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What's the (Romantic) Appeal of Zevran?


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soignee wrote...

All this dwarf hate makes me sad :( Dwarve ladies are awesome. I have two, let me tell you about it internets. They are blessed with an ass that won't quit, suprisingly slim legs and BEWBS. I'm just going to ignore the weird arms. Mentally blocking it now.

Mind you, I'm titchy IRL, and the dwarf ladies in this game aren't actually that short- 5'2", maybe? My dwarf lady reaches alistair's shoulder and my Aeducan can certaily headbutt an elf no problem.

ALSO: Brosca/Zevran OTP. Obviously.

Sorry.  Image IPB  I did try, but I'm bothered even by the scrawniness of the elves.  I love the human female profile in the game- tall, slender limbs and still (probably unrealistically) decently endowed.  I'm glad they don't make all the women in the game have the busting derrieres and boobs I've seen in other video games.   Nothing against an ample woman IRL, of course, I just feel like the T&A profile is there for male players' benefit.

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awww that was a very sweet dwarf picture. I made a female common dwarf and got her to ostagar ... intend to finish her sometime...but there are still just so many other options for me

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Nothing against an ample woman IRL, of course, I just feel like the T&A profile is there for male players' benefit.




its not really all that different form game developers putting guys like Alistair(or most JRPG protagonists) for women to drool all over really though is it?



though the women in this game are pretty tame (without mods any ways)

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Raiynsong wrote...

awww that was a very sweet dwarf picture. I made a female common dwarf and got her to ostagar ... intend to finish her sometime...but there are still just so many other options for me


I think it's sweet, too -- what's nice in the second one linked is in the animation, he actually starts to smile instead of it being static.  Here's the other, but it's dark -- I see his face fine, but I'm not sure how it would look at a lower resolution.  I have the other one linked as well again -- so again, the warning, the second one of these has a dwarf boob in it because I use a nudity patch (I just hate the way the underwear looks).

i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab322/tiredangel/zevsmile2.jpg

i876.photobucket.com/albums/ab322/tiredangel/zevsmile.jpg

Edit: Apparently someone reported the dwarf boob so I'm not sure that one will show up if clicked. Why do I find that incredibly funny?

Modifié par ejoslin, 13 février 2010 - 01:41 .


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what nudity patch do you use ? and is there one that doesn't give erections to the guys in the Dungeon ? Those guys are just creepy lol

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Natual bodies+realistisc bodies



the nude patches have many many variations...boners and non boner models included





now excuse me while I go back and rage over the latest combat tweaks overwriting the 25 tactics slot mod

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Raiynsong wrote...

what nudity patch do you use ? and is there one that doesn't give erections to the guys in the Dungeon ? Those guys are just creepy lol


I use DAO mod manager, and there's a package called "Natural Bodies all in One."  It's very easy to configure so you DON'T have the erections.  In the female sex scenes, you don't see anything from the waist down anyway, so missing out on those surprises in the dungeon is fine with me^_^

Edit: I wish there was a way to just remove the bras, actually.  But as far as I know, that mod isn't out there.

Modifié par ejoslin, 12 février 2010 - 10:50 .


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Yeah, my first time playing after installing Natural Bodies I had taken Dairren in bed with me, so apparently he died happy... I take it as a compliment to my character's talents, but it still clued me in that it was time to tone things down. XD

I use Natural Bodies w/ DAO Modmanager, like ejoslin. Realistic Bodies also has a much larger variety of figures and is made to work with Natural Bodies.

Now, if you use Better Sex Cutscenes, you'll find yourself in a pickle about which male version to use, since those show more. But for people like me who are fine with the vanilla cutscenes, it works fine.

That said, there is a mod in the works here that seems like it might solve these problems? We'll have to wait and see once it's released...

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I actually don't like the Better Sex Cutscenes (I know, sacrilege). I know there's a smiling Zev in one of those, but he looks ill, I think. Really, though, if I wanted to watch porn, I'd watch porn -- *grin* ok, I only looked at a spicy one, maybe the milds are not so . ..  ummm  . . . so.  I think the tent scenes in the vanilla game are enough to show an intimacy, which works for me.

All that said, I have to say again that I do like the smiles in the dwarf scene of the vanilla game.  Dwarves deserve SOMETHING special!

Edit: yes, I did.  

Modifié par ejoslin, 12 février 2010 - 11:09 .


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ejoslin wrote...

I actually don't like the Better Sex Cutscenes (I know, sacrilege). I know there's a smiling Zev in one of those, but he looks ill, I think. Really, though, if I wanted to watch porn, I'd watch porn -- *grin* ok, I only looked at a spicy one, maybe the milds are not so . ..  ummm  . . . so.  I think the tent scenes in the vanilla game are enough to show an intimacy, which works for me.


I don't like them either. I've now seen my character make some of the most hideous faces imaginable (and this is supposed to be good sex???), plus they look robotic. I tried both the zesty and the mild (hey, I really tried to give the mod a chance), but the mild isn't much better. You lose the intimate facial expressions from the original (which, I'll be honest, I like a lot) in favor of a little more emotionless action down below. Like you said, if I wanted porn I'd watch porn. I'm not that desperate for pixel love. :whistle:

(I'm not saying BSC isn't a great mod- it is. It's just not for me, but there are obviously a lot of people who like it. I'm just glad it's completely optional.)

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Nonvita wrote...

Yeah, my first time playing after installing Natural Bodies I had taken Dairren in bed with me, so apparently he died happy... I take it as a compliment to my character's talents, but it still clued me in that it was time to tone things down. XD

Fortunately, I wasn't actually taking a sip of tea when I read this.  :lol:

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Creature 1 wrote...

Nonvita wrote...

Yeah, my first time playing after installing Natural Bodies I had taken Dairren in bed with me, so apparently he died happy... I take it as a compliment to my character's talents, but it still clued me in that it was time to tone things down. XD

Fortunately, I wasn't actually taking a sip of tea when I read this.  :lol:


I'm suddenly glad I can't do mods on the 360.

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All that said, I have to say again that I do like the smiles in the dwarf scene of the vanilla game. Dwarves deserve SOMETHING special!


correction Females Dwarves you mean

he doesnt smile during the male dwarf sex scenes(the male dwarf does smile however) although he does look like hes enjoying himself

like I said earlier male dwarves get jipped badly (expecially during the normal kiss) you female dwarves got spoiled :(

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 12 février 2010 - 11:36 .


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Cuddlezarro wrote...

All that said, I have to say again that I do like the smiles in the dwarf scene of the vanilla game. Dwarves deserve SOMETHING special!


correction Females Dwarves you mean

he doesnt smile during the male dwarf sex scenes(the male dwarf does smile however) although he does look like hes enjoying himself


Hmmmm, I wonder if the scenes are the same then, just with the models reversed.  Off to youtube I go!

Edit: Nope, not at all.  The Zev/femdwarf is much sweeter, sexier, more tender, and more smiles!  FemDwarves win in the Zevran tent scenes.  And since there are none on youtube that I see, most won't ever see it :(

Second edit: I mean, of all the tent scenes, not just dwarf ones.  It's actually pretty funny that the best one is also the character type that will be least played.

Modifié par ejoslin, 13 février 2010 - 12:16 .


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double post~

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 13 février 2010 - 12:00 .


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ejoslin wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

All that said, I have to say again that I do like the smiles in the dwarf scene of the vanilla game. Dwarves deserve SOMETHING special!


correction Females Dwarves you mean

he doesnt smile during the male dwarf sex scenes(the male dwarf does smile however) although he does look like hes enjoying himself


Hmmmm, I wonder if the scenes are the same then, just with the models reversed.  Off to youtube I go!

Edit: Nope, not at all.  The Zev/femdwarf is much sweeter, sexier, more tender, and more smiles!  FemDwarves win in the Zevran tent scenes.  And since there are none on youtube that I see, most won't ever see it :(



there is one thing male dwarf(nobles) have over the females in the zevran romance department ~ we have a child

can you imagine how adorable it would be to see Zev playing with the prince of Orzammar and driving his mother up the wall by teaching him stuff he really shouldent :3

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um.... male dwarves have a child with Zevran. That's gotta be interesting :P

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yeah I was using the "zesty" mod this time...and I think I also prefer the vanilla for this game. Vanilla without the silly underwear is gonna be my way from now on.

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Raiynsong wrote...

um.... male dwarves have a child with Zevran. That's gotta be interesting :P


Step-child.  You get to knock up a Casteless as a dwarven noble male.

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Sialater wrote...

Raiynsong wrote...

um.... male dwarves have a child with Zevran. That's gotta be interesting :P


Step-child.  You get to knock up a Casteless as a dwarven noble male.


But you can have a dwarf child with Zevran if female. God (ergo Gaider) bless those adaptive genes!

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ok good. I eliminated the erections... that's not what I normally WANT to do on a Friday night but .....





heh anyway, thanks for all the good tips here. Now, back to Zev . I ended up with Alistair this time (finished my HNF warrior) but Zev decided to stick around. I'm a thinking we might try for that heir Alistair is on about :P


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Herr Uhl wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Raiynsong wrote...

um.... male dwarves have a child with Zevran. That's gotta be interesting :P


Step-child.  You get to knock up a Casteless as a dwarven noble male.


But you can have a dwarf child with Zevran if female. God (ergo Gaider) bless those adaptive genes!


Low dwarven fertility rate+Grey Warden taint making it even harder to have kids...I dont see female dwarves getting preggers unless there stupidly lucky

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Low dwarven fertility rate?

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ok good. I eliminated the erections... that's not what I normally WANT to do on a Friday night but .....

You know how when you come into a room and you only hear the tail end of a conversation, and sometimes the bizarre end of it too...  LOL

Well, on the way home from work I heard a cheesy 80s love song (Heaven on Earth by Belinda Carlisle, if you must know) and it got me thinking about my elf mage and how I really don't want to mess her up with an Alistair interlude before she gets to Zevran.  In fact, I am considering that Zevran might end up being her first.  I know that the Tower is not presented in monastic terms, if you believe Wynne's banter, and a pretty elven lass would probably not want for invitations.  But let's say that before she went to the Tower (or even after, extrapolating from some things Fiona says), she encountered the darker side of human men's fascination with pretty elven women.  Maybe it's even how her magic was discovered, if, say, some would-be molester got a fireball in the nethers.

So, my question to the esteemed panel is:  How would Zevran react to learning that his Warden love not only has never loved anyone before, but is also a virgin?  This might be a scenario where I would actually have her hold out on tenting until after Taliesin... not sure about that.  Just would like to try something different, and if she is inhibited it would fit.

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Sialater wrote...

Low dwarven fertility rate?


It's why they are a dying specie. They have a low birth-rate.

Edit: That and the darkspawn.

Modifié par Herr Uhl, 13 février 2010 - 04:02 .