal group; at other times, non-subtext fans grumbled about what they saw as pandering to the pro-subtext fan base (such as several sixth-season episodes emphasizing Xena and Gabrielle's transcendent bond as soul mates).
Cuddlezarro wrote...
TripLight wrote...
Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?
Zutara and Kataang...
the flame wars over those pairings... iv been to anime cons where people have gotten into fist fights over those ships
TripLight wrote...
**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.
Creature 1 wrote...
So do you dictate your posts to someone else?Charsen wrote...
well i think it's a fanfic thing right? i just never got into fanfic because i can't read or write.
Herr Uhl wrote...
TripLight wrote...
**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.
Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.
Guest_Conzuela_*
Seconded, or try playing on superpro Casual mode if you aren't already. Biotics really do a minimal amount of gun-damage, and get that WHEE LOOK AT MEEE I'M LIFTIN' payoff. Alternately, try a full-on tech expert for explosion joy. Would you rather control and debilitate, or would you rather, well, blast stuff with tech powers?Herr Uhl wrote...
TripLight wrote...
**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.
Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.
Charsen wrote...
Herr Uhl wrote...
TripLight wrote...
**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.
Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.
dude no, go Engineer.
you get combat drones, bring Tali for a second drone, and you never have to worry about husks or organics. then you use your overload skills on any non-organics. booya, cake-walk city.
Conzuela wrote...
Seconded, or try playing on superpro Casual mode if you aren't already. Biotics really do a minimal amount of gun-damage, and get that WHEE LOOK AT MEEE I'M LIFTIN' payoff. Alternately, try a full-on tech expert for explosion joy. Would you rather control and debilitate, or would you rather, well, blast stuff with tech powers?Herr Uhl wrote...
TripLight wrote...
**ME update...I am going to have to try ME2 first, I have the guide for it and I am retarded at shooter games. And Kaiden is already irritating me.
Go for a biotic. Then you can lift everything if your aim is off.
Also, screw Kaidan. I get too much joy picking Liara over him to not hit on him a little, but I can't stand the man :/
Modifié par TripLight, 25 avril 2010 - 07:55 .
Herr Uhl wrote...
TripLight wrote...
Isn't it Zuko/Katara and Katara/Aang that lead that pack?
No, no no. Zutara and Kataang. *knows far too much about this*
The creators joking with it: Linkie
Modifié par barkingM1, 25 avril 2010 - 07:59 .
Well we did talk about my sitting in your lap the other day. With pigtails IIRC.Tellervo wrote...
barkingM1 wrote...
Without making the connection to 'relationship', talking about "shipping" people actually sounded derogatory to me. Not sure why.
Yes, a little. It's usually based on subtext and defended in vitriolic fashion.
Ex.: Shipping me with Aro. Clearly, there's some connection, but romance? Maybe we'll beat people up together and take their lunch money, but romance? I expected a different one, honestly, and I couldn't have defended myself against it. Aro I can deal with.
Guest_Conzuela_*
Conzuela wrote...
Every time I go on ED, I somehow make the mistake of clicking something and getting huge naked butts in my face.
I can't really complain other than the poor photo quality and bad lighting.
Aroihkin wrote...
Well we did talk about my sitting in your lap the other day. With pigtails IIRC.Tellervo wrote...
barkingM1 wrote...
Without making the connection to 'relationship', talking about "shipping" people actually sounded derogatory to me. Not sure why.
Yes, a little. It's usually based on subtext and defended in vitriolic fashion.
Ex.: Shipping me with Aro. Clearly, there's some connection, but romance? Maybe we'll beat people up together and take their lunch money, but romance? I expected a different one, honestly, and I couldn't have defended myself against it. Aro I can deal with.
I think we'd both have to have a change of equipment for a romance, though I'm down with that. This is the internets! We both get mistaken for guys anyway (myself mostly when I don't go by Aro, although sometimes even then).

TripLight wrote...
@Nonvita HP article from 2007 about the shipping wars
http://blog.timesuni...sdelusional/40/
Modifié par Nonvita, 25 avril 2010 - 08:10 .
Aroihkin wrote...
Well we did talk about my sitting in your lap the other day. With pigtails IIRC.
I think we'd both have to have a change of equipment for a romance, though I'm down with that.
Modifié par Tellervo, 25 avril 2010 - 08:12 .